well, i am from kbin and the people i have migrated are also on kbin, there has never been any confusion, it's made migration really easy. i have been told lemmy has intimidated and put off migrants by those migrants themselves. i think initially people should start on kbin, they will grow a natural understanding about federation and the fediverse, and from there they can choose if lemmy or others suits them more as a platform.
If i had to guess, one single platform is something people new to federation can easily understand. What happens behind the scenes is nothing the average user needs to know or should even notice. Time will change that understanding, this is just the beginning and there should not be a rush because that will scare people away.
I really wish there were more viable alternatives to Youtube, but since so many peoples' livelihoods rely on having the largest audience possible, they're pretty much forced to use YouTube.
Shit like this is why I switched to a third party app a while ago. I used to have the official app on my phone because iOS and everything I remembered seeing as far as 3PAs went was all for Android before I heard of Apollo. But the fact that I was seeing “posts” like this every three-or-so posts, and the fact that they were all over the comments as well was just way too much.
It’s exactly why I will not go back. I have like three niche subreddits saved that have no real equivalent in the Fediverse and I’ll only check in on occasion. Through Old.Reddit. With a browser that has an ad blocker built in.
Trying to get redditors from r/NCD over here. I will say it has taken me an hour to understand somewhat how to create an account and get into a community that I wanted into. I still do not understand 90% of what lemmy is
It's so confusing because web2 is evolving into web3 and we are the pioneers. If you're on one you're basically on all of the fediverse, mastodon/pixelated/kbin/Lemmy/peertube and makertube is even newer. Just remember don't click stupid links and do ask stupid questions, someone else probably needs to know too.
There are several levels to this. First, the actual software. In the Fediverse (simply the agglomeration of software that can interact through a common protocol called Activitypub) there are several solutions that offer a Reddit like experience. Kbin and Lemmy are the ones we focus on for now. Its different software with similar goals that can interact with each other.
Now, the second level is the actual server (also called instance). There is no central Kbin or Lemmy server (although the instances that are run by the developers tend to basically become that). Instead there are a lot of servers (e.g beehaw, feddit.de, lemmy.world) that run either Lemmy or Kbin. These servers can interact with each other, because their software can, this is called federation.
This brings us to the third level, the users, you and me. I have an account on Kbin.social, because thats where i went to sign up. Kbin.social runs Kbin, so I use Kbin. Same for you. Bread2390 has a sh.itjust.works account, which runs Lemmy, as far as i know. So they are on a different server (instance) with a different software (lemmy) but we can interact just fine because of federation.
Now, all of this sounds complicated and kinda is, but in your interaction you didnt even notice that they are on a different server running different software. But if kbin.social went down, or tge software kbin would somehow turn to shit, bread2390's account would keep working just fine.
It wouldn't surprise me if the popularity was artificially inflated. Social media has known for a while now that encouraging outrage drives views and clicks. Coupled with Reddit using bots when it was first up to artificially populate the site, there has probably always been some bullshittery going on, it's just become more obvious now. I unsubbed to subs like r/facepalm and all the other rage generating subs because they were having a detrimental effect on my mental health and because it was obvious they were encouraging and driving outrage for clicks.
so true it’s awful you can’t tell posts from ads from what your subscribed too. all for what. I started using reddit with Apollo and it has to be the best app that I’ve chose/chosen to use(probably very close to a human guide lines compliment app too so many options and tweaks). to lose it over money grab ego bolstering is just the nail in the coffin for reddit to me. to think it used to be this place to be exposed to new ideas and topics anf by the way if you have any technical, personal, or financial question you can find some good literal information with a little effort for that too. just a shame our societies fr profit mentality.
I was thinking about asking them what alternatives they tried, but in the end decided it was not worth the effort.
It was either an AI, or I already knew the answer.
It's a common attitude, not just with reddit or phone apps, but just things in general. "I don't have a problem with it, so why would anyone else?"
I remember when Arkham Knight came out, and it was a complete mess on PC. But it worked for enough people that anyone who talked about what a shitty port it was got shouted down.
A common problem I have with layouts, where there's a common trend of leaving giant swathes of white space on either side of the content (in desktop aspect ratios, at least). Like with the new redesign of wikipedia, or even most fediverse sites. But many (if not most) people don't really have a problem with it. I've even heard people talk about "having to move their head back and forth" to see content on the website. As though they're incapable of moving their eyes in their sockets...
But that's my own personal rant. In general, people are often hard-pressed to empathize with others these days. Not just in their use of social applications, but of most things in their lives.
Newspapers use every ounce of space they can, they don't leave giant swathes of it bare. It's not like there's extra articles sitting along the side of the page... it's just blank.
In fact, there's often more white space on the sides of novel pages, depending on how they're printed.
I feel your rant, I really do.
You have no idea how disappointed I was after the Wikipedia redesign until I found the full width button in the bottom corner.
Most sites are optimized for mobile and are completely asinine looking on a monitor.
Especially text heavy sites where even a single sentence is broken into 2 or more lines, meanwhile 70% of the screen is empty.
And it's not like it's hard to implement a button like Wikipedia did, web designers just don't give a crap.
I payed for a full monitor, let me use the full monitor!
I didn't know about the button at the bottom, I ended up going into the settings and changing the theme back to the previous one.
I do like the more dynamic index, I may have to check that out. I'm not entirely opposed to new designs (much as I might bitch about change), it just gets frustrating when things are designed for a specific subset of people with no options to tailor your own experience.
I actually only ever used the official Reddit app. I wasn't really aware of 3rd party apps before all this API stuff kicked off. (I'm genuinely not an AI!)
It is full of 'promoted' posts and presumably the other apps were better but that ship has sailed. But maybe people are saying they're happy with the official app because like me they were uneducated about the alternatives on offer and they're just used to it now.
I'd often see posts complaining about the default app, mostly about how the video player never worked or how things took forever to load.
Most people in the comments seemed to assume there was just no possible alternative. I was happy to extoll the virtues of 3rd party apps, though I doubt I had much of an audience.
Good riddance to askreddit. Page after page of “what tv show should be brought back?” with every top comment being Firefly, as if the people answering have no idea there was a movie that killed off half of the characters.
the same way api protestersreddit thinks they are entitled to having reddit bend to their willapi protesters give them free money for nothing after taking away the apps that make reddit bearable
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