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pocketman_stuck, in Lemmy Developer AMA and Dev Update, 2024-01-26, 1500 CEDT

People, avoid to ask repeated questions and keeping it one question per comment is generally better.

dessalines,

Yes thank you. Sometimes it feels a bit overwhelming when there are 10+ questions in a single comment, and each of them requires a little essay.

Die4Ever,

also people should search the issues on github, a few of these questions already have issues filed with discussions in them, put a thumbs up on a github issue if it’s something you want

syd, (edited ) in Lemmy Developer AMA and Dev Update, 2024-01-26, 1500 CEDT
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  • dessalines,

    Sure

    nutomic,
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    No problem, thats why its called AMA. Of course its possible that your questions wont get answered.

    Blaze, in Lemmy Developer AMA and Dev Update, 2024-01-26, 1500 CEDT
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    Looking forward to it. Hopefully people will stay respectful.

    Blaze, (edited ) in Lemmy Security Advisory for Versions < `0.19.1`: Private message details leak.
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    Isn’t that dangerous to discose the bug while the largest version is still 18.5 ? fedidb.org/software/lemmy/versions

    gregorum,

    why haven’t they upgraded yet?

    Blaze,
    @Blaze@discuss.online avatar

    19.0 and 19.1 broke federation.

    19.2 restored federation.

    19.3, released this week, fixed an authentication issue.

    Seems you are either non-functional or insecure

    gregorum,

    oy. ok

    dessalines, (edited )

    Those didn’t completely break federation, they just had some issues with a few services besides lemmy. They’re addressed now, but federation compatibility will always be an ongoing task as new services get added and existing ones change their activitypub responses.

    Blaze,
    @Blaze@discuss.online avatar

    Happy to be past that indeed

    syd, (edited )
    @syd@lemy.lol avatar

    0.18.6 would make sense TBH.

    dessalines,

    Timing on publishing these is tricky. We let most server runners know about this ~a month ago now, and we’re now 2 versions past the bug.

    Blaze,
    @Blaze@discuss.online avatar

    Interesting, thanks, I didn’t know you communicated this to the admins before

    Zagorath,
    @Zagorath@aussie.zone avatar

    As far as I’m aware the most widely-accepted standard for responsible disclosure is 90 days. This is a little different, since that’s normally between businesses and includes the time needed to develop a solution; it’s not typically aimed at federated or self-hosted applications rolling out an already-created patch. On the one hand, granting them that extra time to upgrade seems reasonable. On the other, wouldn’t anyone wanting to exploit a vulnerability be able to reverse-engineer it pretty easily by reading the git history?

    I dunno where I land on this, tbh.

    example,

    The 90 days disclosure you’re referencing, which I believe is primarily popularized by Google’s Project Zero process, is the time from when someone discovers and reports a vulnerability to the time it will be published by the reporter if there is no disclosure by the vendor by then.

    The disclosure by the vendor to their users (people running Lemmy instances in this case) is a completely separate topic, and, depending on the context, tends to happen quite differently from vendor to vendor.

    As an example, GitLab publishes security advisories the day the fixed version is released, e.g. …gitlab.com/…/critical-security-release-gitlab-16….
    Some vendors will choose to release a new version, wait a few weeks or so, then publish a security advisory about issues addressed in the previous release. One company I’ve frequently seen this with is Atlassian. This is also what happened with Lemmy in this case.

    As Lemmy is an open source project, anyone could go and review all commits for potential security impact and to determine whether something may be exploitable. This would similarly apply to any other open source project, regardless of whether the commit is pushed some time between releases or just before a release. If someone is determined enough and spends time on this they’ll be able to find vulnerabilities in various projects before an advisory is published.

    The “responsible” alternative for this would have been to publish an advisory at the time it was previously privately disclosed to admins of larger instances, which was right around the christmas holidays, when many people would already be preoccupied with other things in their life.

    aniki, in Lemmy Release v0.19.3 - A Few Bugfixes

    All the love, fam!! <3

    Blaze, in Lemmy Release v0.19.3 - A Few Bugfixes
    @Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

    41 servers updated already: fedidb.org/software/lemmy/versions

    dessalines,

    👀 that was fast.

    Blaze, in Lemmy Release v0.19.3 - A Few Bugfixes
    @Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

    Thank you so much!

    1984, in Lemmy Release v0.19.3 - A Few Bugfixes
    @1984@lemmy.today avatar

    Thanks guys!

    0.19.2 fixed federation so it was the best release, but this is fine too. :)

    bugsmith, (edited ) in Lemmy Release v0.19.3 - A Few Bugfixes

    Perhaps not major, but I’d just like shout out my PR which was merged in this release:
    github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy-ui/pull/2322

    It adds another view to Registration Applications to show only denied applications, helpful for identifying spam applications and rule circumventers. I know a few people have been asking for something similar to this.

    dessalines,

    Thx for this one!

    Blaze,
    @Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

    Thank you!

    troyunrau, in Lemmy Release v0.19.3 - A Few Bugfixes
    @troyunrau@lemmy.ca avatar

    Excellent work folks. Bug fixing is not sexy (even more so in open source projects), but greatly appreciated 👍

    Oha, (edited ) in Lemmy Release v0.19.3 - A Few Bugfixes

    thank you for your work

    eskuero, in Lemmy Release v0.19.3 - A Few Bugfixes
    @eskuero@lemmy.fromshado.ws avatar

    ty for your work

    SorteKanin, in Lemmy Development Update: 2024-01-12
    @SorteKanin@feddit.dk avatar

    Thanks to everyone for all the work!

    lud, in Lemmy v0.19.2 Release - More federation fixes

    I have a feeling the vote thing will be abused.

    PoliticalAgitator,

    Well, the “not seeing votes” definitely is, on both Lemmy and Reddit. All this does is make that abuse observable.

    dessalines, (edited )

    Lemmy is one of the few ones platforms that attempts to preserve vote and mod action privacy, to prevent harassment, and encourage ppl to vote honestly. Several other platforms just let any user see who voted, which isn’t the best idea since it’s been shown that ppl are less likely to be honest if they know that their votes are public.

    The main reason I added it for admins, is bc a lot of ppl have been understandably upset by downvote-stalkers, or those who downvote with multiple accounts.

    Like anything, there’s the possibility for abuse, but at least by limiting it to admins only, we can prevent a lot of potential harassment that other platforms are currently allowing.

    bilb,
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    Admins had the ability to see the votes if they really wanted to anyway by looking at the database, you just made it a lot easier.

    Zagorath, in Lemmy v0.19.2 Release - More federation fixes
    @Zagorath@aussie.zone avatar

    I can’t speak for others, but I still seem to be experiencing issues with federation. I’ve got a comment in here that isn’t showing up on other instances.

    Dave,
    @Dave@lemmy.nz avatar

    Today I can say I can see the comment on my instance. Quite possibly it took some time for federation to catch up after being broken for a while.

    Zagorath,
    @Zagorath@aussie.zone avatar

    Yeah that’s my theory. I think the workers were busy catching up on the whole backlog of all the comments and posts that had built up over the ~3 week period it wasn’t working.

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