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leosa, in Why does Lemmy feel so fresh compared to Reddit?

For me the vibe here resembles that of hacker news. So I’m inclined to think the population here is early adopters and technically inclined.

joshuaacasey, in Why don't we use PeerTube to host the videos for Lemmy/kbin?
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it's not a bad idea. it does the following things that I can think of:

  1. (as someone else mentioned) gives more content to another platform of the fediverse.
  2. doesn't overwhelm lemmy/kbin instance runners with the needs of hosting video when they intend on hosting a software/platform that is mostly intended for text.
monobot, in How do pre-reddit influx lemmy members feel?

I, personally, would prefer slower linear and more organic growth. I want people to be here because the want to come, not because they want to run away from somewhere else.

But I do acknowledge that there was not much discussion going on and was not enough content for my procrastinating habits, nor I could keep myself informed in current events.

Thou I have had lemmy.ml account for three years now I never heard of beehaw before this reddit wave started, so that might be on me.

While I am positive overall, I do not like that some bad habits from reddit are resurfacing here, mostly not being able to have different opinion without someone insulting you.

I hope there will be enough instances where discussion and difference in opinion will be nurtured and welcome.

coldv,

I did run away from Reddit but I also want to be here because I have been a firm believer in the Fediverse. It is bringing net neutrality back. I'm here to stay!

MHcharLEE,

While I am positive overall, I do not like that some bad habits from reddit are resurfacing here, mostly not being able to have different opinion without someone insulting you.

This is humans were talking about. Humans on the internet. This is inevitable and I wouldn't specifically attribute this to former reddit users. You have this on Twitter, you have this on Instagram. The "my opinion is the only correct opinion" sentiment is prevalent everywhere today. Sadly.

minorninth,

Also: this is community-specific.

Many subreddits were fantastic about not tolerating insults or disrespect.

I expect the same here - some Fediverse communities will be a free-for-all with insults, some will be a welcoming place for people to disagree without getting insulted.

It's not anyone's goal to impose one set of rules of decorum for the entire Fediverse.

phil299,

I guess that is well worth keeping in mind , coming from the cesspool that is reddit everything seems so polite here by comparison.

gk99,

I have noticed this as well. I've made a few excursions back to reddit since it keeps loading old comments I haven't yet mass-deleted to my profile page, and on the two trips where I didn't immediately close the browser afterwards, both times I clicked on a thread and immediately saw some inflammatory bait, got a little annoyed, and then remembered "wait, I don't browse this shithole anymore" and came on back.

I'm not perfect, not even close, but I'm definitely trying to check how I say things while I'm here because I want it to stay this was for as long as possible.

mourkeer,

I have a pet peeve around people saying "this." When they agree with someone. Idk why... I was hoping I wouldn't see that here but unfortunately it's cropping up.

My concern is that and a bunch of other reddit-isms flood the site. I don't mind redditors coming here but I hope the site can still have its own identity.

There are a few others:

  • "at least the is ok" on videos where someone gets hurt
  • "no shoes therefore dead"
  • "some ninja is cutting onions"
  • "sir this is a Wendy's"
  • Etc.

I mean this reddit post complaining about annoying phrases came out 9 years ago. 9 YEARS. And since then I continue to see so many of those and others.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/1i5cd2/_/

I don't want to gatekeep either. But certain phrases repeated over and over is just so irritating.

MacroCyclo,

This.

bobs_monkey,

Just couldn't help yourself, eh? Lol

Ducky,

That kind of stuff irks me a bit as well, but I think it's human nature. It's a form of call-and-response where people can show that they're apart of the community. Friendships are built on shared experiences, and those kinds of memes are instant shared experiences that are being used to build camaraderie. I think the reason it is annoying to users like us is because it feels watered down, like a free ticket in, instead of becoming a part of the community organically. I get both sides, so I don't actively try to stop people from doing it, I just ignore it.

snorkbubs,
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I've seen the low-effort meme comments as well; I hated them on Reddit, and I hate them here. This topic had come up on Reddit many times over the years, and there's not really a way to combat it, from what I could tell. People with nothing to say still want to participate (e.g. earn fake internet points), and that seems to be a favored way do it.

Entomology subs like /r/whatsthisbug had a hard rule against comments like "kill it with fire", "nope", and "nuke it from orbit". It was explained in the sidebar, mods would actively remove the comments, and people would downvote them, but it barely made a dent. Scroll to the bottom of a post and you'd see the same stupid "joke" repeated over and over, verbatim.

These people don't even look at the other comments, they just drop their canned catchphrase and leave. This is why I like that we have to scroll to the bottom to comment here; at least the numpties have to put in slightly more effort, and hopefully they notice the comment has already been made 30 times. Ah, who am I kidding? Seeing the same comment probably reinforces their desire to post it.

The entire issue is lame as frig, wish there was a way to stop it. I know I'd be a bad moderator, because I'd just ban them.

oshitwaddup, in How do pre-reddit influx lemmy members feel?
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I'm happy there's enough content on here to make it worth checking lemmy now

kabukimeow, in Have you already encountered those new bots on Lemmy?
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I haven't seen any bots except some that post news articles

May, in Why does Lemmy feel so fresh compared to Reddit?
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There are less reposts bc its newer and bc there is a lot less bots

maggoats, in Have you already encountered those new bots on Lemmy?

Nah, I think they're just being mass-created. No one's actually spamming anything so far. You can see so on this directory of instances: https://the-federation.info/platform/73

If you scroll around you'll find some that have like 10k or 20k users and 11 posts at most.

eighty,

Wish there was an in-built feature to block entire instances just for this case. Some of them have 30k users with only 10 active users.

average650, in Have you already encountered those new bots on Lemmy?
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I haven't seen any posts or comments that are obviously bots, except for useful ones that make it clear what they're doing.

I think they're just making accounts, not using them yet.

rm_dash_r_star,
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I haven't seen anything yet either. I think they're lining up for the assault.

Barbarian, in More about being a mod?
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This is also my first time being a mod, but for a small community, doesn't seem so bad so far. Take this advice with a huge grain of salt, I'm also a newbie:

  1. Be a mod for a topic you actually care about and can contribute to
  2. Delete any comments/posts that break the rules on your community

That's... kind of it? I haven't actually had to delete anything on my community yet, but it is tiny, so that's probably a factor.

random72guy, in Why does Lemmy feel so fresh compared to Reddit?
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Passion. The people here care enough to have not only left Reddit, but to have made a new community here.

original_reader,

I love this comment. I want to believe it to be true.

Iron_Lynx, in What is Kbin?

It looks to be another federated instance that seems to be compatible with other Lemmy instances.

_tinker_, in Have you already encountered those new bots on Lemmy?
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CW: Homphobia. I've only seen one thread attacked by a bot so far. It repeatedly posted a loooong homophobic comment pretending to be a thoughtful and objective analysis of why gay men have lower life expectancy due to being "sExuaL" and apparently "DiSeAsEd". It posted the same comment multiple times in the thread and responded to multiple comments including its own with the same comment over and over again. Not super jazzed to see that crap here, hoping we can avoid a botpocalypse on the Fediverse.

_tinker_,
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I had to remember where I blocked that "user", it was over on my Kbin account. Here is the user if anyone wants to preview them and preemptively block them: https://kbin.social/u/dickusmungus/comments

PerfectParanoia,

Hey thanks for the link. That is a sad account.

_tinker_,
@_tinker_@lemmy.world avatar

No problem! I went back and looked through the comments and posts again and now I'm uncertain if it is actually a bot or just a really sick person acting like one. Either way, I've blocked them. I was on a thread about cookies missing chocolate chips of all places for that nonsense to show up.

PerfectParanoia,

It actually seems like a person when I looked but still the behaviour seems worthy of a block just to avoid that first 5 seconds of confusion if you stuble upon a comment.

zyratoxx,
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Oof. Yeah, I hope that too.

pennomi,

Downvoting bot spam actually does help. Good UX should hide unconstructive comments anyway. Will there be trash? Yes, but it's more or less under control on Reddit because of user voting effects.

The real danger is in letting bots vote more than letting them comment or post. We're safe as long as humans can outvote the bots... but will that status quo continue? That’s our biggest existential risk.

unix_joe, in Why does Lemmy feel so fresh compared to Reddit?
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There aren't any bots here promoting a narrative, or auto-downvoting people. From around 2015 until its final days, Reddit was manipulated by business and political entities to steer groupthink. Turning off reddit unplugs you from the Matrix, so to speak.

On Lemmy specifically: its a higher barrier to entry, there's less karma chasing here. Especially if you aren't on one of the larger Lemmy instances. It feels like a community and not like karma-whoring. In my preferences, I turned off viewing the number of votes a comment has, which is nice.

smuuthbrane, in Weird Issue - Auto Scrolling to the top
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Are you browsing "new" on "all" on desktop? That's a known bug. But otherwise, first I've heard of that.

CIWS-30, in Why does Lemmy feel so fresh compared to Reddit?

Other people have made good points, but one I've noticed is that there's no advertising or profit motive (so far) and there's also no leadership that encourages dark patterns like increasing negative engagement through encouraging stuff like doomscrolling or starting or continuing arguments.

I'm on Kbin, and I like how by default all the notifications are turned off. So people aren't automatically told to respond to every little thing they participate in. If they really care, they have to manually go back on check on things they wrote about or were engaged in. Makes it less likely that people will argue endlessly, lowering the quality of posts and replies, and derailing them with long subthreads of off topic discussions or arguments.

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