What's the point of buying new phones every years?

Other than your carrier give it for free or cheap, I don’t really see the reason why should you buy new phone. I’ve been using Redmi Note 9 for past 3 years and recently got my had on Poco F5. I don’t see the point of my ‘upgrade’. I sold it and come back to my Note 9. Gaming? Most of them are p2w or microtransaction garbage or just gimped version of its PC/Console counterpart. I mean, $400 still get you PS4, TV and Switch if you don’t mind buying used. At least here where I live. Storage? Dude, newer phone wont even let you have SD Card. Features? Well, all I see is newer phones take more features than it adds. Headphone jack, more ads, and repairability are to name a few. Battery? Just replace them. However, my Note 9 still get through day with one 80% charge in the dawn. Which takes 1 hour.

I am genuinely curious why newer phone always selling like hot cakes. Since there’s virtually no difference between 4gb of RAM and 12gb of RAM, or 12mp camera and 100mp camera on phone.

Geth,

I changed from a OnePlus 6t to a Samsung S23+ after about 4 years of using the old one and at least for me the difference is huge. Both are flagships in their own time. The oneplus was starting to feel a bit laggy here and there, but I never expected the S23+ to be all around so snappy in comparison. Camera quality is leagues ahead. The battery life is way better. The fingerprint sensor was never good on the oneplus, but it’s amazing on the Samsung. There are many other features I like or find useful like the wireless charging or the water resistance. The new phone is an all around better package for me and a surprisingly decent upgrade.

You definitely don’t need to upgrade every 2 years and it probably matters what you expect out of a phone and how patient you are with the issues, but I think new phones do still offer compelling reasons to upgrade, just not as often as in the past.

xlfonsx,

My 4 year old iPhone XR is holding strong, so im gonna keep it a couple of years more!

bootyberrypancakes,
@bootyberrypancakes@lemmywinks.xyz avatar

iPhone XR gang woo! Mine still works perfectly fine but I’m worried that iOS 17 is gonna be the last version for the XR :(

pavnilschanda,
@pavnilschanda@lemmy.world avatar

iPhones tend to last a long time for some reason. They can last up to 7 years.

jack55555,

My XR that I bought on launch was still going strong in its third year, until I dropped it in a lake. Only 20 cm deep, for 3 seconds, but it was enough to kill the screen :( I would probably still have it if that didn’t happen.

BurnedDonutHole,

I don’t. I usually buy something good (hardware wise) and use it until it dies. Repeat the process.

nei7jc,
@nei7jc@lemmy.world avatar

You do it to give Samsung or Motorola or Google or apple or Amazon your money every year, obviously

TimeMuncher2,

There's a lot of reasons. Single people can spend a lot on tech without thinking. People have lot of money. People don't like their current phone. I say let them spend and keep the companies in business. If all of us stopped buying phones every year and only bought once in 4-5 years, the companies producing phones will have to shut down sooner or later and we'd have just one or two left. I only upgraded recently after 6 years because the phone OS was too old and the cpu was like snail.

j41UkP0ykQhE,

Lack of memory card slot is a big deal for me. I get the cloud usage and all, but what about having a local copy? Space fills up really fast with a few videos and photos. I don't want to have to manage my storage painfully every month or so.

Also I prefer compact phones which are basically non-existent these days.

FredOnline,
@FredOnline@kbin.social avatar

As mentioned by others, security updates and the camera. If the right 'phone comes along at the right price, then is when I'll consider doing the upgrade. Upgrading when the latest greatest 'phone is released is something I would never consider.

ImFresh3x,

I like new cameras, higher refresh rates, and super fast page loads.

Selling my phone on Craigslist every year and buying new is about the same price as buying new every few years.

$1500 phone. 3 years. $500 per year.

$1500 phone. Sell for $900-$1000 at one year old. Buy new phone for $1500. $500-600 per year. And I have a always warranty (extended by my credit card).

Similar price per year, night and day better product.

Unquote0270,

$500 seems insane to me, I’ve only ever paid about £100 for a phone and it does everything I need it for.

ImFresh3x,

Yeah. Well I use my phone in the same way a professional uses their commercial equipment. And that equipment isn’t cheap. And I love technology. It’s something I personally enjoy. Considering it’s something I use for hours on end every single day, more than any other tool I use in life, and memorializes my life, I have no issue spending $40 a month on it.

Where I live $500 feels nothing. Rent where I live is like $5k per month. Everything is stupid expensive. I’m just numb to it. I am quite frugal in other ways though. My car is 20 years old. I’ll drive it until the wheels fall off. I don’t care about fancy cars at all. And I don’t enjoy “the feel of a new car.”

Unquote0270,

That’s fair enough, I didn’t mean to imply there is anything wrong with it, just that it seems alien to me and my cheapskate ways. I can understand it though, I prefer to use a computer and only really use my phone for browsing but I tend to forget that for some people it’s much more like what I would use a computer for.

Acid,

Yeah that’s a no go mate, I couldn’t even do my job if I had a £100 phone it would end up being a cluster fuck as I need to constantly look at spreadsheets, and multiple email inboxes and work through a web Ui portal and none of that is gonna be a good experience on a phone at that price.

I’ve used enough of those cheap £100 phones be they new or second hand to know for someone who’s actually using their phone to do work they are completely unsuitable.

j4k3,
@j4k3@lemmy.world avatar

Google provides a stripped down base Linux kernel to hardware manufacturers. This kernel works with android and allows the manufacturer to load all the proprietary code needed to support the processor, modem, and hardware peripherals without the manufacturer merging the source code into the mainline Linux kernel. This means the community can never support the hardware in the kernel. As software changes in android, features are added, and vulnerabilities are fixed, the only party that can update the device’s kernel is the manufacturer. This is a criminal scheme to exploit the end user and force them to constantly buy new hardware. Proprietary is always about theft of ownership from the end user. It is a tool for exploitation. It is not about intellectual property or business. These arguments are praying on naïveté. Everything can and is reverse engineered in this hardware and software by every serious competing company. The only reason proprietary exists is criminal exploitation of the end user.

swnt,
@swnt@feddit.de avatar

Aka planned obsolescence

ProdigyXL,

I had my iPhone X for 3 years and would have kept my 12 Pro for 3 years, but the 14 Pros came in purple and I decided to go for it. I fully intend on keeping my 14 Pro for at least 3 years. Maybe even go 4 this time around and just get the battery replaced at the end of year 2. I don’t game on my phone at all, I have lots of other devices for that, so I don’t need the latest and greatest every year.

woobie,

The only time I ever “upgrade” is when I break a phone beyond reasonable repair. If batteries were easier / more cost effective to replace, I would keep this Pixel 4a a few more years. The battery is starting to lose capacity now, I’ll have to check on the cost of battery replacement before too long.

Considering a Fairphone next time I do upgrade.

daddyjones,
@daddyjones@lemmy.world avatar

As someone who is currently using a fairphone 3, I cannot recommend it.

The idea is good, but let down by very cheap hardware. The fact is that, when you get the phone brand new, it’s already a very low end phone. Still having it 3 years later just means that it’ll be even worse. The fact that you can repair/replace most of it (but not upgrade) doesn’t change that fact.

I have been so disappointed with the experience on mine and would’ve replaced it ages ago if I could afford to.

Have to say, though, security updates are good.

Yoz,

Same. My next phone will be fairphone.

hydro033,

Batteries are cheap to replace.

amir_s89,
@amir_s89@lemmy.ml avatar

An important change is happening in many industries/ markets. To make devices easy to repair & enable OS updates many more years for long term use.

GoOnASteamTrain,

I totally agree :) I’m S10 until the thing melts, I managed to replace the battery under warranty and plan to rock it as long as humanly possible.

Headphone jack is a huge factor in that as I would not want to lose something I use every day, but also like you say, performance is fine! On top of that is the fact that I’m paying £8 a month for unlimited everything without a contract! :)

I guess there used to be a night and day change, and people kind of still expect that from the next flagship each time they’re offered an upgrade?

That said, these days the trends tend to steer into things I don’t use much, or improving what’s already good enough - its a good time to be on a budget I guess! :)

Hjulkula,

I’m asking myself the same thing. I grabbed myself the the cheapest phone available at my local electronics store after I dropped my old one in the river 2-3 years ago. I think I payed around 160€ or something and I see no reason to get something new

dystop,
@dystop@lemmy.world avatar

I mean, most of the population isn’t buying a new phone every year, it’s just that there are enough people using phones in general that at any given time there are people buying new models. It’s the same reason why there are people buying cars every year.

I personally use my phones for about 3 years. Sometimes up to 4, but usually year 3-4 is when the battery degradation gets so horribly bad and performance stutters so much that I figure if I’m going to do a full reset and buy a new battery and all that, I might as well get a new phone.

godofpainTR,

Not charging my old phone to 100%, rather to 85% or 90% has helped with battery longevity immensely. After almost 5 years in use, accubattery still shows 80% battery health, and even if that’s not accurate, it still lasts quite a while. The SD625 that phone had was very sluggish though, so in the end I still replaced it

dystop,
@dystop@lemmy.world avatar

I used to do that, but it was a chore to keep monitoring my battery life. I wish there were a “charge phone to 80% and stop” option.

B16_BR0TH3R,

Samsung phones let you restrict the battery percentage to 85 percent. I think Apple does the same now.

normalmighty,

There are apps you can install to manage it for you on android, automatically cutting off charging when a given percentage is reached.

dystop,
@dystop@lemmy.world avatar

…huh, i wish i knew that earlier. I’m gonna search for it now.

Metallibus,

Pretty sure this is root only. Normal apps don’t have access to the charge controller and I’ve never seen an app that claims to do this without root.

godofpainTR,

My samsung has the feature built in, but on that old phone I rooted and installed Advanced Charge Controller. (Not feasible for most people i know)

Metallibus,

I don’t know why Google hasn’t put this feature directly into Android. It’s honestly one of the biggest pushes away from Pixel devices for me and it’s absolutely silly.

shapesandstuff,

See thats where im with OP.

Lots of people do switch every 1-2 years.

And swapping a battery costs idk 40€ and an afternoon, full reset costs nothing and takes 20 minutes. Why would i generate that much trash and spend a thousand bucks on the latest shit thats 99% the same instead?

Guildo,

Capitalism and Marketing, bro.

shapesandstuff,

I know, thats why it’s so annoying.
Just two more reasons not to do it.
I had a oneplus 2 since 2015 or so until upgrading to a 9 Pro in 2021.
Several important apps had locked me out and battery life slowly became a noticable problem. I would’ve been fine for another 3-5 years if the lineage image had still supplied android security updates.

xavier666,

The only reason I had to replace my OP3 was because the buttons and screen broke down after 6 years. Battery was max 1 day but it worked for me.

shapesandstuff,

Yeah everyone I know charges their phone over night every day anyway.

Comptero,

I had a 4 year old phone that I had to charge twice a day. I figuered I switch the battery with an official branded replacement which had costed around 100€. The difference between the old and new battery were unnoticable and I still had to charge the phone twice a day.

normalmighty,

IPhone maybe? I know they restrict your battery capacity with software as your phone ages, so the short lifespan has nothing to do with the actual condition of the battery. Iirc some other brands do it to, but I don’t know which ones.

luki,

It‘s the other way around. Capacity decreases on its own just through usage. What Apple (and other manufacturers, as you said) does is decrease clock speeds of the CPU and RAM to make degraded batteries last longer. Basically trading performance for battery life. And that feature should deactivate automatically if the device senses a new battery being put in. At least it did with my old iPhone 6S.

shapesandstuff,

tough luck. Sounds like it was straining to keep up with background apps / OS updates rather than a broken battery.
Guess trouble shooting is half the battle in these cases.

henfredemars,

Perhaps the replacement battery was manufactured a while ago?

M_Reimer,

The only real issue are updates. After just 3 years my previous phone didn’t get any security updates and I had to get new hardware. I actually liked my previous phone more than my current one. But it is how it is.

Nezuh,

I hope I dont jinx myself with this but I dont think security updates at the OS level are that important nowadays.

joelthelion,
@joelthelion@lemmy.world avatar

This is why we need law to mandate security updates for 5+ years.

hunt4peas,

That’s why I installed custom ROM on my Redmi Note 3 and used it for 4.5y until the battery swole.

Jackolantern,

Switch to iPhone. Or pixel. Longer security updates. Guaranteed

XpeeN,

This.

If you have a phone with snapdragon CPU you probably can extend it’s lifespan with custom ROMs that offers security updates. Mine released in 2019, support dropped at android 11, but unofficial LOS with android 13 works great and still updates regularly. No complains here, even the OTA works. Although I do need to flash manually because of root. I don’t see myself upgrade anytime soon.

ulu_mulu,
@ulu_mulu@lemmy.world avatar

That’s the reason why I switched to iPhone after many years of Android, security updates are vital nowadays with all the sensitive data and apps we use on our phones, Apple is the only one that guarantees al least 5 years, iPhones are not too expensive if you don’t buy the latest models and I’d rather avoid supporting companies that don’t understand the importance of security.

TheAnonymouseJoker,
@TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml avatar

You are wrong. Android decouples its updation from “system update” and does not do updaes the way Apple does. Play Store, system apps and third party apps can continue to be updated years after official OEM EOL has been reached. You cannot use App Store or install or update any apps after 5 years of iPhone, but you can install and upgrade apps in an Android 5.0 device (8 years) or Android 7.0 device (6 years) long after EOL has been reached.

Moreover…

https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/10d4f55a-2586-4a29-b8a1-abc9686df859.png

  • Asus has now increased security updates to 4 years for its Zenfone 10.
Pechente,

Yeah exactly. It’s surprising how many people don’t check or care how long their device is being updated. Apple does a great job of supplying their devices with updates long-term.

ulu_mulu,
@ulu_mulu@lemmy.world avatar

True, I bought an ipad more than 7 years ago to read because e-readers are too small for my liking.

I don’t use it much anymore since I have an e-writer now, but it still receives updates regularly, whatever comes to my phone comes to it as well, it’s impressive.

amir_s89,
@amir_s89@lemmy.ml avatar

If you stand there at the store with this year’s iPhone; take the full price divided by how many years you plan to own/ use it. Then you realize it’s actually relatively cheap.

luke,

iPhones have decent residual value as well. You should be able to recoup at least a third of the price after three years, if you look after it.

Ranessin,
@Ranessin@feddit.de avatar

Both Samsung and Google give you 5 years of updates (at least 3 major Android releases + 2 years of Security updates) for a few years now.

ConditionOverload,
@ConditionOverload@lemmy.world avatar

Pixel and Samsung also have 5 years of updates promised. And more phones are giving at least 3 years. I don’t think most people nowadays are hanging onto their 5 year old phones. Most everyone switches phones every 2 or 3 years.

ulu_mulu,
@ulu_mulu@lemmy.world avatar

I’m a fringe case then lol, I keep them until they actually break, they do last 4-5 years for me, sometimes more, I don’t make intense use of my phone, I much prefer using my PC for basically everything.

001100010010, (edited )
@001100010010@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Apple isn’t the only one that guarantees many years of updates. The fairphone (although currently only sold in the EU, they’re coming soon to the USA) has 5 years of promised support, Google Pixel 6 and later also have 5 years of promised updates, Samsung Galaxy, has 4 years, while one year less than its competitors, still much better than the 1-2 years most phones used to have. Android phones these days aren’t like the wild west back then, Android phones are on par with iPhones, the choice is merely personal preference.

ulu_mulu,
@ulu_mulu@lemmy.world avatar

Happy to hear companies are finally getting it.

pineapplelover,

Pixel actually guarantees 5 years now and if you put GrapheneOS on it, then you’ll have one of the most private and secure operating systems available

zkfcfbzr,

You can do even better than five years with Fairphone (…Speaking as a Pixel user)

cyberic,
@cyberic@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

But will Fairphone be around in 5 years?

Ranessin,
@Ranessin@feddit.de avatar

It has been around for 10 years and 4 phones by now, and only gaining in popularity and market share. No reason to predict an early demise yet. The Fairphone 1 controversially only received 3 years of updates, but since then it’s 5 years.

pineapplelover,

Fairphone is also guaranteed only 5 years. If not, then they are probably using a custom ROM that is not directly supported by Google. I’ll keep my eye out for this company though, the repairability is great and I love the repairability of the phone.

zkfcfbzr,

The article I just linked says they’re extending support to 7 years: Out to 2026 for their 2019 model, the Fairphone 3. The article also links to an older article talking about how the Fairphone 2 ended up with 7 years.

I’m in the US so the Fairphone was never really a consideration for me, but if it’s available whenever I need my next phone I’ll definitely look into it. It’s pretty annoying to be using Google’s own phone, and still only have access to 3 years of OS updates.

pineapplelover, (edited )

Interesting. So 7 years for the Fairphone 3 but it seems on their website, for the Fairphone 4, it is only 5 years, they might extend it to 7 years like their previous phones though.

Edit: Apparently Fairphone 4 is coming to the U.S, but with /e/os instead of the fairphone os.

shop.fairphone.com/?ref=header

www.fairphone.com/en/open-source/

arstechnica.com/…/fairphone-is-coming-to-america/

dzervas,

just a side note for graphene: i have the feeling that it’s not for everyone. “too much” security tends to get in the UX way

pineapplelover,

Chances are if you know how to use an Android, using Graphene isn’t too much harder. You can still download from the play store and run apps like normal. If you’re reading this post then you probably have the technical knowhow to plug your phone into the computer and press the start button.

Fair point with not being for everybody though, I wouldn’t be comfortable giving it to my non-techy family and friends. You do have a fair point.

borth,

Out of curiosity, which Pixel phone is a good one to have GrapheneOS installed on to last a long time?

pineapplelover,

The latest Pixel would get the longest update. They follow Google’s support updates which is 5 years from the time it is available for purchase.

grapheneos.org/faq#device-lifetime

TheAnonymouseJoker,
@TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml avatar

Just a reminder that GrapheneOS dev harassed Louis Rossmann of being complicit in his hoax attempted murder, something he has not provided evidence for in over 2 months. He has harassed me, Techlore, FlorisBoard, Bromite, Calyx devs and many countless entities, including subreddits of sheltering, according to him, alleged swatters.

pineapplelover,

I followed this controversy as well. On the GrapheneOS forum, strcat announced he has stepped down to work on himself. The project is running like normal and development is still the same as always.

…grapheneos.org/…/5235-stepping-down-as-project-l…

TheAnonymouseJoker,
@TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml avatar

His announcement is a big hoax for attention seeking purposes. Upon repeated attempts by his non-critic fans, he refused to provide any evidence of swatting. His habit is to maintain silence whenever he is caught lying, and will use as much dead cat strategies as needed to accomplish that.

rtevans,

I’ve been running GrapheneOS on my Pixel 3 for three years and I have few complaints. I still cant figure out how to get automatic updates to work in Android 13 with the Neo or Droidify stores but atleast the stock GOS apps auto update. BTW, to clarify what you said, we have to use the Aurora app to download from Google Play Store.

You’re right it’s not for most people. Not having Google services installed might be a major blow for people who have become accustomed to the conveniences they provide. I just use a separate vanilla Pixel for Google services if I need them, but the phone with my SIM card is the one with GrapheneOS.

pineapplelover,

You can turn Google Services on if you would like. I personally do have it turned on as some of my apps wouldn’t get notifications without it. You could use it as a normal android downloading through the play store and nobody would notice that it’s degoogled. All the apps are sandbox and you can change what permissions that have, I previously used CalyxOS and this is much more private and secure.

rtevans,

Does it send telemetry? Why is CalyxOS more secure?

pineapplelover,

Oh I meant GrapheneOS is more private and secure. Don’t get me wrong, CalyxOS is still much better than stock android

ulu_mulu,
@ulu_mulu@lemmy.world avatar

Well, Google isn’t famous for being reliable in the long run with their services, Apple is proven at this point, tho who knows, I’ll wait a few years and see if Google is still at it with their Pixels.

Metallibus,

Googles already been doing this for years.

Hector_McG, (edited )

I have just done the same.

Although Google are now promising 5 years of support for Pixel phones, Pixel phones are not a core business for Google, and as they have shown many times, Google will end projects at the drop of a hat with no regard for their customers.

There are secondary Android companies like Samsung that promise long term security updates, but are always behind the publishing curve compared to Google. This means that malicious actors have the opportunity to study Google’s published updates to reverse engineer cracks that they then exploit.

The current Android security update model is inherently insecure due to this issue. Until manufacturers are forced to update in a timely manner ( by which I mean simultaneously with Google) I won’t buy another Android phone.

programmer_belch,
@programmer_belch@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

If you are using an android phone, you can change the ROM to one that still gets updates, it’s like changing the os in a computer. The process will delete all of the user data inside the phone but you’ve got nothing to lose if it doesn’t get any security updates.

I recommend lineageOS to anyone wanting to go down this route because of its compatibility with every phone, old or new.

dzervas,

that “security update” quickly gets irrelevant as the exploits for lineage (or any non-standard rom) sells for pennies compared to a stock exploit. also no one’s paying security researchers to assess lineage - also it would be completely impossible with the amount of updates and devices they release

remember that (unfortunately) security is all about money

001100010010,
@001100010010@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

But more people using stock roms could potentially mean any exploit is more easily found compared to custom roms. Not saying that’s the case, but it’s a factor to consider.

dzervas,

as more people use a software it’s not easier to find exploits but much more profitable - and you see that propagate, as in:

  • More people start to use a software
  • Inevitably it gets hacked - by a kid most probably
  • The company starts panicking due to bad press
  • They start fixing the security bugs
  • (some years pass)
  • Now its quite difficult to find exploit as many security bugs have been fixed
  • Exploit prices skyrocket since it would affect many users and it’s difficult to develop
  • Bug bounty skyrockets since the exploits are so pricey

Now the last 2 steps tend to cycle since the security of the product fluctuates

Now the above have nothing to do with “residual” products - such as custom roms. And actually, you have so many deeply specialized people around the main product that finding a bug and developing an exploit on the residual is just a matter of “who the fuck cares”.

So you’re basing your security of your phone on “care”, also known as security through obscurity (some times at least).

Another example of “who cares” security is libreoffice. When I started as a security engineer the veteran (and boss) referred to it as training material to find security bugs. I found some, but who cares? Ain’t nobody gonna pay for them as “nobody” uses the software (keep in mind that we’re referring to millions of daily users rather than thousands per month)

Sorry for sheet! ❤️ Be safe and use a password manager

ILikeMultis,
@ILikeMultis@lemmy.ml avatar

How difficult is it to change ROM?

001100010010,
@001100010010@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

It depends. For Graphene OS, there is a web installer that the people who have used it said it was the easiest custom rom they’ve installed. Unfortunately, it only supports for Google Pixels.

For other custom roms… maybe not as easy…

Graphene OS Web Install: grapheneos.org/install/web

TheAnonymouseJoker,
@TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml avatar

Just a reminder that GrapheneOS dev harassed Louis Rossmann of being complicit in his hoax attempted murder, something he has not provided evidence for in over 2 months. He has harassed me, Techlore, FlorisBoard, Bromite, Calyx devs and many countless entities, including subreddits of sheltering, according to him, alleged swatters.

001100010010,
@001100010010@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Yes that’s true, but I’ve heard from others that the person involved has since stepped down from Graphene OS development, so it should be safe from now on.

TheAnonymouseJoker,
@TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml avatar

There is no clue about him, because he hid behind the veil of his Discourse forum, where any question related to him started being censored shortly after Rossmann exposed him. He could very well be the guy under a new pseudonym alias, considering he has lied every single time about anything, and considering every mod and himself ran multiple sockpuppets to self promote GrapheneOS and witch hunt downvote brigade any critics. He used to have multiple aliases as well, thestinger, strcat, GrapheneOS’ project itself besides his own name, and has a whole witch hunting troll army.

dzervas,

hmmm depends on the phone and what you mean difficult. If you’ve managed to format a computer you’ll be fine. If you’re having trouble downloading chrome or office, maybe think about it again - I’m not saying you shouldn’t try or learn (everybody can learn), Im just saying that it will require an amount of time that I imagine would be uncomfortable to a user that don’t wanna bother downloading a program.

Not all people enjoy computers!

Latecoere,
@Latecoere@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Lineage isn’t compatible with every phone. My shitty realme has no images there. It always depends on if there’s someone willing to actually make images for specific phones.

Lesson here is to never buy a realme.

CAPSLOCKFTW,

Hey there! Have you checked xda for unofficial ports or other ROMs? Might still be better than vanilla

Latecoere,
@Latecoere@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I haven’t checked that place out for a while. Looks like there’s a small handful of other roms people have ported to my model so I’ll give them a look over. Might be able to extend the life of this thing for a bit longer. Cheers!

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