Anyone else missing posts in smaller Lemmy communities because they are overshadowed by the popular ones?

I tend to miss posts in smaller communities, no matter what sorting options I use when I display the “Subscribed” feed on the frontpage.

If I sort by “New”, unsurprisingly most new posts are on the popular communities. Same if I select “Hot”, “Active”, or “Top Hour” etc. Overall it makes sense, small communities don’t have new content as often, and threads there are not that “active” as there not many users.

I think the algorithm should somehow ensure a more diverse feed. There also no “multi-reddits” atm, so you can’t just create a feed of those smaller communities.

Of course, I could create another account and only subscribe to small communities, but that’s inconvenient. Simply checking them manually is what I do atm, but it’s also not that convenient. A temporal solution might be using the RSS feeds, but overall it seems something should be done about it on Lemmy’s end.

So, anyone else experiencing that or am I missing something? Because if I am not the only one then perhaps this issue should be brought to the attention of the devs (if it wasn’t already).

Blaze,
@Blaze@iusearchlinux.fyi avatar

I use different accounts for different purposes. One for generic tech news, another one for niche hobbies

pewgar_seemsimandroid,

i have accounts for languages one for English (lemmy.blahaj.zone) and one for estonian (lemm.ee)

Interesting_Test_814,

This guy took the lemm.ee TLD literally

pewgar_seemsimandroid,

well i don’t remember purchasing lemm.ee

Interesting_Test_814,

I mean the .ee, technically it’s for Estonia but i don’t think it’s supposed to be an estonian instance (or maybe I’m getting woooshed by your comment, in which case never mind)

pewgar_seemsimandroid,

there is an estonian community there but the instance is not for estonian

MigratingtoLemmy,

We should open an issue

fgil,

There’s currently a PR for a different sort that would kinda of address this issue.

github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/pull/3378

MentalEdge,
@MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz avatar

This seems ideal. I hope it makes it in soon.

giant_smeeg,

Aslong as it hides posts that are old from a less active community.

I don’t need a 14day old post popping up on the front page all the time

maegul,
@maegul@lemmy.ml avatar

Wow. I’m kinda impressed that that’s already in the works.

I’m rather pleased with how many developers have gotten involved with the project. Looks like the work might not be finished yet on this feature, but it’s definitely on its way!

deweydecibel,

After the stability issues with Lemmy were addressed (and they have been, for the most part…) the next thing that needed a revamp was content aggregation. It’s too stale. It’s no wonder they’re pilling on to address it.

IIRC it took quite a while for Reddit to find an algorithm that worked, and it constantly needs tweaking. It will here, as well.

SubsAndDubs,

Had to block some of the meme communities there for this very reason. My feed no matter what was meme after meme. Blocking them has made the all feed much better.

Anon819450514,

You should go see the github for lemmy-ui. There is feature request to add the weight of the community into account so we don’t only see the most popular post from the biggest communities. github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy-ui/issues

CmdrShepard,

That’d be great. Currently 90% of my feed is /c/memes and while I do find them entertaining, I also miss a ton of posts from smaller communities related to my hobbies that I would engage with more.

Zeth0s,

I blocked meme, shitposting and 196.

All is nicer now.

I liked some of the memes but they were too many

gkd,
@gkd@lemmy.ml avatar

Best solution I’ve found is to block all of that on the main account and just switch over to another account if you feel like seeing the memes.

Anticorp,

I blocked that community because it dominated every feed.

GnuLinuxDude,
@GnuLinuxDude@lemmy.ml avatar

I finally created my lemmy account specifically so that I could browse lemmy.ml again without seeing memes all over the home page!

teawrecks,

Yeah, I had to leave memes because it was my whole feed. I feel like one of lemmy’s biggest potential selling points would be a scriptable feed. There are some small communities I want to see every post in, and other huge ones that I only want to see maybe the top 5 from.

MentalEdge, (edited )
@MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz avatar

It’s also preventing smaller subs from being discovered and growing.

Seems there’s a PR for a “best” sorting option, which sorts by the top post from each sub, and then the second place post from each sub, and so on.

Sounds perfect.

HollowNotion,

I haven’t looked at the PR, but if it’s really that simple, that doesn’t seem like the full solution. I don’t particularly want a sub with 10 users popping up on the front page after 3 upvotes just because it got to the top of that sub. Sub weight, as mentioned in the top comment here, should probably be taken in to account.

MentalEdge,
@MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz avatar

That’s honestly exactly what I would want.

neo,
@neo@lemmy.comfysnug.space avatar

Then don’t subscribe to that 10 person sub?

HollowNotion,

Doesn’t stop them from showing up via All and Local, which is what I want to do without having the completely block these communities. Just my preference.

neo,
@neo@lemmy.comfysnug.space avatar

I’ve unfollowed /c/memes for exactly this reason. Not that I don’t like them, but I wanna see “literally anything else”

allmond226,

The problem is I mostly use lemmy(or reddit before) on mobile, so sadly all this neat stuff doesn’t help me

MentalEdge,
@MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz avatar

The sorting systems are server-side, not client.

morrowind,
@morrowind@lemmy.ml avatar

If web adds it, it is likely many apps will follow suit. It’s all open source after all.

AlaskaMan,

That’s bloody brilliant. I hope it’s implemented soon.

GiuseppeAndTheYeti,

Yes, but I figure that’s just the way it will go until the community grows. Give it another couple months of growth and reddit exodus then I imagine we’ll see far more QOL updates to Lemmy and Jerboa.

lemminer,

You might need to remove some of those popular communities to extract what you are actually looking for. Because the posts from the popular communities stay on the top of your list. That worked for me.

AnonTwo,

I had to block one of the meme's communities for now because there were times where one person would post 4 different memes within seconds of each other, they would all get upvoted, and now a 4th of the page are memes

Not that I dislike memes, but it was happening for most of the day. It did convince me to specialize my subscribed list a bit more though.

donut4ever,
@donut4ever@lemmy.world avatar

Wouldn’t setting the feed to local fix this issue? Anyway, I had to block a couple of communities that were posting 092475097809 posts a second. I saw nothing but those, so I blocked them. All good now.

Astaroth,

I think some way to temporarily exclude/include which communities’ feed show up would be ideal.

And maybe some way to tag or group up communities into collections.

Interesting_Test_814,

Yeah, I’ve actually just unsubscribed from !memes because otherwise it was the only community to appear in my subscribed feed. One thing reddit did well and I miss on lemmy was giving visiblility to posts on smaller subscribed communities when sorting by hot

sunaurus,
@sunaurus@lemm.ee avatar

I just unsubscribe from communities which appear in All anyway, it’s a pretty good solution IMO.

mick,

I’m using Voyager and there’s a Home feed that shows only posts from my subscribed communities. It’s not as good as multi-reddits, but it’s better than checking each community individually for new posts.

OldFartPhil,

The web pages for Lemmy and kbin have the ability to filter by subscribed communities, as well. I think what most of us are thinking of is a way to view the “All” feed that gives more weight to the smaller communities, which would help us discover new communities to subscribe to.

fearout,
@fearout@kbin.social avatar

With you on this. I don’t like current Lemmy/kbin sorting methods. Most of my subscribed feed is filled with like 5 top communities, but I’m actually interested in those so I don’t want to block them.

It would be great if posts from smaller communities were injected into the feed even if they don’t really meet the “hot” requirements.

Lily33,

For me at least, that's true on lemmy, but not so much on kbin - my feed there is seems to include smaller communities too.

fearout,
@fearout@kbin.social avatar

I’m on kbin myself, and tech/news/similar communities seem to dominate the feed. Do you have similar large ones in your feed?

Lily33,

Kind of - but a lot of my communities just don't get more than one post per day, so that limits the diversity a lot.

paulallen,

I had to unfollow ”politics” because it took over my entire homepage. It’s a bummer because the I like seeing the occasional political post. I’m guessing they drive more engagement and that’s why they’re so ”loud”.

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