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key, (edited ) in Are Americans more prone to conspiracy theories than people in other countries?
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Studies have found ( for example ) conspiracy thinking correlates with extremist political beliefs, especially right wing political beliefs, across countries. That linked study found the effect was strengthened by lack of political control.

So countries with more political extremists, especially far right wing in media platforms, leads to more popular conspiracy theories.

jeffw,
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We conclude that conspiracy mentality is associated with extreme left- and especially extreme right-wing beliefs, and that this non-linear relation may be strengthened by, but is not reducible to, deprivation of political control.

anarchy79,
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That is the finest example of begging the question I have seen in years! It’s really rare to see in the wild.

deadbeef79000,

Oooh, could you expand on that? I’ve always had a tough time identifying begging the question and a real example would help.

anarchy79,
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You are MOST welcome, it took me ages to make it click, this is the best example I have found:

  • How come the iPhone so popular?
  • Because it’s the hottest thing on the market right now.
deadbeef79000,

Ha! I’d discarded that as just a tautology and went looking for something else.

TYVM.

anarchy79,
@anarchy79@lemmy.world avatar

YAMBB

you and me both bro

someguy3, in What are some food items that cost less than what they "should"?

Like everything made in China.

A shirt that costs $8? Board game that costs $20?

Boozilla, in Are Americans more prone to conspiracy theories than people in other countries?
@Boozilla@lemmy.world avatar

Only an agent of the New World Order would post this.

ApostleO,

You know too much, Trent Miller. Would be a shame if people knew you lived at 221b Evergreen Terrace, Castle Rock Maine.

JusticeForPorygon, in Are Americans more prone to conspiracy theories than people in other countries?
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IDK if it’s that or just the fact that there’s both a lot of us and a great sense of nationalism instilled in us from a very young age. I’ve been to Mt. Rushmore twice. Only recently did I learn about how it was a sacred site to the native people that we promised to leave alone, before stealing it and blowing it to hell.

What I’m getting at is that we’re taught that America is the greatest nation on the planet, and we’re encouraged to be loud about that statement. So when a certain group of people in the government who are also very loud about their beliefs start saying some things that might sound completely bonkers to a foreigner, a lot of people find themselves agreeing purely because they like the attitude of the people talking.

kent_eh,

Visiting Rushmore as a non-American is even weirder than you imagine.

The levels of over the top blatantly performative “patriotism” is quite bizarre to be surrounded by.

And the suspicious looks we got for not participating enthusiastically was discomforting (no, I’m not going to recite a pledge of allegiance to your country. Why would you expect me to?)

captainlezbian,

Yeah sorry about that. They’re similarly awful to live near.

And the reality is Mt Rushmore is mostly going to be visited by people like that and foreigners. Mt Rushmore is one of the principal sacred sites of the American civil religion. Treat them like religious pilgrims because they kinda were, but they don’t even realize it. The pledge of allegiance is a prayer to adherents.

anarchy79,
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You think brainwashing may have something to do with it?

JusticeForPorygon,
@JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah that’s essentially what I wanted to describe.

anarchy79,
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I agree. Definitely brainwashing.

Mathazzar, in Does AI-generated art posted on lemmy bother you?

I’m against AI-generated anything as a principal. I have too many friends in the art community who’s primary form of income is the art they create.

I think I’ve become more jaded over time. I blacklist authors who use AI generated cover art, and I’m getting to the point that I want to do the same for games because I am so tired of hearing AI voices to replace characters, even if that character is an AI in the game.

Again, it doesn’t stem from my hate of new technology, but rather the people being effected by that technology - the artists, voice actors, what have you. And also there’s that thing where I do not want to talk to a chat robot for things.

jabathekek, in Are Americans more prone to conspiracy theories than people in other countries?
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I would say people in countries with poor or non-existent public education are more prone. The USA’s public education system was eviscerated in the 70’s I think.

TropicalDingdong,

I would say people in countries with poor or non-existent public education are more prone. The USA’s public education system was eviscerated in the 70’s I think.

As early as the 60s, but really the 80s. Through the 70s US had some of the best public education on the planet. The move to privatize education started in earnest under Reagan (in California, as governor), and then further under Reagan (and every president and congress to now).

Specifically:

• calling for an end to free tuition for state college and university students

• annually demanding 20 percent across-the-board cuts in higher education funding

• repeatedly slashing construction funds for state campuses

• engineering the firing of Clark Kerr, the highly respected president of the University of California

• declaring that the state “should not subsidize intellectual curiosity”

files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/EJ684842.pdf

tdawg,

How the fuck do you come to the conclusion that you’re spending too much money on education

ShittyBeatlesFCPres,

With Reagan, it was because Republicans at the time thought there would be too many educated poor people. One of his advisors (Roger Freeman) said:

“We are in danger of producing an educated proletariat…That’s dynamite! We have to be selective on who we allow [to go to college]…If not, we will have a large number of highly trained and unemployed people.”

He was basically worried about a revolution because of it.

Source: theintercept.com/…/student-loans-debt-reagan/

There’s other sources if you don’t like the Intercept.

satanmat,

Easy

They are talking at the dinner table about doing things that are against my self interest. I don’t want those damn kids learning that. Therefore cut education

Rather that you know the market place of ideas that I espouse; as long as they match what I believe.

pearsaltchocolatebar,

Just look at the GOP. They repeat garbage until their pawns believe it.

ReallyActuallyFrankenstein,

Well, you see, it was educate 10,000 people or build another fighter jet.

homesweethomeMrL,

R E A G A N.

The Trump era began by ripping out the solar panels on the White House and tricking blue collars into voting against themselves.

It was, and is, fucking awful.

captainlezbian,

That last one hits hard. The state must subsidize intellectual curiosity. Intellectual curiosity gave us everything from electricity to modern governmental theory to the mathematics that would later turn out to allow wireless communications. Curiosity without a point is extremely valuable.

And it should be noted that even in late medieval Europe the state funded intellectual curiosity. The nobility were the state and many either were curious themselves or would patronize intellectuals

anarchy79,
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And people look at that and say, sure, I’ll vote for this guy.

It’s a self perpetuating spiral to hell.

watson387,
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By design. It’s a lot easier to fleece stupid people.

sronweb, in Thunderbird or Betterbird. What is better on Windows?

You may compare both as, is possible to share the same profile between the 2 apps. Actually I rely on Thunderbird, as I use it since the beginning, and it has the functions I need. Perhaps I will give a try on the Betterbird as well.

NexiusLobster, in Does AI-generated art posted on lemmy bother you?
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I created !traditional_art for this exact reason

afraid_of_zombies,

All ideology can ever do is reassert itself endlessly

I read that quote many many years ago and it has influenced my career and personal life more than any other sentence.

genie, in Best android app for news aggregation?

For the self hosters – Nextcloud news!

But the underlying answer for me is an RSS feed aggregator. Set up your own feeds and tweak as needed.

MicrowavedTea, in Whats the difference between the language codes ro and ro_v26 (romanian)?

With a quick search it seems to be a translation specifically targeting Android 8.0 (API 26) but I only see it in the TBLauncher project. Some small details here but not sure why there is a separate translation for it github.com/TBog/TBLauncher/issues/90.

Nemo, in Let's get raunchy

On a tiny island in an artificial lake in the middle of a big city park.

Randomgal, in What are some food items that cost less than what they "should"?

To be fair, banana are only cheap in North America compared to the cost of other fruits. Bananas are pretty expensive if you consider you can get around 8-10 for a dollar in places where they are local.

intensely_human,

I can get 4 for a dollar where I live in the States

Devdogg,

Yes and 8 for a dollar seems to be twice what you’d get.

DumbAceDragon, in Does AI-generated art posted on lemmy bother you?
@DumbAceDragon@sh.itjust.works avatar

At this point I’ve just blocked every AI art community that I come across. The art itself is rarely interesting and it’s really easy to spot. Kinda wish lemmy had more artists, would love some human-made stuff to balance it out.

GoodbyeBlueMonday, (edited )

Some of us are a lot more hesitant about internet-publicly sharing work now, since it’ll likely be scraped and used for someone else’s profit.

Rational worry or not, I know I just don’t post what I’ve been working on because of that. I know I’m not some artistic genius, but I still don’t like my data being hoovered up for any purpose, be they privacy concerns or training models without my explicit consent. Same way when I show my work IRL I wouldn’t be happy if someone was dragging around a photocopier, or taking high-res photos of everything I do. Granted, I have the same concerns about even posting comments, but that’s had the upside of my posting less.

Toneswirly,

I totally get this concern. Copyright law seems to barely benefit the small artist when a large tech company can “train” their AI on others work without their consent. I personally would love to see all the LLM producers be held accountable for the IP theft they have perpetrated on such a massive scale.

afraid_of_zombies,

Copyright law shouldn’t be a thing. I personally think LLMs have done a great job showing everyone how bad it is.

Toneswirly,

Its just concentrating power in large tech companies who are stealing to profit. The great job they’ve done is find yet another loophole in an already broken system. They are not “showing everyone” anything… People, largely, dont give a shit about that kind of thing. Thats why there are loopholes to exploit in the first place.

afraid_of_zombies, (edited )

I love this strawman so freaken much.

If the law is unjust does that mean the criminal is good? No.

If the law is unjust doesn’t that mean the criminal is bad? No.

Take the worst most vile corporation in human history, partner them with thirty other of the most disgusting inhuman monsters of a corporation. A true legend of doom! Then have your legion of doom take advantage of a small legal hole in the copyright system. Is the copyright system now a good just system because very bad people got around it? Was it a good justice system before that?

The moral character of a person and how good the law is are seperate independent facts. I don’t care that some big tech is exploiting the hole I don’t care if the nicest person whomever lived was. The law is shit and I won’t defend a shit system. Me attacking a bad law is not me defending a lawbreaker.

The good news is because it is groups with deep pockets breaking this shit system is regular folks have a shot of being free of it. Me vs a giant media company? I will lose. A billionaire against one? They might win. Once it is understood that running something thru an AI removes the copyright the rest of us can gain.

Toneswirly,

Lol at calling my argument a strawman. Classic projection.

afraid_of_zombies,

Hey instead of pointing out how imperfect I am why not just defend your argument?

afraid_of_zombies,

Oh sorry I forgot to ask. How is copying the same as stealing? If I take your money you no longer have it, and I do. If I copy your idea do you still have your idea?

RBWells, (edited ) in You have a magic pill, which de-ages you by 20 years. You can take it once in your life only, so long as you are at least 20. What age — past, current or future — do you reckon is best to take it?

Probably 65, as 45 was my vampire age, and I have enjoyed the time since that age. I am not sure I’d like to go back to fertility though. Think about it, say you take it at 40, menarche around 15 and menopause around 55, that’s periods for 60 years instead of 40 years, and twenty extra years you might get pregnant.

I’ve had some time to think on this, I still say probably 65. I waffled for awhile because I would like to have the build I had before the last 2 children, but keep the kids, the ten pound wonder blew out my abs and skin which happily bounced completely back several times did not make a complete recovery with the last. But the 3 additional years I spent nursing them provides additional protection vs. breast cancer, don’t think I’d want to give up their half of that. And I have literally felt better and healthier in the years after 40, so rather have more of those.

MapleEngineer, (edited ) in Let's get raunchy

God, so many.

In the telecom rooms at work, often, like multiple times a week. In the boardroom at work. In my cubicle at work after hours while waiting for a delivery.

In the back of my truck in every garage around the building where we worked. In my truck in a Walmart parking lot at lunch time. In my truck parked on a busy street in downtown Ottawa at lunchtime on a weekday.

In a stall in a busy boarding stable while people were coming and going.

In her pool in her backyard in the city in the middle of the day.

In the parking garage at a mall on Christmas eve.

In the public bathroom in an office building while people came and went.

So many more.

raef,

Just show us all up, why don’t you?

You are reminding me of parking lots, people walking by, knocking on steamed up windows.

Probably the worst, and most regular, was a couch in my parents’ living room. Spooning under a blanket can turn into clandestine sex real quick. All while watching cartoons.

MapleEngineer,

That was all one woman, a coworker. I miss her a lot.

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