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Nemo, in Am I the only one getting agitated by the word AI?

AI isn’t reserved for a human-level general intelligence. The computer-controlled avatars in some videogames are AI. My phone’s text-to-speech is AI. And yes, LLMs, like the smaller Markov-chain models before them, are AI.

marx2k, (edited ) in What are you drinking tonight, and is it what you really want to be drinking?

For dinner, either some kombucha I made or some water kefir i made, both carbonated with Welch’s grape juice. Pretty good stuff.

After dinner, 16oz of a hazy juicy ipa I brewed last month.

I also made a bunch of wine so the wife and I have been drinking these www.acouplecooks.com/kalimotxo-red-wine-coke/

Fucking delicious

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quicksand,

And all my friends told me I was a degenerate for mixing wine and soda. I guess I’m actually a fancy Euro-style innovator

marx2k,

You’re a person with the finer tastes in life. don’t let the riffraff tell you different

ace_garp, in Have you ever seen coal burn? If yes, why?
@ace_garp@lemmy.world avatar

Yes, in 1989.

East Perth to Midland train yards on the footplate of the Flying Scotsman.

The fireman was shovelling coal into the firebox, and it was one of the most concentrated sources of heat I have seen in my life.

Thorny_Insight, in Am I the only one getting agitated by the word AI?

Real AGI does not exist yet. AI has existed for decades.

intensely_human, (edited )

What would a “real AGI” be able to do that an LLM cannot?

edit: again, the smartest men in the room loudly proclaiming their smartness, until someone asks them the simplest possible question about what they’re claiming

Pipoca,

One low hanging fruit thing that comes to mind is that LLMs are terrible at board games like chess, checkers or go.

ChatGPT is a giant cheater.

Hotzilla,

GPT3 was cheating and playing poorly, but original GPT4 played already in level of relatively good player, even in mid game (not found in the internet, do require understanding the game, not just copying). GPT4 turbo probably isn’t so good, openai had to make it dummer (read: cheaper)

Thorny_Insight, (edited )

Artificial intelligence might be really good, perhaps even superhuman at one thing, for example driving a car but that same competence doesn’t apply over variety of fields. Your self-driving car can’t help with your homework. With artificial general intelligence however, it does. Humans posses general intelligence; we can do math, speak different languages, know how to navigate social situations, know how to throw a ball, can interpret sights, sounds etc.

With a real AGI you don’t need to develop different versions of it for different purposes. It’s generally intelligent so it can do it all. This also includes writing its own code. This is where the worry about intelligence explosion origins from. Once it’s even slightly better than humans at writing its code it’ll make a more competent version of itself which will then create even more competent version and so on. It’s a chain reaction which we might not be able to stop. After all it’s by definition smarter than us and being a computer; also million times faster.

Edit: Another feature that AGI would most likely, though not neccessarily posses is consciousness. There’s a possibility that it feels like something to be generally intelligent.

esserstein,

Be generally intelligent ffs, are you really going to argue that llms posit original insight in anything?

blanketswithsmallpox,
Thorny_Insight,

Have I claimed it has changed?

TrickDacy, in Am I the only one getting agitated by the word AI?
@TrickDacy@lemmy.world avatar

You’re not the only one but I don’t really get this pedantry, and a lot of pedantry I do get. You’ll never get your average person to switch to the term LLM. Even for me, a techie person, it’s a goofy term.

Sometimes you just have to use terms that everyone already knows. I suspect we will have something that functions in every way like “AI” but technically isn’t for decades. Not saying that’s the current scenario, just looking ahead to what the improved versions of chat gpt will be like, and other future developments that probably cannot be predicted.

Silentiea,

I don’t think the real problem is the fact that we call it AI or not, I think it’s just the level of hype and prevalence in the media.

adam_y, in What songs do you like that are in a language which you don't speak?
@adam_y@lemmy.world avatar

Starts off in English but really kicks in when it turns Welsh.

patio song by Gorkys Zygotic Mynci

TexMexBazooka, in How are you all making it right now with grocery store prices?

Eating fingernails with a side of depression

moosetwin,
@moosetwin@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

that hit a bit too close to home

spicytuna62,
@spicytuna62@lemmy.world avatar

Ever pick your nose?

TexMexBazooka,

Yeah, extra protein

AnalogyAddict, in Anyone shop on Temu? What are your best finds?

I would never shop from Temu because of their ads. The rest of the reasons are just backup.

viralJ, in Am I the only one getting agitated by the word AI?

I remember the term AI being in use long before the current wave of LLMs. When I was a child, it was used to describe the code behind the behaviour of NPC in computer games, which I think is still used today. So, me, no, I don’t get agitated when I hear it, I don’t think it’s a marketing buzzword invented by capitalistic a-holes. I do think that using “intelligence” in AI is far too generous, whichever context it’s used in, but we needed some word to describe computers pretending to think and someone, a long time ago, came up with “artificial intelligence”.

Rikj000,
@Rikj000@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Thank you for reminding me about NPCs,
we have indeed been calling them AI for years,
even though they are not capable of reasoning on their own.

Perhaps we need a new term,
e.g. AC (Artificial Consiousness),
which does not exists yet.

The term AI still agitates me though,
since most of these are not intelligent.

For example,
earlier this week I saw a post on Lemmy,
where a LLM suggested to a user to uninstall a package, which would definitely have broken his Linux distro.

Or my co-workers,
who asked development questions I had to the LLMs they use, which yet has to generate me something usefull / something that actually works.

To me it feels like they are pushing their bad beta products upon us,
in the hopes that we pay to use them,
so they can use our feedback to improve them.

To me they don’t feel intelligent nor consious.

Blueberrydreamer,

I would argue that humans also frequently give bad advice and incorrect information. We regurgitate the information we read, and we’re notoriously bad at recognizing false and misleading info.

More important to keep in mind is that the vast, vast majority of intelligence in our world is much dumber than people. If you’re expecting greater than human intelligence as your baseline, you’re going to have a wildly different definition than the rest of the world.

FooBarrington,

For example,
earlier this week I saw a post on Lemmy,
where a LLM suggested to a user to uninstall a package, which would definitely have broken his Linux distro.

Colleagues of mine have also recommended me uninstalling required system packages. Does that mean my colleagues aren’t intelligent/conscious? That humans in general aren’t?

Rikj000,
@Rikj000@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

That humans in general aren’t?

After working 2 years on an open source ML project, I can confidently say that yes, on average, lights aint that bright sadly.

PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S, (edited ) in What are you drinking tonight, and is it what you really want to be drinking?
@PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Cherry Coke.

Yes.

KpntAutismus,

now i want one too :|

MyDogLovesMe, in What are you drinking tonight, and is it what you really want to be drinking?

The tears of my defeated enemies, …with an olive.

toomanypancakes,
@toomanypancakes@lemmy.world avatar

Delicious, vengeful, and classy all in one! I like your style

Akasazh, in Why do christian apologists say the name of the person they're talking to so often?
@Akasazh@feddit.nl avatar

Neuro linguistic programming.

OceanSoap, in What are you drinking tonight, and is it what you really want to be drinking?

Water. Also, sparlking flavored water. Wish I was drinking soda.

OceanSoap, in Am I the only one getting agitated by the word AI?

My coworker just gave me this rant the other day about AI.

the_stat_man, in Am I the only one getting agitated by the word AI?

In my first AI lecture at uni, my lecturer started off by asking us to spend 5 minutes in groups defining “intelligence”. No group had the same definition. “So if you can’t agree on what intelligence is, how can we possibly define artificial intelligence?”

AI has historically just described cutting edge computer science at the time, and I imagine it will continue to do so.

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