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mumblerfish, in Do you ever question your life?

Aisling Bea reference or is that actually an english saying?

buycurious, in What is the term for an abstract personification? (Examples below)

Isn’t this anthropomorphization?

Illuminostro, in If You Had to Worship or be the Champion of an Ancient Greek God/Goddess Which One Would You Pick?

Helios. Because the sun is real, and everything dies without it.

Illuminostro, in Is there an artist whose work you love but was a shitty person?

Zakk Wylde. A violent drunk redneck with the mind of an overgrown 15 year old.

Valmond, in Is there an artist whose work you love but was a shitty person?

I only found out they were shitty persons afterwards.

key, in Do you ever question your life?
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Every 5 minutes

bjoern_tantau, in Is there an artist whose work you love but was a shitty person?
@bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de avatar

My favourite book is Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland. My edition has a foreword about how Lewis Carroll wasn’t really a pedophile. He just had so many pictures of naked kids, spent so much time with them and wanted to marry the real Alice while she was young solely because he had soooo much love for children. Not in a creepy way at all. No no, not at all creepy.

Kiernian,

Okay, so this topic is moderately amusing to me. The truth is we still don’t actually know for sure, but it’s WEIRD.

He had a long and apparently well-documented history (letters he wrote) of multiple relationships with adult women. So much so that his family attempted to cover it all up because, by victorian standards, it was absolutely fucking scandalous. Like, wreck the surname for generations scandalous (which admittedly didn’t take much by victorian standards). This makes it look like he had NO relationships with adult women, because being an oddball that way was LESS of a freakshow publicly than sleeping around was.

The victorians also had this weird thing (by today’s standards) about nude children being the very symbol of innocence. Like, so much so that you’d wonder if they thought the mere sight of naked babies restored an adult’s innocence or something.

And these people had WEIRD hangups about sex.

We’re talking they supposedly covered the legs of tables and chairs in cloth so they would less resemble actual people’s legs, lest someone accidentally think of what’s at the TOP of legs on people. (genitalia! scary!)

The schism with Alice’s family may just have been that SOME people were POSSIBLY gossiping behind closed doors about the man and they refused to be associated with even the POSSIBILITY of scandal, especially if that scandal was that he slept with multiple women. There’s also mention that he was interested in Alice’s older sister, and something about a maid.

The whole thing is just straight up odd, but apparently most of the pedo rumors didn’t start until after his death. I’m not sure what, if anything, that means.

So, who knows. an oddball dude in a SUUUPER sexually repressed society, it honestly could go either way on coin flip odds.

bjoern_tantau,
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Thanks, didn’t know these things.

theywilleatthestars, in Is there an artist whose work you love but was a shitty person?

Joss Whedon

gilokee,
@gilokee@lemmy.world avatar

why?

Guntrigger, (edited )

Apparently he’s a massive asshole and has pretty much abused people on every set he’s worked on.

GluWu, (edited ) in Is there an artist whose work you love but was a shitty person?

Die Antwoord

spittingimage,
@spittingimage@lemmy.world avatar

Go on…

GluWu,

About what?

MDKAOD,

Good talk. Great convo. Well done.

tuxtey,

Twas a verbal match for the centuries. My children shall know of this day.

Guntrigger,

I think people want to know why they are shitty people.

I can answer after looking at their wiki: seems they like grooming and assaulting kids.

9715698,

Die Antwoord is the answer.

pomodoro_longbreak, in Do you ever question your life?
@pomodoro_longbreak@sh.itjust.works avatar

Yeah I like to come for air like every few years or so

FluffyPotato, in If You Had to Worship or be the Champion of an Ancient Greek God/Goddess Which One Would You Pick?

Artemis for sure. I have always been a fan of her plus I love nature and archery.

Nemo, in Do you ever question your life?

Constantly. Nosce te ipsum.

grasshopper_mouse, in What are some things that you have experienced in fever dreams that don't actually exist in real life?
@grasshopper_mouse@lemmy.world avatar

I have a reoccurring dream, sometimes an actual fever is involved, sometimes it’s after I’ve just had a vaccine (maybe also a fever then?), but I’m always in some medieval or Victorian-era setting and it’s night time and there’s a full moon and I turn into a werewolf. I then go on a killing spree and kill people I know in the dream (no one I know in real life) in totally brutal ways with teeth and claws, and then the sun comes up and I turn into a human again and I realize what I’ve done and I freak out, and that’s when I wake up sweaty and panting like I’ve just run a marathon. It’s nuts and has happened several times.

Tripp1976, in Is there an artist whose work you love but was a shitty person?

I saw Bassnectar perform 24 times. Then we found out he likes to fuck underage girls. That killed all respect I had for him immediately.

BigPotato,

Oop. That’s one I didn’t know. That’s gonna recontextualize Beauty Vs Noise for me.

fruitycoder, in If You Had to Worship or be the Champion of an Ancient Greek God/Goddess Which One Would You Pick?

Prometheus for sure. The Titian that humble his kind, the Titan that modeled man from clay, that stole fire from the Olympians when he saw man had no other gifts, that freed hope from Pandora’s box.

Athenas and Hephaestus’s gifts are invaluable gods of wisdom, craftsmen, and artificial beings, but without fire from the defiant Titan we had nothing to really build our cities from.

tal, (edited )
@tal@lemmy.today avatar

Also, Prometheus paid a horrific price for helping humanity. Generally-speaking, the Greek pantheon is fairly self-interested, and not terribly interested in helping humanity in general.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prometheus

In Greek mythology, Prometheus (/prəˈmiːθiəs/; Ancient Greek: Προμηθεύς, [promɛːtʰéu̯s], possibly meaning “forethought”)[1] is sometimes referred to as the God of Fire.[2] Prometheus is best known for defying the Olympian gods by stealing fire from them and giving it to humanity in the form of technology, knowledge, and more generally, civilization.

In some versions of the myth, he is also credited with the creation of humanity from clay.[3] Prometheus is known for his intelligence and for being a champion of mankind,[4] and is also generally seen as the author of the human arts and sciences.[5] He is sometimes presented as the father of Deucalion, the hero of the flood story.[6][7][8]

The punishment of Prometheus for stealing fire from Olympus and giving it to humans is a subject of both ancient and modern culture. Zeus, king of the Olympian gods, condemned Prometheus to eternal torment for his transgression. Prometheus was bound to a rock, and an eagle—the emblem of Zeus—was sent to eat his liver (in ancient Greece, the liver was thought to be the seat of human emotions). His liver would then grow back overnight, only to be eaten again the next day in an ongoing cycle.

I don’t think that any other character in the pantheon could realistically be called as sympathetic. I’m not sure that any other divide Greek figure deserves humanity’s gratitude.

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