Why do most people refuse to accept that they are wrong

I have come across a lot’s of people like these. like 99% of them. Sometimes it makes me think twice if what i am saying is wrong? What’s wrong with them. Is it so hard to swallow your pride and acknowledge that the other person is speaking facts? When they come to know they are wrong they proceed to insult/make fun of others to save their ass. Just why?

BaroqueInMind,
@BaroqueInMind@kbin.social avatar

Because I'm not wrong, you are.

AgentGrimstone,

Because it’s easier than admitting it

cheese_greater,

Because they’re never taught or encounter the notion that its fun to be wrong and learn more to correct and be able to speak more confidently in future.

I love when people correct me and we have a little discourse and the truth-seeking function of this format is satisfied in the end with everybody playfully (or sometimes testily but still vaguely good-faith) cross-examining each other and leaving space for learning and retaining space to allow people to revise when they are genuine in their attempts to understand.

DirigibleProtein,

I thought I was wrong once, but I was mistaken.

PlasterAnalyst,

There's also the possibility of competing interests. There's no "wrong" answer, but people will argue certain facts to persuade others to take their position. This is called "politics."

theherk,

Best thing my daddy taught me; no matter how confident you are, you could always be wrong. Brains are just unreliable sometimes. Sky is blue? Could be wrong. You’re N years old? Probably… but you could be wrong.

Accepting this allows one to improve. Best we can do is recognize this, and try our best to minimize how often we’re wrong.

This has allowed me to withhold confidence in many situations. Not in deference, but in thoughtful acceptance that I truly might be wrong.

Best dad ever.

Metacortechs,

That really warms my heart to hear. I’m trying to be one of the good dads.

Just today my 9 year old and I had a conversation about how I’m always the first to step up and admit when I make a mistake, and communicate what I did or will do to fix it, where I have colleagues who will try to hide their mistakes and front like they never ever make them. Going so far as lying to clients, bosses, and coworkers all the way.

Socsa, (edited )

The problem with this is the quiet nihilism baked into it, which is the same reason so many people believe that widely supported science could be wrong.
In the absolute sense, it is true. Though things like “the sky is blue” is more about linguistics, but for a layperson it’s kind of inconsequential either way. While there is a small possibility that scientific consensus could be wrong, there is orders of magnitude bigger chance that unwarranted skepticism is dangerous. Reality does exist, regardless of how much epistemology you choose to wave away.

theherk,

I don’t think so, and he and I have discussed this in epistemological terms several times over the years. “Sky is blue” example was probably bad as would have been “earth is round” etc. The point isn’t that anything can be wrong, though strictly speaking, I guess it can. What we mean is precisely that our minds have the ability to mislead us and powerfully so. But part of the drive to minimize that is to understand the value of consensus in both scientific communities and wider communities.

To have the best ratio of things about which were correct vs incorrect, being confident in things like the outcome of refereed science is helpful.

zxqwas,

When I feel like I am getting dragged into an argument on the internet I try to remember that when two people argue at least 50% of them are wrong.

KevonLooney,

Not necessarily. Both people can be correct, but arguing just to “win”. Both people can also be wrong.

RBWells,

It depends. Some people will relentlessly mock you for being wrong, no matter how you handle it. At work I have no problem admitting I messed up something, there’s no point and always it’s better to just fix it, right?

But with my ex, he was just dead judgemental. Might as well double down if I wasn’t sure since my accuracy rate was higher than his.

With husband I can just say I don’t know and it’s fine. On the occasion I send him something not factual I do send correction there is no penalty, for lack of a better word.

dope,

2 ways to be right. Solve the mystery. Ignore the mystery.

spittingimage,
@spittingimage@lemmy.world avatar

Because I’m not! I’m not I’m not I’m not!

More seriously, we tend to make it a Great Big Thing when people are wrong. If we acknowledge it and move on, and let them do the same, I’m sure admitting when we’re wrong would be much less painful.

shinigamiookamiryuu,

Same here. I don’t call myself a truth seeker because I already know the truth, I call myself a truth seeker because I’m a truth seeker, but I get a more premeditated/artificial vibe from other people. Is it that people forget that leading thinkers actually embraced change? A lot of political theorists, one might say including Karl Marx, are said to have died with different ideas than when they began.

On the opposite end of things, I also get a disapproving reaction when I mention this. I remember long ago I made a fake game picture of a “Pokémon trainer” version of me declaring defeat, which was supposed to be put at the end of discussions to signify I considered myself schooled, and people reacted accusing me of “excess pomp” to quote one person.

HubertManne,
@HubertManne@kbin.social avatar

Truth is a difficult place to get there and the farther you stray from it the harder it is to get to. This is why those who lie intentionally eventually find themselves not living in reality. IE our worst politicians.

stolid_agnostic,

Insecurity. People are afraid of being perceived as weak and don’t have the emotional maturity to work through it. They can’t see that it’s a sign of confidence and strength to be able to do so.

Sensitivezombie,

This. The only real answer.

RememberTheApollo,

On the other side of the coin - why do so many people give others shit for being wrong, especially in areas where right or wrong has no real consequences?

dvoraqs,

Others with bad decision making or reasoning skills has no consequence?

RIP_Cheems,
@RIP_Cheems@lemmy.world avatar

The answer is 1: they’re stubborn, but more importantly 2: it’s because the human brainly is wired to hate conflicting ideas. Quite literally, when a belief or idea of yours in countered, your brain tells you “your feeling pain and in danger”, and this applies to every person, though some people feel it more strongly than others.

kalkulat,
@kalkulat@lemmy.world avatar

What makes you think it’s most people? Who you hangin out with?

Remember, Confucious say: If you are the smartest person in the room, then you are in the wrong room.

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