GentlemanLoser,

Rule 0 - talking about how cool Lemmy is

sbv,

EVERYTHING done/said by conservative politicians is TERRIBLE. Even if this thing is okay, THEY WERE BAD THAT TIME and that’s what we’re going to talk about NOW. COMMENCE THE AIRING OF THE GRIEVANCES.

I don’t entirely disagree, but do we need to do the rage thread every time?

FreshProduceAndShit,

Someone also needs to pipe up to remind you the other side is bad too

cheese_greater, (edited )

I think it would be more helpful for knowledgeable conservatives to stop engaging in bad faith campaigns like “Wokeism” whatever the fuck that is. Its called

Don’t be a fucking [raging] asshole, be a decent neighbor and person and all concern from every side regarding wokeism will evaporate.

Edit: also, drop the stupid “War on Christmas” horseshit. Donald Trump formally won that war, so sayeth him and Fox News. Move out, boys, that task force/cultural narrative can be safely put to bed. Fuck

intensely_human,

Why are people so obsessed with writing down unwritten rules?

sweetcuppincakes, (edited )

Autism

Just to clarify, I don’t think there’s anything wrong with being autistic

intensely_human,

I’m autistic myself. Unwritten rules are generally far more complex than their written form, and the translation into words loses a lot of information. I’d encourage all other autistics to develop their attention and working memory, and then the unwritten rules will start to become apparent.

Rokk,

FOSS but also no ads. And don’t harvest any data to sell either.

I genuinely don’t understand where revenue streams are meant to come from for any of this software with peoples expectations.

But honestly Lemmy is so pro piracy that it doesn’t really matter if you were to charge for your product

AceTKen,
@AceTKen@lemmy.ca avatar

The internet existed for a long time prior to monetization of it. People used to do things because they were good ideas, fun, or helpful.

Revenue streams made things worse.

Rokk,

I think it’s a pretty bold statement to claim that the Internet today is worse than it was 20 years ago before things were being monetised.

People still do stuff just for the sake of it. To be fun, helpful, whatever. However to expect things to just be done for us out of the kindness of people’s hearts I think is bordering on entitled.

glasgitarrewelt,

However to expect things to just be done for us out of the kindness of people’s hearts I think is bordering on entitled.

Yes, there are people who do that, but there are many more people in the FOSS world who don’t expect anything and instead contribute.

Focusing on the entitled people won’t make you happy, reagardless the topic.

Tattorack,
@Tattorack@lemmy.world avatar

Funny, because the Boost app I’m using shows ads on the bottom.

cheese_greater,

You might need to buy it

UndercoverUlrikHD, (edited )
@UndercoverUlrikHD@programming.dev avatar

People being mad at youtube for trying to force people to pay for the insanely expensive service they are providing was/is strange to me, on a similar note.

For FOSS, it’s sort of given in the name though. If it’s not free, it wouldn’t be FOSS, and companies like Google and Facebook have permanently destroyed most people trust in ads not also being paired with data harvesting. Other than offering paid tech support, it’s difficult to find a non intrusive way to get money.

People want prefer a tiny icon in the description where the author(s) ask for donations, but don’t they dare pop up donations to ask for donations though!

cheese_greater,

Nobody has a problem paying, people have a problem with Google tracking and selling off their shit

SgtAStrawberry,

I don’t think those people want revenue to exist, as in everything and all should be free forever and always.

BlueKey,
@BlueKey@kbin.social avatar

Always link the source if you post a comic, article, ...

sag,

Yep, It’s important… Actually everyone just copy @crul even me.LMAO

RizzRustbolt,

Everyone here is old.

Tattorack,
@Tattorack@lemmy.world avatar

Heeeyyyy! I’m only just 30! That’s not old!

art,
@art@lemmy.world avatar

Pipe down, youngin.

MargotRobbie,
@MargotRobbie@lemmy.world avatar

Future Oscar winning movie Barbie is the only permitted commercial interest on Lemmy.

NotSpez,

And the occasional Wolf of Wallstreet plug, if we mention Margot Robbie’s nude scene

MargotRobbie,
@MargotRobbie@lemmy.world avatar

Suspiciously named user, I literally plug all of my movies on this social media platform. Except the first Suicide Squad. And Terminal.

Also, that’s esteemed Academy Award nominated character actress Margot Robbie to you!

shapis,
@shapis@lemmy.ml avatar

Except the first Suicide Squad.

The heck? That movie’s trailer slaps hard.

MargotRobbie,
@MargotRobbie@lemmy.world avatar

Unfortunately, somebody thought it was a good idea to edit the entire movie like the trailer…

Also, Jared Leto(🤮).

wavebeam,
@wavebeam@lemmy.world avatar

that time he sent you a fucking pig carcass is so fucking deranged

NotSpez,

Good call on Terminal. Not the call to star in it, but to pretend it never happened. Also, no need to specify between Suicide Squad and The Suicide Squad, the second one had the The in the title suggesting that it is The one that counts.

When ‘you’ win an oscar I will probably add it to the title, but thanks for the suggestion. ;)

Mr_Blott,

If a post from the Linux communities pops up on your feed, it is your duty as a Windows user to comment “wELL I dOn’t HavE tHAt prOBleM bECauSE I uSe wINdOws” to stop Linux users commenting the opposite on every fucking thread about Windows

kalkulat, (edited )
@kalkulat@lemmy.world avatar

But whatever they do they should not use the word it’s in their comment, or else we see something like itAಠ€’s … and thattAಠ€’s harder to read.

Mr_Blott,

LolA%€d at that

applejacks,
@applejacks@lemmy.world avatar

everytime elon musk so much as farts, it must be posted to at least 10 different communities here and discussed at length

AceTKen,
@AceTKen@lemmy.ca avatar

With 400 permutations of “Fuck this clown” and “how can I block mentions of him” in the comments.

Unfortunately, shitty billionaires make the news. Get rid of billionaires and they won’t be in the news.

applejacks,
@applejacks@lemmy.world avatar

oh cool, i’ll just eliminate billionaires then, that’s pretty easy for me to do.

AceTKen, (edited )
@AceTKen@lemmy.ca avatar

Hey I’m just writing the rules down, not telling you you shouldn’t be annoyed by them.

Teon,
@Teon@kbin.social avatar

Rule 854. kbin is superior!

rustyriffs,

is it though, and why?

Teon,
@Teon@kbin.social avatar

A. It's an unwritten rule on Lemmy.
B. kbinners are not lem-ings.

rustyriffs,

Nah, Lemmy is better.

zepheriths,
  1. Don’t be a os elitist
BeardedGingerWonder,

Something something arch

darcy,
@darcy@sh.itjust.works avatar

btw

job3rg,

Rule 34. Doesnt exist here

fushi01,
@fushi01@lemmy.world avatar

Boy do I have some news for you…

job3rg,

I made a quick slook. Only 1 post per month. (Unless theres more i didnt find)

Tattorack,
@Tattorack@lemmy.world avatar

I dunno man… There’s already someone right here in the comments with “yiffit.net” as their account…

Kolanaki,
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

No! What are you doing?! If you write them down, they’re no longer unwritten!

Communist,
@Communist@lemmy.ml avatar

Pretend ai is insignificant

kalkulat,
@kalkulat@lemmy.world avatar

Don’t have to pretend. Ask your favorite AI for one example of a ‘glittering generality’.

Communist,
@Communist@lemmy.ml avatar

You really do have to pretend that they’re insignificant.

They’re extremely significant. Overhyped? Maybe, but extremely significant nonetheless. I think a lot of people here have gone “well, if it’s overhyped, that means it isn’t even vaguely interesting” and I think the real truth, as much as I hate centrism, is in the middle.

gens, (edited )

What one would think is ai today is not really i. Chatgpt does not understand what it’s talking about and definitively can not lead the machine uprising. Straight up neural networks maybe could, but they’d need magnitudes more computing power then we have now. We would need a new ai for it to be practical.

In my experience gpt-s are more like “what are some examples of x” then “can you solve this problem”. Because the problems are either easy to google or, for the harder problems, gpt straight up lies or rambles uselessly. A search engine helper, in a way.

I’d rather we put all those MWh into solving real problems, instead of startups. Also; Nvidia, fuck you.

AdrianTheFrog,
@AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world avatar

AI is going to significantly affect the amount of people who are able to (or, in a better world, would have to) work.

Communist, (edited )
@Communist@lemmy.ml avatar

I think LLM’s are on the right track, while an LLM with its current architecture likely couldn’t without a ridiculous scale, they do show signs of understanding ( businessinsider.com/chatgpt-open-ai-balancing-tas… ), pretending they are nothing more than autocompletes as the people here do is disingenuous, what it does is predict, and while that’s all it does, that’s also all that makes humans special, the human mind is an object that takes sensory input, and predicts what muscle movements would be best given the sensory input, in fact, our heavy reliance on prediction is the reason magic tricks fool us, the only way to accurately predict things is through reasoning and understanding, we don’t know what happens when we scale, and there’s a reason experts predictions of when AGI will come are getting closer and closer, right before the LLM boom the average prediction was something like 40 years (based on memory), now it’s like, 10.

I consider an LLM to be akin to what would happen if a persons thoughts were immediately transformed into words, without any layer of verification, you think plenty of wrong things, but you don’t say the wrong things you think because you have a layer of verification before speech, and it turns out, according to recent research, adding a verification layer to LLM’s is extremely potent: arxiv.org/abs/2203.14465

It seems, according to this paper, that the trick is to have an LLM generate thousands of possible outputs, and have a separate tool verify their correctness, and then only present the correct output, this could possibly solve hallucination, which is one of the biggest roadblocks to actual intelligence.

While we aren’t at true intelligence yet, we are creating the building blocks that will allow for it, and it will happen, and the experts believe it’s coming soon, LLM’s are not insignificant in terms of progress.

These are tools made of the same component parts as our brain, admittedly, it takes approximately one thousand artificial neurons to simulate a real neuron, but the fact of the matter is, our minds are quite similar to these artificial minds, the artificial minds are just much, much, much, much more simple, it turns out, intelligence is likely a matter of statistical analysis.

gens, (edited )

When you look at a coffe cup from the side, you know it has a hole in it. Because you imagine, not because it’s a reflex.

LLM is basically a point cloud of words. The training uses neural networks and thus pattern recognition. But the llm itself is closer to a database. But hey, sql is also useful for ai (data storage/retrival according to logic).

I’m not an llm expert, by far. But right now they are not much more practical then a find out a bout things helper.

Edit: I do like them. It’s been helpful a couple times and i even got gpt4all installed on my computer for fun.

Communist, (edited )
@Communist@lemmy.ml avatar

When you look at a coffe cup from the side, you know it has a hole in it. Because you imagine, not because it’s a reflex.

You’re looking at this backwards, you know those things because of previous experiences, you predict this might happen due to those.

This is still a matter of prediction, and if that had never happened to you even once, I guarantee you wouldn’t look for it.

They’re also significantly smaller than our brains and multimodality has been shown to help with reasoning, so, considering they’re text only and significantly smaller than our brains, their significantly reduced functionality is to be expected. Especially when you factor in that our brain has verification layers, which have only recently been discovered to work for LLM’s, none of them even implement this yet as far as i’m aware.

Metal_Zealot, (edited )
@Metal_Zealot@lemmy.ml avatar

Each community, at some point in time, has to have someone with severe a case of Main Character Syndrome make a post that refers to another post where their feelings got hurt cuz their initial post didn’t get the exact kind of attention they wanted, which then results in a total shit fit in the comments.

I’ve seen it happen numerous times in my short time on Lemmy. Especially on !memes.

People need to learn how to just suck it up and move on ffs. I swear it’s the r*dditard mentality leaking in here.

Tattorack,
@Tattorack@lemmy.world avatar

Reddit has this too. Especially on subs with younger audiences… Or really old entitled audiences.

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