I’ll go first. Mine is that I can’t stand the Deadpool movies. They are self aware and self referential to an obnoxious degree. It’s like being continually reminded that I am in a movie. I swear the success of that movie has directly lead to every blockbuster having to have a joke every 30 seconds
I’d say 2001 Space Odyssey. The film has its interesting parts but the pace is absolutely awful. It makes it unwatchable. I watched it a while ago and couldn’t finish it. Multiple long dragged sequences showing off the ships where nothing happens. Everything is an excuse to drag the scene, even a goddamn elevator. By the time I got the HAL part I was fed up with it and couldn’t go on. It has multiple parts (starting with the music at the start) where it seemed they had a script but had to have a movie yay long. Like a class film. So they took every opportunity to stretch it.
Some people say I don’t get it because it’s not Michael Bay. That I have to appreciate the art in those long drawn out scenes. Well, excuse me, but I wanted to watch a movie, not a painting. Also, I shouldn’t be expected to be on acid while watching. A disclaimer would help.
The slowness is meant to represent the distance they are traveling, in both time and space. This was also made in 1968, the moon landing was in 1969. Compare Planet of the Apes to 2001 for a good comparison of what special effects were like in the same year.
Most of them are long winded, it was the style of the time.
If you think of the movie as 3 parts. One, pre-man discovers tools (because the monolith changes one tribe). Two, Man must overcome the tools it has created. Three, man is absorbed by the aliens tool to become next-man.
Anyways, I understand why someone might not like it but it is one of my all time favorite movies and its worth watching later in your life as you might get different impressions on it if you are young now
I too recently watched this film for the first time. I didn’t like it at all. The shock factor with HAL maybe kept people interested back then but it’s a almost common theme today. I think Kubrick is overrated.
Holy shit, thank you. My husband thinks I’m crazy for not enjoying this film. We saw it for the first time at a special event thing at a theater because he’d always wanted to see it, and I was so fucking bored.
I remember falling asleep to some dude jogging in a gigantic circle, and I woke up and was like “Omg it’s still playing.”
HAL was neat. Have no idea what was going on with the giant space fetus.
I came out saying that it was the most boring yet gorgeous film I’d ever seen. Because I mean, it WAS fucking pretty.
This, like other movies, I think comes down to novelty. Some of the shit done in that movie was truly incredible… At the time. Some bits are still really interesting.
The jogging scene, for example, was done at a time when CG wasn’t really an option. So then you ask the question… How did they do some of these shots? How is this guy seemingly running in a zero g circle but it’s actually a real camera?
Cinematic transitions are another. The bone spinning into the space station was really cool. It’s a shot that has permeated like every form of media. Now it kinda looks cheap and jarring.
HAL as an AI, an evil robot, was an extremely interesting. Now it’s something that has been done so, so many times since.
As a sci Fi I still like it, the slow pace isn’t something that bothers me. I enjoy movies that are capable of taking their time. So many movies move at breakneck speeds. The plot is really cool to me as well.
Otherwise, yes, it’s not surprising that a modern audience finds this incredibly boring for all the points above.
As a huge fan of the movie (and books) I kind of agree. I have managed to watch it in full only handful of times. I usually fall asleep mid-movie.
Having said that, I still love it. It also helps me fall asleep sometimes, so win-win. But I get what you’re saying.
One thing that’s probably worth keeping in mind is that the movie was made before the manned moon landing in 1969. So many of the scenes are super interesting just from the realism POV. Today we’re one click away from a HD video someone made at the international space station. Back then you had few grainy transmissions from space. Star Wars was almost decade later.
So yeah, seeing ship slowly floating across the screen in complete silence is boring, but it’s also realistic. Same for many other scenes. Now you can play games that will render the same scene in real time on a potato-level PC, so the novelty of seeing “how space might look like out there” is just not there.
So in many ways it’s like seeing the bullet time scene in Matrix for the first time vs seeing the bullet time scene in any random movie decade later.
It’s my favorite film! But I understand it’s not an easy first watch.
It took me years to go back to it. I was taking a class in film narrative and remembered that weird movie I had seen years ago and suddenly I started getting the plot (what little I remembered).
I rewatched it and I was mind blown. There’s a reason it’s considered one of the biggest achievements in film.
I don’t like to smuggly say “it’s not for everyone”. But I’ll say it again, it’s not an easy watch at all. Hardly uncommon for David Lynch. The first time I watched it I didn’t understand what had happened but I always had this calling “there’s something there I missed”. If you feel that way read a bit about it and give it another shot.
My impression of the movie is that half is the “reality” happening while the other half is a sexual fantasy while she is masturbating. When she can’t get off the nightmare of her reality crumbles and she can’t go on. Its a movie that needs to be seen through a mind fog, like most David Lynch movies. Once you allow him to dictate the rules of how the movie is going to presented to you, then you see the beautiful things that he creates with film.
Him as Miller is so fucking good in The Expanse series. In my mind, his face was always Miller when I was reading the series. He is for sure underrated.
I’ve never read Punisher comics so I have no idea what is more comic accurate but I feel like Thomas Jane is the better “artistic” and thoughtful portrayal of Punisher while Jon Bernthal is the more action hero portrayal. Both good in their own right but for different reasons.
Not sure how I feel about Ray Stevenson or Dolph Lundgren.
There are old movies that have aged much better, like The Man in the White Suit and Colossus: The Forbin Project. These should be the ones we call classics.
The ending of se7en makes no sense. All the previous victims were murdered because they suffered from one of the seven deadly sins (gluttony, sloth, greed, lust, pride). But the final two victims - that supposedly would complete the list - did not suffer from these sins, but instead the perpetrators murdered them out of envy and wrath. Gwyneth did not suffer from envy, and Brad did not get murdered for his wrath.
Such a shame because the rest of the movie is great.
that ending was the very first draft of the film. there were multiple other ones but the directer was sent that one by mistake but loved it so much it stayed as that
That’s really interesting! The ending is famous and otherwise well regarded, so the director probably made a good decision - even though I will always disagree :)
Brad suffered extremely for his wrath. As did spaceys character. (who was wrath all along in this movie.)
With envy you’re right. Never thought of that. But the whats in the box scene is so very powerful I kinda never noticed. It is powerfully acted, directed, shot. It cemented the career of everyone who was involved, right there.
Did you watch/enjoy any of Tarantino’s other films?
He’s often praised for his dialogue but tbf I find some of the conversations not at all realistic. I can see how that could rub some people the wrong way.
Can’t think of another movie I remember loving as a teen, and liking less as a grownup than this movie. Directing, plot, premise, are just as contrived as a film could be. One out of seven rating (and the one is only because of the rice).
The critic rating is better than the audience rating. I’ve never seen a film with a high critic rating that didn’t have something worthwhile about it. But I’ve seen a lot of audience hits that were garbage.
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