yamanii,
@yamanii@lemmy.world avatar

Cloud Atlas was good if you paid attention, didn’t notice the face cgi in theaters.

ElPussyKangaroo,

I was under the impression that this thread was for unpopular opinions… 😐

I thought people thought it was a philosophical masterpiece. And I thought it was garbage. I understood fuckall. And I was watching it at my peak time during the day on the appropriate amount of caffeine to stimulate my brain. Nothing.

I may be dumb. Maybe. But I didn’t understand shit, that’s for sure.

fireweed,

There’s a fan recut that takes all the time skip scenes and puts them in chronological order that’s much more straightforward. Personally I can’t imagine watching it that way, but I also refuse to acknowledge The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya except in broadcast order. There’s definitely a large contingent that prefer both these media in chronological order though, so you’re not alone.

ElPussyKangaroo,

I think you’ve replied to the wrong comment, mate.

Funnily enough, I have spoken about Haruhi quite a bit 😂.

fireweed,

My comment was referring to Cloud Atlas while comparing it to Haruhi as another piece of media with dramatic (and controversial) time skips.

ElPussyKangaroo,

Ohhhhh. Makes sense.

I’ve watched Haruhi as well 😂. I have a whole rant on the Haruhi community… Here 😂.

fireweed,

As someone who watched Haruhi back when it was originally broadcast, it’s amazing that people are still discussing the series seventeen years later. In an era when an anime’s impact seems to only last a single season before the fandom moves on, this is especially impressive. Haruhi deserves to stick around, if for no other reason than its historic value; it’s difficult to describe to younger fans just what an impact the anime made on the scene when it dropped.

ElPussyKangaroo,

I feel the same way about so many shows. They’re truly gems and the world is missing out.

finthechat,
@finthechat@kbin.social avatar

Broadcast order is the true way. Chrono is for people who don't have an attention span.

Welt,

Really? Will have to give it another chance

quams69, (edited )

The weird part for me is that they did cgi for a face feature that exists in humans already; when it came out me and my friends joked that the lead, with cgi, looks exactly like him. It’s so strange.

roofuskit,
@roofuskit@lemmy.world avatar

The Wachowskis have made exactly one good movie. And it’s not Cloud Atlas.

lorez, (edited )

Dune is complete crap from the soundtrack to the script. The characters are as thick as cardboard and their interactions motivate nothing. It’s full of slow motion nonsense, flying metal dragonflies and Zimmer’s horns. These days filmmakers are convinced visuals make storytelling. They don’t. Dialogue does and here there’s not a single line I remember.

ours,

OP asked for unpopular opinions and you’ve delivered.

Upvoted you because of that and not because I agree with you (I strongly disagree as a matter of fact).

lorez,

The majority likes that movie. I guess more power to you.

Welt,

I liked lorez’s comments because he explained the reasoning and stood by his opinion. Children don’t understand a one-star review doesn’t on its own communicate anything other than the uncontrolled emotion of the viewer which has nothing to do with the film.

NotPersonal,

Not trying to convince you otherwise. But movies are audiovisual media. It’s right there in the name. So they visuals and the audio are a big thing for that medium. Radio theater had no visuals, but they used sound desing to elevate the medium. Books have no audio nor visuals, so they focus on delivering a great story with great dialogue.

Every medium has its strengths and weaknesses and every work within those mediums should focus on them. If there’s ever a movie that is 5hs long with an amazing story and superb dialogue… then it should’ve been a book.

My point is that it’s ok not to like it. But the idea that a movie should have “good dialogue” is a bit misunderstanding what movies are and what the medium is. You can have a good movie with little to no dialogue or a very very basic story.

lorez, (edited )

While I totally agree that audio and visuals are very important to a motion picture, they are not their fulcrum. Motion pictures, like books and theater before em, narrate stories and there’s no better way to describe the actors of said stories than with dialogue. The things said, the tone, that’s what brings characters to life, that’s what I remember and quote. Without them I care for no story cos I relate to no one. I much prefer a well written piece to some visual effects demo reel, that nowadays is easier to make and while I utterly adore Zimmer 's music, in this case I remember no motif, nothing other than blaring horns, sign that even him was not inspired by the movie.

Chastity2323,

So true, I watched dune in theaters with my friends and half of us fell asleep lmao

kuneho,
@kuneho@lemmy.world avatar

Tho it’s a show and watched only the first season, but Star Trek: Lower Decks is kinda ruining the whole Star Trek world to me.

It’s an OK cartoon, not bad at all. but so not Star Trek to me, at least the first season wasn’t. I get it, it’s the “Go” of the series, the cool and hip genz implementation, you either like it or not, and honestly, I kinda like it, but not as Star Trek.

Olhonestjim,

The writing and direction (the actors were fine!) Of the Kelvin trilogy kinda ruined Trek for me. I refused to give any of the new series a chance. But Lower Decks is reviving my interest. Think I might give Strange New World’s a look soon.

I know what you mean though. It’s been so long since we had a good series.

echodot, (edited )

I like Strange New Worlds and Lower Decks but frankly Discovery can get lost. Oh it’s dark and gritty and special magic flying mushroom aliens that kind of break the setting because they can basically teleport you anywhere, they just ruined the canon. Also it’s set in the past why is it set in the past? The show doesn’t need to be in that time. So they could have set it in the future and actually done something interesting with the franchise.

To me it is clear they didn’t want to make a Star Trek show, so why did they slap the franchise name on it? It would have been fine if they just made an original show.

AlexisFR,
@AlexisFR@jlai.lu avatar

But that’s what they did with season 3 and later?

Kalladblog,
@Kalladblog@lemmy.world avatar

The Irishman - It was so highly recommended by many but I could only go through half the movie (which is 3h long) and despite having watched 90 mins I couldn’t bring myself to watch the second half or recap what happened in the first. Maybe too much flew over my head but it bored me too much and I couldn’t see the appeal at all.

Welt,

Scorsese does that, and he’s done it again. He needs a better editor who could shorten the runtime without losing the flow. Irishman was no Goodfellas but it was a decent story. Agree it wasn’t worth the slow pace though. I think attention spans are typically shorter these days and people expect a bigger payoff than they tend to get, outside of Marvel and porn.

Kalladblog,
@Kalladblog@lemmy.world avatar

Oh, I didn’t mind the slow pace that much but I couldn’t see what the movie was getting at as it seemed like a diary entry of a mafioso. The overarching elements throughout the first half somehow didn’t appeal to me. Marvel has been going downhill for quite a while but that’s a different topic

Welt,

Indeed. That’s what editing does to a film - it helps the story make sense. It’s the only thing that makes film an art form different from any other imo. Acting is art, cinematography is art, music/scoring is art. Directing is only art if it adds some new interpretation.

My joke about Marvel and porn is that their payoff is in some form of orgasm - special effects that wow audiences or literally make them ejaculate.

HollandJim,

Pee Wee’s Big Adventure is the quintessential road movie and it’s rarely been done better.

GentlemanLoser,

Au revoir, Simone!

HollandJim,

Merci boucoup, Pee Wee!

scratchresistor,

This isn’t controversial, in a really good way :)

HollandJim, (edited )

I wish it weren’t… But there are a lot of people out there who’d rather just cancel him. He was a really creative, decent fellow

GladiusB,
@GladiusB@lemmy.world avatar

Tim Burton’s directorial debut btw

Simulation6,

Only trash movies have fast, noisy action scenes that last more then a few seconds.

HollandJim,

Not counting the Max Max films, of course…

ElPussyKangaroo,

I’d say well choreographed and well executed action set pieces that deliver on the promised serotonin and adrenaline release are few.

DLSantini, (edited )

The original Star wars trilogy was overrated, the sequels were underrated, and I’d rate them all to be equally mediocre.

ouRKaoS,

The best thing about Star wars is the world building. The expanded universe with the books, comics, and cartoons contain much better stories than any of the movies.

Blackmist,

The Empire Strikes Back is the only one that I would say is a great movie.

mnemonicmonkeys,

I agree with everything in this thread

captain_aggravated,
@captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works avatar

A New Hope is solid. You can find blemishes, and they’ve torn new ones with the “special editions” that just cram more CGI shit on the screen for no reason, but as a classic Hero’s Journey movie A New Hope works rather well. It was amazing for its time; I mean, a fun Sci-Fi movie? With special effects this good? It was a cultural phenomenon for a reason.

The Empire Strikes Back is the best Star Wars movie that has been made, which is why when most people quote Star Wars they’re actually quoting Empire. The characters are at their deepest, the setting feels the most magical, and the Luke/Vader saber fight is utterly gripping.

Return of the Jedi was the beginning of the “Lucas is a genius who can do no wrong, do everything he says” era. The “let’s put a funny thing in the background” starts happening. We get Jabba’s hedonism palace with the droid torture room, Bikini Leia, Ewoks, and lightning hands Palpatine. This would only get worse by the time the prequel trilogy is made, Lucas gets to make whatever he wants without question.

dumpsterlid, (edited )

Not only that but the method of structuring a narrative that Star Wars popularized (the whole hero’s journey crap) has gone on to completely infect movie storytelling.

The Jedis in Star Wars are super boring, the battle for good and evil with the dark side is also super boring, shallow and uninteresting… the only thing that saves Star Wars are the set design and costume/alien designers who filled up the periphery of boring hero’s journey stories with a vibrant weirdness.

TBi,

I watched and enjoyed the star wars movies but I never thought of them as great.

Karyoplasma,

The Force Awakens would have been a 10/10 movie if it ended with the lightsaber fight on that forest planet. But no, they had to slog through the bullshit Death Star 2 arc and ruin it.

roofuskit,
@roofuskit@lemmy.world avatar

The sequels were rated quite well by critics, except for the final one. The Last Jedi even got a better rating than Return of the Jedi from the originals.

I agree that overall the original Star Wars films are overrated.

MacNCheezus,
@MacNCheezus@lemmy.today avatar

Most movies are incredibly dumb and boring.

GentlemanLoser,

Give us an example of one you do like!

MacNCheezus, (edited )
@MacNCheezus@lemmy.today avatar

Hmm, so I like movies that kinda play with your expectations and turn out to go into a completely different direction than you’d expect.

Dragon (2011) with Donnie Yen is a good example. You think you’re getting another Kung Fu flick, but it turns out to be more of a detective story of almost Sherlock Holmes-style complexity.

Yes there’s kung fu but it’s mostly esoteric and there’s only a few fights, but it’s still a fascinating movie.

Lemminary,

Most films are boring. 🤷‍♂️

smashin,

I thought of this too. Is it because modern social media has destroyed my attention or it it because all movies just suck nowadays.

DeepGradientAscent,
@DeepGradientAscent@programming.dev avatar

Both. It’s your fault and society’s fault.

TotallynotJessica,
@TotallynotJessica@lemmy.world avatar

Most movies have always sucked. We remember the good and forget the trash, so the past seems better than it was. Social media and other forms of entertainment have changed things, but never underestimate survivorship bias and nostalgia.

gwildors_gill_slits,

The Dark Knight has fucking terrible editing and a lot of bad, hammy acting. The opening bank heist is just bad, with really on-the-nose dialogue delivered pretty badly…even William Fichtner seems like he’s trying a little too hard, and he’s an otherwise good actor.

I know the editing has been covered in some YouTube essay that made the rounds a number of years ago so maybe that’s not such an unpopular opinion, but it really sticks out to me like a sore thumb.

Before anyone gets totally mad at me, I still enjoy the overall story, a lot of the action, and I think both Ledger and Bale (dumb batman voice aside) are great. Also, Morgan Freeman, Michal Caine and whatshisname who plays Harvey Dent are also very good too.

GentlemanLoser,

Aaron Eckhart

gwildors_gill_slits,

That’s the one

feedum_sneedson,

My unpopular opinion, I don’t think Heath Ledger’s acting is particularly good in that film.

gwildors_gill_slits,

That’s fair

Karyoplasma, (edited )

I actually fell asleep watching The Dark Knight in a movie theatre. They fucked up the pacing.

Another instance of this is the second Spider Man (the one with Doc Ock). It was so sluggish that I forgot there was a villain halfway through the movie. Then it cut to Ock doing something and I was like “Oh yeah, that guy still exists”.

gwildors_gill_slits, (edited )

Another unpopular opinion I have is that spider-man 2 is pretty good, but not on the level people seem to put it on. The train fight is good, the overall plot is decent, Alfred Molina is a good choice as Doc Ok, but the whole split personality thing came across to me as kind of cheesy. At least Willem Dafoe’s scenery chewing in the first movie was highly entertaining.

fsxylo, (edited )

Blade runner 2049 was a boring slideshow of backdrops with the “bwaaa” music overlaying it and occasionally plot happened. What plot is that? I don’t fucking remember.

Streetdog,

The OG Blade Runner is one of my favorite movies. The 2049 sequel might as well have been a freebie with a box of cereal. Just a marketing gimmick.

TotallynotJessica,
@TotallynotJessica@lemmy.world avatar

Damn. This comment is more insulting than the first one.

FuglyTheBear,

Ill upvote you, because its an appropriatly unpopular opinion, but ill have you know I’m truly offended.

ours,

Painfully upvotes

Sir_Simon_Spamalot,

Tenet is a great movie!

kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E,

Uncontroversal.

Sir_Simon_Spamalot,

Really? A lot of people seem to hate it for some reason…

SRo,

Yeah because it’s shit

hightrix,

I think that’s an internet bubble phenomenon.

When I hear that movie mentioned in real life, it is always to rave reviews.

echodot, (edited )

Really? I could finish it.

Christopher Nolan is a director who is fine when he is sort of contained but if you don’t contain him he tends to go off on random tangents that don’t really lead anywhere and the movie just becomes this kind of incoherent nonsense.

This skit absolutely nails the problem with some of his films

hakunawazo,

!eivom taerg a si teneT

NotPersonal,

I loved 99% of that movie. Except the bad guy. I try not to focus too much on bad dialogue but some of the lines he has on the final phone talk is so bad it really damages the movie. But it also has one of my favourite lines of the last 5 years.

“What’s happened happened, which is an expression of faith in the mechanics of the word. It’s not an excuse to do nothing.”

I fucking love that moment.

nyakojiru,
@nyakojiru@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Most of my film opinions

Witchfire, (edited )
@Witchfire@lemmy.world avatar

I enjoyed Sucker Punch. I’ll admit it’s very male gazey, but it’s still a fun movie and has a killer soundtrack (am a woman)

callouscomic,

Honestly I think it has a good story about women taking control for themselves even in situations where it seems like they have no control.

Buffaloaf,

I think the problem with Sucker Punch was no one really knew what it was about before watching it and ended up being like “this is fucking weird”. If you look at everything as though it’s from inside the mind of someone who was just lobotomized then it’s pretty good, imo.

Witchfire, (edited )
@Witchfire@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah I love the story and the layers of inception, but I think most people missed those details. I call it Alice in Wonderland with machine guns

quams69,

The musical sequence with love is the drug with Oscar Isaac is amazing, the soundtrack is so much fun.

Marin_Rider, (edited )

Vegas Vacation is the best of the original National Lampoon vacation movies

it has peak Eddie, great meta commentary on the series, Clark being exposed as the shitcunt he really is, and a hilarious side plot with Wayne newton.

I love Christmas vacation but we always watch Vegas every Christmas too

callouscomic,

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