What is a nifty little feature modern gadgets have lost?
For me it’s the notification light you used to find on older phones, was particularly good to know if your phone was charged without picking it up
For me it’s the notification light you used to find on older phones, was particularly good to know if your phone was charged without picking it up
Emerald, (edited ) Oh yes the notification light was incredible. I had one on my Pixel 2 XL. I just switched phones like a week ago to a Nord N200 and it doesn’t have one. Not too big of a deal though.
I wish phones still had IR blasters but those are long gone. It would be awesome to control my Edifier speakers with my phone as a remote control.
Edifier RC10E (Unofficial remote control for Edifier R1280DB speakers) f-droid.org/packages/ir.remote.edifier.rc10e/
Edit: Also how about a good camera? All mid range and low end phones today have like 3 or 4 mediocre cameras because it looks fancier then having 1 nice camera.
tourniquet, I believe almost all phones from Xiaomi’s budget Redmi series still have IR blasters today.
cation, still using my four year old redmi note 8 and yeah, the ir thing works well. I like xiaomi phones because they are so customizable, you can install custom OS and root it quite easily.
Chee_Koala, Switchbot has some " phone to IR " solutions on the cheap, might be just what you are looking for eu.switch-bot.com/products/switchbot-hub-mini
Emerald, (edited ) Back when phones had ir blasters you wouldn’t need a proprietary app to use them. The switchbot hub sounds like an iot nightmare
fastandcurious, All midrange and low end phones today have like 3 or 4 mediocre cameras because it looks fancier than having 1
The pixel a series does that right, also i would prefer two, 1inch sensors with 26mm and 50mm focal lengths, i rarely use telephoto or ultrawides (purely because Of the bad quality)but it seems like I am in a minority
mcepl, Size. I really don’t like the current 6”+ phones. The last phone I really liked was Google Nexus 5, because it had just 5" display.
xor, Man I miss my old Nexus 5, best phone the goog ever made imo
intensely_human, Speaking of goog, I remember when I could text to googl to ask questions and get directions.
000, (edited ) Physical keyboards. I want a modern Blackberry that actually gets some half-assed OS support. Unihertz Titan was a neat one but had some quirks.
mack7400, Preach. I still rock my Key2LE, and will probably get another NOS one if this one dies. Which might be a while, because it’s still fine after 6 years.
joe_cool, True, I loved my Symbian E61i.
MeanEYE, So much this. I’d love Blackberry Passport but with modern Android. I don’t mind it being wide, I just need a good keyboard which I use far more than designers think.
conciselyverbose, I want a case that slides a keyboard out from the bottom of my horizontal iPhone so bad.
intensely_human, How hard is it to get into the phone game in terms of regulatory stuff? Like if I had the device designed and manufacturing ready to go, what legal hoops would I have to jump through to become a phone maker?
Is it a closed space? Can I enter it? Do I need to register with FTC or get other huge corps to cooperate with me or anything?
thenewred, The ability to reach every part of the screen with the thumb on the hand holding it
John, Small Flagship Android Phones. Im just not a big fan of phones which doesnt fit into pockets :(
ZigZyx, Asus Zenphone? I’m not sure if it’s absolutely top notch specs but every review I’ve ever seen for it loves it. And it’s tiny. I love my phones as big as possible so I’ve never tried it but I’ve always wanted a bigger version of it so that I could.
jcubes, Software support is quite a downside though. Asus is not great at supporting their Zenphones in comparison to other manufacturers. You only get around 2 years of OS updates (and 4 years of security updates? I guess it differs for each phone a little) The hardware looks great, but this was the reason to not buy it for me as I usually use phone for 4-5 years.
John, Im into privacy and longterm Hardware support. So i hope for another small pixel or maybe a fairphone in a decent size
archonet, I just got a Pixel 8, it’s pretty small.
jetsetdorito, I went with the Pixel 8 Pro, I do really love the extra camera features, but the phone is just so big. I was using a regular Pixel 8 the other day and it was so comfy.
CaptainArcher, Do you have tiny pockets or something? My Galaxy S22 Ultra fits in my front and back pockets with no issue at all, with an Otterbox on it.
John, (edited ) Of course it depends on body size and style of trousers you prefer. If you rock Cargo pants you will have no issues for sure :D Ask a female friend for example, i guess lot of them cannot fit a modern phone into there pockets
paultimate14, A lot of what I’m seeing here is included on my Sony Xperia.
Headphone jack, notification light, SD card.
I do miss having a replaceable battery like my older LG phones had and stereo fromt-firing speakers like my HTC One M8.
Emi621, Replaceable battery is gonna be mandatory for phones in the future so that’s good.
skai, I love the Sony phones. If they sold the Xperia 5 V in my market (or even if the global version was compatible with my carrier’s G5 bands . . . ) I would probably buy it in a second. They seem to be deliberately betting on only releasing the 1 V in some wealthier markets though (likely because the 5 V would undercut demand) – but I refuse to spend 1 V prices with only a couple years of guaranteed updates.
Sony phones though are by far my favourite on the market these days, and it’s a shame that they aren’t more popular (or have enough developer interest to have LineageOS support).
original_reader, This is why I still buy Sony. If they don’t change this, plus add replaceable batteries, which they have to… most is good.
Still miss FM radio, though.
And double tap to wake.
MeanEYE, I miss phone bodies being plastic. Sure, metal feels premium but you can’t drop your phone without leaving a permanent mark on it. Not to mention how stupid the idea of having glass background is. These days it’s hard to see a phone whose glass is not messed up.
To be honest, peak design for me was Samsung’s Galaxy S2. I loved that device. Thin, very light, perfect size for my hands. I’d kill for something like that but upgraded to modern standards. I’d also love to see devices with physical keyboard. I waited for BB Key3 to come out when they decided to discontinue the line. Ended up with yet another Samsung device.
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MeanEYE, I’ve ran into Uniherz, among others, when I was looking for a new device with keyboard. Titan is a nice concept, but it’s too big and bulky. Titan Slim wasn’t available at the time, but it seems like a more reasonable device for my use case. However I do worry about lack of software updates and third party support. If either was available, then I wouldn’t have an issue. But this way am on a mercy of their software development team to give me patches in timely manner.
Tramdan, Lack of notch
Emerald, It just occured to me I have never had a phone with a notch.
arin, One plus 7 pro was the last best phone without a notch
GiddyGap, Many phones have no notch. Just a small camera hole.
andrew, My 2001 flip phone could schedule sms messages to be sent and it took smartphones a decade ish to add that feature.
nycki, A built-in scripting language. The TI-83 line of calculators have an app programming language that requires you to side-load code from another computer, but they also have TI-BASIC, which allows you to write a wide variety of scripts right on the calculator itself. This should be standard on all ‘smart’ devices. It’s so stupid to have gigahertz of computing power in your pocket and not be able to do anything without writing the app on another machine.
I know Termux for Android exists and that’s a good start, but I’d like to see something baked right into the OS that has access to all my device’s cool sensors and gizmos. The camera, the microphone, the aux port, the usb port, the accelerometer, the bluetooth antenna… all of those things should be exposed to the user. This would be a really good use case for ‘visual’ programming ala Scratch, since you could assemble a script right from a touch screen instead of having to plug in a keyboard.
lemmyvore, (edited ) Tasker? I feel like it comes pretty close to what you describe.
nycki, Device automation is neat, but I mean more like data processing, web APIs, python stuff.
lemmefixdat4u, Try Kustom Widget (KWGT). It’s a scripted mini app maker that exposes a lot of the phone internals, and it keeps expanding. The developer is really responsive to feature requests. I use it with my home weather station and a pi-based sensor network to monitor home security. When I get my solar installed, I’ll add in the status of that system. The major limitation is that KWGT is event driven, with a minimum update interval of once a second. This interval has a major impact on battery life, so the default is one minute.
nycki, Hrm; I use the Minimalist Home phone screen so I have no widgets; is there a way to launch scripts from a regular app?
sagrotan, I’m totally with you! You, Sir or Madam, are an individual of style and character.
UdeRecife, The rotary disc on phones!
Liz, While I’m downright chuckling at the desire to go back to rotary phones, I gotta appreciate that there’s always someone who liked things better the old way.
Drz,
UdeRecife, Thanks for the necessary XKCD. First time reading that one.
Well, to be honest, I won’t be THAT guy, nor am I crazy to bring back the rotary disk.
pvr, If you’re serious: skysedge.com/telecom/RUSP/index.html
UdeRecife, Thanks!
And no, I’m not serious. Just reminding that technology, like everything else, changes.
But I loved that project! Made me smile thinking how creative people are.
Rolive, Grandma? Nice to see you figured out Lemmy.
zewu, Aren’t notification LEDs somewhat obsolete now that we have always on displays? One advantage could be that they are less power hungry than keeping the screen / touch panel alive all the time. But in theory one could just create a permanent “notification LED” with an always on display, then it’s the same thing from a user’s perspective.
PlutoniumAcid, Always on? Bah! It wears out the screen and drains the battery.
My Sammy S10 can barely last a day even with most things off. My Sammy watch also lasts maybe 22 hours.
When do we finally get devices that can run for three weeks?
zewu, (edited ) Smartphones are already insanely energy efficient. But instead of tuning them for longer battery life, companies kept pushing for faster processing, higher resolutions and refresh rates in the last few years. Now there’s diminishing returns (imo 4k on a 6" device is just absurd) so I expect future devices to double down on energy efficiency. But then maybe companies just end up decreasing the battery’s capacity for lower weight…
PlutoniumAcid, Yeah. I would pay extra for a phone that is a few millimeters thicker but runs for three days! I can’t be the only one??
foggy, Buttons.
Blue_Morpho, I loved the old Windows CE phones. You got a dpad, buttons on the front, and side buttons. All frequently used apps were instant at the button press. No nonsense of turning on phone, unlock, look carefully before clicking app on touch screen because you can’t physically feel the button.
foggy, Samsung blackjack Ii was the peak of cell phone innovation.
yojimbo, Full qwerty keyboard. I know I am a minority. I don’t need more screen estate, I need to be able to make notes in my diary whithout looking on the screen and not bumping into things while I am walking. I’ve tried the Uniherz offers, but the OS and the quality is really sub-par. I’ve jumped on the Astroslide train, but the manufacturing batches went south over the Covid and I don’t blame the Astro guys for not getting my device. Some US company did buy the BlackBerry licence and I was ready to pay any price for their phone - but they failed to manufacture anything. If only you could jailbreak BlackBerry Key 2 - I’d be carrying it proudly around till today. (written on Google Pixel 6 runnning Graphene with a collabsible pocket bluetooth keyboard - so I can type at least while I am not moving - best among terrible options).
ZombieMantis, Replaceable battery, micro SD card slots are hard to come by these days, too.
chitak166, What happened to the notification light?
My Orbic Myra 5G has one, and I got it for free.
blazeknave, Late nineties ,early aughts… Did you used to mod Nokia bricks and early Motorola flip phones? (Razr iirc) Used to get blinking LEDs, replace the antennas with them, clear batteries that had flashing lights. Pretty much the OG RGB
lone_faerie, They were replaced by “always on” OLED displays. When I turn my phone off, the screen still displays the time and notifications. The beauty of OLED is that each pixel is its own LED, so only a portion of the screen needs to be powered. Essentially, the whole display is the new notification light.
hark, Is there any issue with burn-in?
lone_faerie, None that I’ve noticed. The elements occasionally move around to help prevent burn-in
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