What is a nifty little feature modern gadgets have lost?
For me it’s the notification light you used to find on older phones, was particularly good to know if your phone was charged without picking it up
For me it’s the notification light you used to find on older phones, was particularly good to know if your phone was charged without picking it up
gedaliyah, Kinda surprised that no one has mentioned the FM tuner. For reasons I never really understood, a lot of companies continued to build the hardware into phones but then wall it off with firmware.
My first MP3 player had one, my TV had one, there were even watches and lots of other devices that had one. People still listen to radio, so why don’t they give us a tuner?
Peppycito, Data sellers probably paid them to turn it off.
CosmicTurtle, Are you sure the hardware is still there? I only ask because given the number of hackers out there, I’m surprised someone hasn’t come out with a patch or something to make it more ubiquitous.
ArbiterXero, A lot of it isn’t there anymore….
But because it was a hardware thing, the patch would involve rooting your phone, something most people won’t do.
gedaliyah, I don’t know if they still have it, but this was a well-known problem for a long time.
Aux, It’s not strictly there as a separate feature. Modern radio chips in phones are universal programmable radios, they can catch and process any wavelengths if you install correct code into them and plug a correct antenna. The same radio chip processes your 5G, Bluetooth, WiFi and everything else.
What phones are missing are FM antennas and radio firmware with FM support. This FM support is a paid feature for phone makers, so they don’t add it.
FerbFletcher, i think I recall that the Bluetooth hardware is essentially an FM tuner. Just needed a wired headphone to use as an antenna. My Moto Stylus 2022 still has it.
I_Miss_Daniel, Mostly because they needed a wired headset to act as the FM antenna since it needs a decent length to capture FM compared to the much higher UHF and GHz frequencies that the mobile network uses.
I_Miss_Daniel, Mostly because they needed a wired headset to act as the FM antenna since it needs a decent length to capture FM compared to the much higher UHF and GHz frequencies that the mobile network uses.
DudeDudenson, Wouldn’t you be able to use the coil for wireless charging as a pretty okay antenna?
PM_Your_Nudes_Please, Imagine blowing out your phone speakers because you put your phone on the charger while listening to the radio.
Typically speaking, it’s a bad idea to use power sources as an antenna. Because power pushes a lot more amps than something like a radio signal.
andrew, I mean, we have incredibly simple circuits that can limit amplitude.
PM_Your_Nudes_Please, My point is that any sort of radio would be immediately drowned out by the massive amounts of EM interference as soon as you tried to charge.
In fact, professional audio devices often have to take extra precautions to avoid their power cables from becoming accidental antennas; Anyone who used a cheap set of computer speakers back in the 2000’s and 2010’s will know the distinct buzzing pattern that preceded a text message or phone call. That’s because cheap speakers would use unshielded power sources, and simple circuitry which didn’t bother to isolate the amplifier from the power.
DudeDudenson, You could just not allow the user to use the FM tuner while wireless charging
Natanael, You probably want the NFC antenna for that instead of Qi coils
TheInsane42, They solved the ,issing FM tuner by pushing DAB+. (Yeah, + so users can’t record from radio)
yamanii, If the phone has a headphone jack, it probably has that FM tuner.
Aux,
0x2d, It is commonly a thing in budget mediatek devices
UdeRecife, The rotary disc on phones!
Liz, While I’m downright chuckling at the desire to go back to rotary phones, I gotta appreciate that there’s always someone who liked things better the old way.
Drz,
UdeRecife, Thanks for the necessary XKCD. First time reading that one.
Well, to be honest, I won’t be THAT guy, nor am I crazy to bring back the rotary disk.
pvr, If you’re serious: skysedge.com/telecom/RUSP/index.html
UdeRecife, Thanks!
And no, I’m not serious. Just reminding that technology, like everything else, changes.
But I loved that project! Made me smile thinking how creative people are.
Rolive, Grandma? Nice to see you figured out Lemmy.
books, Physical keyboards.
I loathe typing on my phone. My texts are unreadable a vast majority of the time
RavenFellBlade, Wow, I had forgotten about how much I loved these. My favorite phone ever was the HTC G2. LOVED that keyboard!
MDKAOD, (edited ) My wife had a super cool phone that would slide up to reveal a full keyboard. Really slick. Her favorite phone to this day, her Nexus 5 was a close second.
Edit: Samsung gravity 3
Emerald, I use thumb-key to make typing on the phone more accurate. It works pretty nicely
books, Is that an app?
Emerald, Yep. It’s actually made by a lemmy dev.
books, Any videos of use? And why is it 20 bucks in the play store?
Emerald, Idk why its $20 in the play store, get it from f-droid.
f-droid.org/packages/com.dessalines.thumbkey/
can’t do a handcam right now but here it is in use
MeanEYE, I miss phone bodies being plastic. Sure, metal feels premium but you can’t drop your phone without leaving a permanent mark on it. Not to mention how stupid the idea of having glass background is. These days it’s hard to see a phone whose glass is not messed up.
To be honest, peak design for me was Samsung’s Galaxy S2. I loved that device. Thin, very light, perfect size for my hands. I’d kill for something like that but upgraded to modern standards. I’d also love to see devices with physical keyboard. I waited for BB Key3 to come out when they decided to discontinue the line. Ended up with yet another Samsung device.
spraynpray, (edited ) deleted_by_author
MeanEYE, I’ve ran into Uniherz, among others, when I was looking for a new device with keyboard. Titan is a nice concept, but it’s too big and bulky. Titan Slim wasn’t available at the time, but it seems like a more reasonable device for my use case. However I do worry about lack of software updates and third party support. If either was available, then I wouldn’t have an issue. But this way am on a mercy of their software development team to give me patches in timely manner.
calypsopub, Printers that work.
garretble, When have printers ever worked?
WhosMansIsThis, Bro they legit never worked. It was all marketing.
ShortFuse, (edited ) What’s kinda crazy is we could reimplement the notification LED with blue OLED now just via software. Just no one has done it.
Edit: It’s been done, but a quick Google search says it no longer works. I might get bored and write one.
Edit2: This one seems to be working fine for me.
But_Class_War, (edited ) That was one of my favorite features of the Nexus one. Didn’t really need the track ball but being able to customize the color of notification light (I forget if that needed root or not) based on app was great. I’m guessing it must have been persistent blinking otherwise my current edge lighting notification would scratch the same itch, couldn’t be just nostalgia on my part…
HiddenLychee, All the reviews seem to say it doesn’t work on p6pro. What phone do you use?
ShortFuse, Pixel 8
DudeDudenson, Wouldn’t that cause burn in?
owatnext, (edited ) I don’t have a AOD enabled on my phone, but I’m pretty sure most AOD elements like this flash and/or move slightly to reduce risk of burn in.
Edit: by flash, I mean more of like “pulse” or “breathe”.
Reverendender, I was not able to find one for iphone
mwalimu, FM receiver on phones + 3.5mn jack was a crucial source of local radio transmissions. I suspect some phones still ship radio receivers but the popular types like Samsungs and iPhones don’t seem to care (or perhaps that competes with their music and podcast markets).
0xb0b, Here in Italy since 2020 it’s not legal to sell a device that has an FM receiver if that device doesn’t also have a DAB/DAB+ receiver, so many companies have been shipping software updates that disabled the FM receiver app even if they were compliant on older phones. Kinda sucks.
mwalimu, That sucks! As long as a device can decode the signals, I don’t see why they should phase it out just to be compatible with DAB+ (especially when infrastructural costs are not a major factor).
chitak166, What happened to the notification light?
My Orbic Myra 5G has one, and I got it for free.
blazeknave, Late nineties ,early aughts… Did you used to mod Nokia bricks and early Motorola flip phones? (Razr iirc) Used to get blinking LEDs, replace the antennas with them, clear batteries that had flashing lights. Pretty much the OG RGB
lone_faerie, They were replaced by “always on” OLED displays. When I turn my phone off, the screen still displays the time and notifications. The beauty of OLED is that each pixel is its own LED, so only a portion of the screen needs to be powered. Essentially, the whole display is the new notification light.
hark, Is there any issue with burn-in?
lone_faerie, None that I’ve noticed. The elements occasionally move around to help prevent burn-in
Jahuffine, IR blaster. I could control just about anything in my house with my old Galaxy S6. Made it so convenient to have a universal remote built into the phone. Especially when you end up in a hotel or at a friend’s house and can’t find a remote.
joe_cool, Oh, my HTC One M8 had that. Really miss it for the IR Blaster and the air pressure sensor. You always had a really good weather station in your pocket.
Adalast, I used to love having one of these while I was in college. I would use it whenever I went into the cafeteria for lunch and they had Cartoon Network on on the TV and Teen Titans NO was on. Yes, I know what I did. It is the only appropriate title for that steaming pile of radioactive waste.
It was also fun to mess with other public TVs when they thought that nobody would have the ability to change the channel.
Emerald, (edited ) Oh yes the notification light was incredible. I had one on my Pixel 2 XL. I just switched phones like a week ago to a Nord N200 and it doesn’t have one. Not too big of a deal though.
I wish phones still had IR blasters but those are long gone. It would be awesome to control my Edifier speakers with my phone as a remote control.
Edifier RC10E (Unofficial remote control for Edifier R1280DB speakers) f-droid.org/packages/ir.remote.edifier.rc10e/
Edit: Also how about a good camera? All mid range and low end phones today have like 3 or 4 mediocre cameras because it looks fancier then having 1 nice camera.
tourniquet, I believe almost all phones from Xiaomi’s budget Redmi series still have IR blasters today.
cation, still using my four year old redmi note 8 and yeah, the ir thing works well. I like xiaomi phones because they are so customizable, you can install custom OS and root it quite easily.
Chee_Koala, Switchbot has some " phone to IR " solutions on the cheap, might be just what you are looking for eu.switch-bot.com/products/switchbot-hub-mini
Emerald, (edited ) Back when phones had ir blasters you wouldn’t need a proprietary app to use them. The switchbot hub sounds like an iot nightmare
fastandcurious, All midrange and low end phones today have like 3 or 4 mediocre cameras because it looks fancier than having 1
The pixel a series does that right, also i would prefer two, 1inch sensors with 26mm and 50mm focal lengths, i rarely use telephoto or ultrawides (purely because Of the bad quality)but it seems like I am in a minority
zewu, Aren’t notification LEDs somewhat obsolete now that we have always on displays? One advantage could be that they are less power hungry than keeping the screen / touch panel alive all the time. But in theory one could just create a permanent “notification LED” with an always on display, then it’s the same thing from a user’s perspective.
PlutoniumAcid, Always on? Bah! It wears out the screen and drains the battery.
My Sammy S10 can barely last a day even with most things off. My Sammy watch also lasts maybe 22 hours.
When do we finally get devices that can run for three weeks?
zewu, (edited ) Smartphones are already insanely energy efficient. But instead of tuning them for longer battery life, companies kept pushing for faster processing, higher resolutions and refresh rates in the last few years. Now there’s diminishing returns (imo 4k on a 6" device is just absurd) so I expect future devices to double down on energy efficiency. But then maybe companies just end up decreasing the battery’s capacity for lower weight…
PlutoniumAcid, Yeah. I would pay extra for a phone that is a few millimeters thicker but runs for three days! I can’t be the only one??
thecookingsenpai, That crackling sound you had on your calls back in the analogic era. Not sure is a feature but made calls more warm.
n3m37h, Not to mention the cross talk communications you could have
MrsDoyle, It was a build-up of something or other (carbon?) on the microphone part of the caller’s handset. You could fix it by tapping the handset sharply on a hard surface. Source: I used to work in radio back in the 80s.
thecookingsenpai, Wow I am fascinated a lot by the radio’s world, especially pre-digital era. Hope to never meet me irl or i’ll ask questions for a couple of hours lel
WookieMonster, I miss tether points. We have these super expensive, slippery devices and we have to stick something like a pop socket onto them to be able to get a good grip on them. I used to have these little dangly thumb loops that if I dropped my phone, it would just dangle there instead of slamming into the ground. It’s very minor, but I don’t understand why they don’t have them anymore.
WetBeardHairs, Oh damn I want one now. I’ve gone caseless since my last case disintegrated and I really prefer it this way now. But a tether would be a welcome addition.
SnipingNinja, I am sure it’s because phone companies don’t want to deal with designing, manufacturing, design defects, warranty claims if it fails, etc.
I do wonder if it can’t be done better with programmable magnets, locking one of those in place from the bottom of the device might be interesting.
Natanael, You you mean electropermanent magnets?
SnipingNinja, Idk if that’s another name for them, but what I meant was polymagnets
Natanael, Those use arrays of electropermanent magnets
SnipingNinja, (edited ) Aah cool, interesting
Edit: let me pick your brain regarding them as it seems you know more about them, is it feasible? What I described that is
Natanael, A lot of cases have those still, plus industrial some phones have it built in
Donebrach, That just triggered a memory of my old dumb phone and its little dangly “hello kitty in samurai armor riding a tiger” charm. I don’t really care that current mobile devices don’t have those tie off points because as others have stated you can get cases that include them but thanks for reminding me of that old bauble.
wowwoweowza, 3.5 headphone jack
Tattorack, Came here to say this.
Guajojo, I swear phone manufacturers have gradually made the audio jack worse on phones just for the justification of dropping it.
cottonmon, Sony seems to be the only company making high-end phones with the 3.5 headphone jack. Unfortunately, their firmware is kind of weird with them not activating 5G on certain regions.
jtk, Apps like Garage Band are completely useless over Bluetooth.
squeakycat, I too miss the LED notification light. If you have an amoled display, check this out:
barcaxavi, That’s really cool, thanks!
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