Rhynoplaz,

Elvis. Just to see what happens.

AmosBurton,

If we are going down that road. What if the Beatles never happened

Susaga,
@Susaga@ttrpg.network avatar

We’ve had that movie. Now let’s see the Elvis one.

givesomefucks,

Nothing.

Elvis didn’t invent anything musically, he was just the first white guy to do what Black guys had been doing.

If it wasn’t Elvis, it would have been someone else a couple months later.

someguy3,

Well maybe he was the one with the charisma to do what black guys were doing.

AtariDump, (edited )

“Though I’m not the first king of controversy
I am the worst thing since Elvis Presley
To do Black music so selfishly
And use it to get myself wealthy (Hey!)
There’s a concept that works
Twenty million other white rappers emerge
But no matter how many fish in the sea
It’d be so empty without me” - Eminem

Rhynoplaz,

Actually, that was one thing I considered. If he hadn’t become a superstar by never writing a single song, would it have changed the industry’s thoughts on using pretty faces to sell other people’s songs?

sangriaferret,

A lot more piano probably.

Jerry Lee Lewis was poised to be one of the first white rock and roll superstars until his career was rocked with scandal. Had that happened it is very possible that the piano would become the predominant instrument in white rock.

The genre already has its roots in jump blues and boogie woogie, both piano driven styles. Little Richard and Fats Domino were at the top of the charts.

Had a piano player been the king of white rock then you would have likely seen a lot more artists picking up that instrument rather than the guitar.

Tippon,

Nah, guitar is the musical equivalent to football (soccer). It’s cheap, easy to learn, you can take it with you, and you can play with your friends.

The trope of a kid turning up with their guitar couldn’t happen with a piano.

sangriaferret,

You’re right. I shouldn’t have suggested that the piano would be more popular than guitar, only that you might have heard a lot more piano if Jerry Lee had been the face of white rock instead of Elvis.

People are going to play whatever they can get their hands on. I remember reading in a Muddy Waters biography about someone who started off writing songs using an old piano wire attached to a shack because that’s all he had available.

Tippon,

Nothing wrong with suggesting a different idea :)

It would have been cool to watch 90’s kids humping pianos to band practice with their friends though :D

BottleOfAlkahest,

Jerry Lee Lewis became fairly successful in Country after his Rock career faltered. Most country musicians still play the guitar rather than the piano though.

sangriaferret,

True, but many of country’s conventions were well established when he got into it. When he got into rock it was new, especially white rock. I think he would have a more significant influence there.

lemmy_nightmare,
@lemmy_nightmare@sh.itjust.works avatar

Justin

corsicanguppy,

Timberlake, Bieber, or the Canadian PM who kept the country from bankruptcy despite the blinkered conservatives and their expendable constituents trying to kill the country and all its inhabitants on the daily?

Sagifurius,

On what fucking planet…That PM has been the ruination of this country.

No_Ones_Slick_Like_Gaston,

Obviously Justin Vernon, also known as Bon Iver. Let’s see them hipsters without their leader.

Jerb322,
@Jerb322@lemmy.world avatar

Corey Feldman

ultranaut,

Ted Nugent. He is just a complete scumbag and without his shitty music career he never would have impacted so many people with his gross bullshit. The world would be better off if his music never existed.

slurpeesoforion,

That would likely have the benefit of saving us from Kid Rock too.

kinther,
@kinther@lemmy.world avatar

I was about to give the example of Ted Nugent in the body of the post because he’s just such a douche. I’m glad I’m not the only one who thought the same.

Lorindol,

Nugent is a truly despisable creature, but his playing in Amboy Dukes’ “Journey to the Center of the Mind” album is very good.

A_Random_Idiot, (edited )

Ted Nugent deserves to have more than just his career erased. Fucking admitted pedophile piece of shit.

jordanlund,
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

Milli Vanilli

LinkOpensChest_wav,

I can’t help but think that Rob may still be alive if it hadn’t been for their musical career. What a sad story.

AtariDump,

On 3 April 1998, on the eve of a promotional tour for a new Milli Vanilli album, Back and in Attack, featuring Pilatus and Morvan on lead vocals, Pilatus was found dead from an alcohol and prescription drug overdose in a hotel room at Friedrichsdorf, near Frankfurt. His death was ruled accidental. The album has never been released.

LinkOpensChest_wav,

Yeah … they weren’t even a genre I really listened to at the time, but the whole thing’s just so sad

ChicoSuave,

Outside the box: Robert Elliot, a charter pilot who flew and killed Jim Croce by crashing into a tree on takeoff. Pilot error was found to be the cause as the overweight 57 year old pilot was unable to drive to the airport so ran for 3 miles, from his motel to the hangar, to be on time for the flight. The run exacerbated his coronary artery disease, causing him to tunnel vision and not see the tree.

smort,
@smort@lemmy.world avatar

Similar story, when I was 12 I was late for the school bus and ran about 2 blocks with a full backpack and a snare drum. Ended up puking in the bus aisle about halfway through the hour long ride. Basically the same thing.

acetanilide,

Wasn’t sure if I should believe you or not, so I looked it up

…I’m still not sure if I can believe this

Boozilla,
@Boozilla@lemmy.world avatar

Richard Wagner.

Microw,

Michael Jackson. Having his career fail during the childhood “Jackson 5” phase. Better for him and a lotta other people.

Doorbook,

Last i remember he would play with kids but didn’t sexually abuse them. Was there any more infor came out?

MrPoopyButthole,

Oh boy, yeah, a lot more came out about it. There’s actually been a lot over the years, but a few years ago a pretty serious documentary came out about it. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leaving_Neverland

13esq,

He asked them to show their butt holes and masturbated in front of them, so not as severe as rape but definitely sexual abuse (allegedly).

What swung it for me is when Louis Theroux said that anyone claiming he’s not a pedophile is in denial. If you’re willing to look the other way because “he made great music though”, then shame on you.

frostysauce,

He asked them to show their butt holes and masturbated in front of them

Yeah, gonna need a source on that…

13esq, (edited )

A documentary called “Leaving Neverland”.

It’s available to watch on Netflix and Amazon Prime. I watched this honestly with a mind that wasn’t just open, but sceptical with a view that some “hangers on” were just after a quick payday and I ended up feeling pretty sick.

neidu2, (edited )

I’m on the fence about him, as I haven’t really dug into it, but i get the impression that it’s mostly allegations without proof. His sister made some outlandish claims, but her credibility has been called intoquestion.

There were some settlements/payoffs, but I’m not going to speculate whether that was for covering something up, or if it was an attempt at appeasing people who just wanted a quick buck.

It can be said with certainty that he liked being around kids, possibly in a purely innocent manner. Anything beyond that is hard to say for certain. And the stories about kids sharing bedroom with him often fail to take into account that his bedroom was larger than most houses.

LodeMike,

I’ve heard people say it was Peter Pan Syndrome.

Infynis,
@Infynis@midwest.social avatar

Journey

Joker,

All excellent suggestions here. I’m adding Lost Prophets to the list. Maybe don’t look them up if you don’t already know.

TastyWheat,

Mariah Carey. I work retail. If you know, you know.

Dagwood222,

I worked retail for exactly one Christmas. The day I worked the toy department they had one album on repeat for eight hours. I hated Christmas music for years, and now it just annoys me.

XEAL,

Yoko Ono

mynamesnotrick,

Eeeeeeee oooooooooo eeeeeeeeeeeee oooooooooo eeeeee - oko nono

solrize, (edited )

I won’t say his name but I stopped someone’s musical career once. He was an up and coming young guitarist, getting performing gigs here and there, and teaching guitar students to help pay his bills while waiting for a break. I took some lessons from him and as part of general chatting it came out that I worked with computers. He thought that was interesting and asked good questions, so I brought him some programming books. He became a full time programmer a couple months later and a very good one too. I’m glad it worked out for him, but I always wonder what we lost.

SeabassDan,

Which books? Also, how long ago was this?

solrize,

This was decades ago. I don’t remember the specific books but they were about programming in C. By now that is considered a neckbeard language. The first thing the guy did, with like zero experience, was write a video compression program in C.

Empricorn,

Did… Did you create Bill Gates and Windows??

solrize,

Nah, Windows was supposedly inspired by NASCAR. Bill saw how people loved seeing constant crashes, and he got an idea…

myfavouritename,

My coach used to tell the story of a really promising track and field athlete who might have had a serious shot on the world scene, but quit to play in his band called The Barenaked Ladies. I never fact checked that, so I have no idea if it was true or not. But it stuck with me because it made me think of all the people who might have been incredible in one field or another who just never gave it a shot.

Dagwood222,

“Ike At The Mike” by Howard Waldrop. Award winning short story. An elderly Dwight Eisenhower is invited to the White House. Ike famously gave up his West Point cadetship to become a jazz musician. Among the attendees honoring him is the young Elvis A. Presley, Senator from Mississippi.

Grayox,
@Grayox@lemmy.ml avatar

Johann Sebastian Bach

kinther,
@kinther@lemmy.world avatar

Why Bach?

Grayox,
@Grayox@lemmy.ml avatar

Because he was so influential it would have untold interesting ripple effects.

minibyte,

I nearly said Chuck Berry for that reason.

whostosay,

MFs out here speedrunning any% no music runs

BodePlotHole,

Tool.

The band itself is fine. Their fans however…

kinther,
@kinther@lemmy.world avatar

This one hurt me as a Tool fan

Anamnesis,

Went to a Tool concert ahout six months ago. It was pretty clear that they were not fans of their fans.

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