Have you ever seen coal burn? If yes, why?
In person I mean.
*Sigh. Not charcoal. Real coal.
In person I mean.
*Sigh. Not charcoal. Real coal.
Vanth, (edited ) Charcoal for cooking on a grill is most frequent and normal. (Yes, I know charcoal briquettes are not pure coal, but some do contain coal as an additive).
Because of schooling and work, I’ve seen it burned in power plants and burned it myself in a laboratory setting (comparing bituminous to anthracite to others). My sister volunteers at a historical blacksmith shop, they have a couple different demonstration furnaces and one burns coal. There’s also a steam engine demonstrator that runs on coal, but they don’t fire that one up very often.
When I was a little kid, so young my memories are very hazy, i was taken to see the sod house my great grandma grew up in before it was torn down. They used coal for heating.
someguy3, (edited ) Do bituminous and anthracite burn differently? Visually or otherwise?
If you’re in the field maybe your can also say how you pronounce bituminous. I’ve always heard bitch-you-min-us, but I recently heard beh-tu-min-us.
Vanth, (edited ) I’ve heard bi-tuminous. Hard “I”, like in bi-cycle. And bit-uminous, soft “I” like in “he bit into the apple”.
I have never heard the “t” turned into a “tch” sound.
And you don’t even have to burn them to see a difference. You can see and feel it.
someguy3, (edited ) It might be more bich-you-min-us.
So what’s the difference in coals? I’m actually interested if and how they visually burn differently.
Turbofish, I’d never really considered that people might not have seen coal burn.
In Ireland both coal and turf are still fairly common as the primary method of heating. That said they are “trying” to phase it out.
someguy3, Since we produce a lot of NG around here that’s what we use for heating. But we always used electric clothes dryers…
Wodge, Yes. Am Welsh. Coal fires are still pretty common in the South Wales valleys. My Grandfather still gets free coal deliveries every other month due to his time working in the pits.
kaffiene, Omg they’re not phasing it out? jfc
Mamertine, As in part off his pension is free coal for life?
Wodge, Could ever have a lump sum or coal for life, he picked the coal as the cash payout was around £5000, which would cover the coal cost for about 3 years at the time. He’s been having that for over 30 years at this point, pretty good deal!
trolololol, What’s the difference?
Honytawk, (edited ) One you can mine from the ground.
The other you get by smelting oak logs in a furnace
xigoi, You can also get the former by killing wither skeletons, making it a renewable resource.
someguy3, Coal is mined out of the ground.
Charcoal is wood that has been super heated to remove the water.
lemmefixdat4u, Charcoal is wood that has been heated above combustion temperature without oxygen. That does drive off water, but it also chemically decomposes the lignin and other organics into primarily carbon while creating a volatile mixture of gasses known as woodgas.
Source: Have a woodgas generator. Byproduct is charcoal.
agent_flounder, No, but this topic sent me down a rabbit hole briefly.
You may have heard of the Marshall Fire in Boulder, Colorado that burned 1000 homes and killed two people within the city in 2021.
In the area of the point of ignition of this wildfire, an underground coal fire has been known to be burning for the past 150 years. As far as I know they still haven’t ruled it out as a possible cause.
CaptainBlagbird, They didn’t start the fire, it was always burning 🎶
SubArcticTundra, Coal stoves are still sometimes the principal source of heat for rural houses in Eastern Europe. They are slowly being phased out though.
tal, (edited ) There are apparently a few people here and there who still use it. I remember reading some article about a guy in the US who preferred it.
googles
npr.org/…/for-the-few-who-heat-homes-with-coal-it…
Every few weeks, John Ord does something unusual for most people living in 2019 — he stops by a local hardware store in rural northeastern Pennsylvania to buy coal to heat his home.
Ord’s coal-burning stove burns 24 hours a day when it’s cold. He likes the constant heat it gives off and says it’s cheaper than his other options — oil and electric.
Zonetrooper, In a steam locomotive, but a scale model one that was ridden on instead of in. It was actually pretty cool; they still hand-stoked the firebox and everything, just… really small.
someguy3, I rode one of those but it must have been gas or diesel.
stoy, Yes, I have seen and lit it several times.
I was often in charge of lighting the grill when I lived at home with my parents, we used a hot air gun to light the grill, and it worked really well, we never used lighter fluid, just hot air, and during the process you easily see flames comming up from the burning coal.
Failing that, I used to be an active member of a herritage railroad with steam trains, looking into the firebox of a steam enging you clearly see the coals burning.
Why would you not do that?
JimmyChanga, A lot of homes where I grew up still had coal fires, so yes, a lot, but its been a long while since I have seen a coal fire. Charcoal as the other commenter said i still see regularly on bbq’s .
someguy3, Where did you grow up?
deegeese, Don’t go to a lot of BBQs, I take it?
someguy3, (edited ) I’m talking real coal.
Kolanaki, (edited ) Charcoal isn’t coal. There are several types of natural coal and charcoal, and they all have slight differences in density and chemical composition; so they probably all look a bit different when burning. Just like how different brands and types of charcoal can also look slightly different when burning (such as one kind throwing off sparks while it ignites and another that doesn’t).
I’ve never seen natural coal burning. But I’ve seen at least 3 types (not just brands but actual differences in how they are made) of charcoal burn, and they all give quite a different “show” as they do.
1995ToyotaCorolla, (edited ) I don’t think I’ve ever seen coal burn, but you can find pieces of it along the abandoned railways and beaches in my area. We have a coal dock that’s been abandoned for 50 years and the ground is still black with coal dust
Edit: actually a scenic railroad in my area still has a coal fired steam locomotive so yes, I can say I’ve seen coal burn!
OneCardboardBox, As a child, Easter holiday in a cottage in Cornwall. It had a coal fireplace.
joe_archer, I have open fires in my house, it was built in the 1840s so yes.
This is very common in the uk, though in many places smokeless replacements for coal are legally required.
Hikermick, (edited ) A friend of mine bought a literal ton of coal for $75 to heat his pole barn in a wood burner that could also be used to burn coal. His chimney wasn’t tall enough and wind would drag the smoke down to ground level as it passed over the gambrel roof. It was nasty. I believe later on I learned that coal from my region is of poor quality and gets sent overseas
Chainweasel, Yeah, I grew up in a poor area in rural Ohio and we heated primary with coal until 2021.
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