XylAU, (edited )

Sorry using this as a test edit

XylAU, (edited )

cool & stuff

XylAU,

hello

XylAU,
XylAU,
XylAU,

!test

XylAU,

/c/test

XylAU,
XylAU,

@XylAU

XylAU,
XylAU,
XylAU, (edited )

wawawaawawa

awesome357,

It’s pronounced with a hard J because a soft GIF is just the post deed version of GILF…

Franzia,

ITT: lots of people who are wrong.

kamen,

Isn’t this the usual to begin with?

HiddenLayer5,
@HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml avatar

Git is now pronounced Jit.

JIT, as in the compiler architecture, is now pronounced Git.

doctorcrimson,

Not how acronyms work but I like your fire.

Furbag,

It’s pronounced Gif, with a soft G as in Graphics.

I don’t give a fuck what the idiot creator thinks it should be pronounced as, I’ll die on this hill with my honor intact, surrounded by the corpses of everyone who thinks Jif is referring to anything but peanut butter.

Molecular0079,

That’s my reasoning as well. Jif is for peanut butter, why make things extra confusing?

Dave, (edited )
@Dave@lemmy.nz avatar

But other words like SCUBA and NASA are not pronounced like the words they derive from, so this can’t be an all-encompassing rule.

ETA: Or maybe I’ve been pronouncing SCUBA and NASA wrong

SeahorseTreble,

It’s pronounced GIF (sounding out each letter), like in that ‘If Google Was A Guy’ CollegeHumor video. Just so that it doesn’t annoy or antagonise anyone for a meaningless purpose. Everyone wins.

SeahorseTreble,

Or, maybe both pronouncers (the “jiff” gang and the “giff” crowd) will team up against me for saying that. At least we’ll have harmony for most people if that’s the case, and I’ll be a sacrifice to keep the peace.

Anticorp,

GeeEyeFff?

emorytaylor,

You say soft g when you mean hard g. Hard g’s include GOAT, game, dragon, and gangster. And gif.

RedAggroBest,

What do you mean? It’s not said jraphics card?

EssentialCoffee,

That’s because it’s a hard g.

dh34d,

The peanut butter is exactly the reason he picked that pronunciation. Choosy developers choose gif.

Anticorp,

It’s pronounced jif because jraphics are his phavorite.

gnuplusmatt,

Jif is a cleaning product

cameron_vale,

Any position is coherent when you have anonymity and free time. That goes double for moderators.

ILikeBoobies, (edited )

Gif is pronounced like gist, giraffe, gibberish, ginger, and gin

Jxl is pronunciation beeg jay-peg because Jay is lucky

shea,

Take the word “gift”. Say the word, but stop before you get to the last letter. What letters did you say? What sound came out of your mouth? Case closed.

ILikeBoobies,

Take the word “applet”. Say the word, but stop before you get to the last letter. What letters did you say? What sound came out of your mouth? Case closed.

shea,

That’s still pretty close.

ILikeBoobies, (edited )

I don’t know how you say those words then

For me it would be App-Le vs Ap-pull

mathterdark,

do I look like I know what a “JphEg” is?

I just want a picture of a got dang hot dog

setsneedtofeed,
@setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world avatar
Gabu,

All of this could be solved if English weren’t a shit language with incoherent phonemes.

CileTheSane, (edited )
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

All this could be solved if people would accept that English changes over time and if defined by usage and understanding.

If people easily understand what I mean when I say gif then I have pronounced it correctly. Same as if people understand what I mean if I use “literally” to mean “figuratively” or spell “island” with an ‘s’ despite it having no Latin roots.

samus12345,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

And if u spel werds liek this and r stil understud is it kerect?

Abnorc,

English changes over time, but you can’t just change spellings all willy-nilly without it looking weird. This happens pretty slowly.

CileTheSane,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

If it impedes understanding and causes to person you’re talking to take more time and/or effort to understand the message you are trying to convey then it is incorrect.

samus12345,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

So r u saying that writing “are” and “you” that way is correct? Because I’m pretty sure it doesn’t impede understanding in the slightest.

CileTheSane,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

There is a small extra cognitive shift where the brain realizes those aren’t typos or random letters and are intended to represent those words, so it does add an impediment to understanding. If it became common for people to write them as ‘r’ and ‘u’ then over time that would become correct.

Just like if it was common for people to pronounce “gif” one way and then someone came along and said “Well the creator wants it pronounced another way” the correct response is “who gives a fuck? This is how the word is used now.” The ‘creator’ of the word “island” did not have an ‘s’ in it, but no one is arguing for it to be spelled “eyland”.

Karyoplasma,

You re-read sentences much more often than you might suspect and it happens with all kinds of sentences, even grammatically correct ones. Garden-path sentences, for example “the old men the boat”, are specifically crafted to demonstrate this and they essentially are doing the same thing as using ‘r’ and ‘u’ as a substitute for words: they violate the Gricean maxim of manner and that one relies a lot on expectation.

However, one could make a case that in some situations, like a “how r u” via text, the replacement is ubiquitous and somewhat expected and doesn’t cause any impediment to understanding. It’s definitely a hinderance when a more verbose communication is expected. Might be a neat subject for a phonetic study, honestly.

Abnorc,

All of this could be solved if people actually cared about finding a reasonable solution. We don’t fight about it because it’s worth fighting over. We fight because it’s in our blood. We must fight to satisfy our primal urge for conflict.

So take up your keyboard, mouse, phone, or any other weapon that suits you. Join me in the battle of “gif vs gif”, and may the best warrior find victory.

stingpie,

I will continue to say LITRALLY everytime somebody uses literally as figuratively.

CileTheSane, (edited )
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

I understand, but ‘Island’ has an ‘s’ in it. This was a done as a stylistic choice to Latinize a word that has no Latin roots, and it caught on. English is a mongrel tongue with it’s rules defined by how the unwashed masses use it; You’re fighting a losing battle.

quindraco,

But they don’t easily understand you. You’re being deliberately lazy and shifting the onus of putting mental work into the conversation onto your conversational partner. Now they have to work extra-hard to deciphwr your gibberish. The decent, respectful thing to do is treat them as an equal, and put an equal amount of effort into achieving communication.

Or I could just tell you to flarfle your garglax. Seems perfectly clear to me, so obviously you’re in the wrong if you complain.

CileTheSane,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

Did you reply to the wrong comment?

Squirrelanna,
@Squirrelanna@lemmynsfw.com avatar

This is literally how babies learn to speak. If babies can do it, so can we.

CaptPretentious,

Grandma: call 911, I’m literally having a heart attack

Seems like it might be important for words to actually mean things. Is Grandma being dramatic or is she dying…

CileTheSane,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/literally

I agree, it’s stupid, but arguing against it is “old man yells at cloud” territory. The fact is if I said “I literally couldn’t get out of bed this morning” the meaning of that statement is well understood.

force,

Ah, so you want to abolish figurative language too. I like where this is going

JackbyDev,

Heaven forbid I layer my irony by using literally as hyperbole.

CileTheSane,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

You don’t actually mean heaven should forbid it, you mean “figuratively speaking heaven forbid”!

AEsheron,

It isn’t really used to mean figuratively though. It’s used as an intensifier, and all of its synonyms are as well. And they all have been for hundreds of years. Really, truly, honestly, actually, etc. Seems so strange to me that this is the single word from the group that gets dogpiled on, and the perception that it’s some new phenomenon, Mark Twain used it in the same manner.

Peppycito,

Gif is obviously pronounced like the g’s in ‘gorgeous’

samus12345,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

Egregious!

Advocado,

Guys… guys… can we all just agree that it’s pronounced gif and not gif?

can,

It’s pronounced gif and gif.

krimsonbun,

nope. only gif is correct.

krimsonbun,

no you fuckwad it’s pronounced gif

MystikIncarnate,

IDK, I always say gif, and people seem to understand what I’m saying.

RizzRustbolt,

And PNG crew still reigns supreme!

surewhynotlem,

Pronounced “pong”

CileTheSane,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

“Pung” you plebeian.

letsgocrazy,

Pung.

ZoopZeZoop,

Not “Peeng”?

danjr,

Pee Enn Gee or Pee Enn Jee?

QwertySpace,
@QwertySpace@lemmy.world avatar

God dammit

baltakatei,
EldritchFeminity,

GIF comes from the Old English word “gif,” pronounced with a “y” sound.

So it’s yif.

Rodeo,

No, it comes from the name Graphic Interchange Format.

So if we’re going to with jfeg, then we’re also going with gif.

1847953620,

kill it with fire

sverit,
@sverit@feddit.de avatar

I’m more of a “jaif” person.

MystikIncarnate,

I hate this.

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