Anyolduser,

Brevity is the soul of wit.

This comic has 25 panels.

LesserAbe,

That’s why all the funny movies are no more than five minutes long

Anyolduser,

Find me a five minute long joke or a feature length movie with only one joke in it.

It shouldn’t take 20 panels to tell a joke.

CosmicCleric,
@CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

It shouldn’t take 20 panels to tell a joke.

Seems like it’s not telling a joke, but instead making a statement about Humanity.

Anyolduser,

And to deliver this profound message of “people are inherently distrustful” they needed 20 panels.

They could have done this in one. Have each caveman holding out one hand to pass food and the other hand holding a club behind their backs.

Want to really illustrate the groundbreaking idea that people don’t trust each other? Make a second panel with knights replacing the cavemen and swords replacing clubs, then a third panel swapping in businessmen holding pistols.

If humor wasn’t the goal that’s… fine, but being long-winded in a format based on brevity undermines the message. Using 20 panels guarantees that half of the people who bother to look at the comic won’t finish it. Those that do will probably be bored or even resentful that their time was wasted, making them less receptive to the message.

CosmicCleric,
@CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

Not everything needs to be rushed. Sometimes the build up makes the conclusion better. Slow the F down.

Klear,

Agreed. This is not an example of that though.

CosmicCleric,
@CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

This is not an example of that though.

How so?

Anyolduser,

If your comic needs to be long form to build tension, that’s a graphic novel.

CosmicCleric,
@CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

Storytelling is storytelling, regardless of the medium.

Anyolduser,

And this story is shallow and needlessly verbose.

CosmicCleric,
@CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

Carry on, Internet Warrior.

AlDente,

I find it interesting that your takeaway was “people are inherently distrustful.” While there is truth to that, my interpretation was that “progress can be slow, but it is progress nonetheless.” In this case the “slow” of the message was communicated through the panel count.

Empricorn,

I don’t think they told “a joke”, nor intended to. This was a humorous exchange as well as a commentary on human nature. My day is better for having read it.

Bill Watterson is one of the greatest comic artists ever, and even he said (paraphrased) “I enjoy a funny conversation more than just one punchline”.

Another great person, Empricorn said “let people enjoy what they like”.

MaxVoltage, (edited )
@MaxVoltage@lemmy.world avatar

This is like TV bro chill

letsgo,

Oh I dunno. You should take a look at Sir Humphrey’s monologues some time.

unreasonabro, (edited )

this is so 'murican it hurts lol

like genuine American cringe

you guys should try building a real society instead of just hating and murdering all day long

Godric,

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SnugZebras,

Just carrying on the European tradition

samus12345,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, not like all those countries with peaceful histories like…um…little help here?

creditCrazy,
@creditCrazy@lemmy.world avatar

I’m sorry but how is this extremely amarican. Like the Japanese also assist echother the Russians assist echother. I’m sure people in China and north Korea have friends that assist echother.

hark,
@hark@lemmy.world avatar

These are the types that went on to work for wall street.

Jonna,

No.

This is a load of shit. Why it has up votes blows my mind.

Do some reading or watching of hunter gatherer societies and you’ll see lots of group survival activities. Teamwork in hunts, in preserving food, in crafting tools, and making shelter.

If we were this self-centered, we wouldn’t have such advanced communication, which is how we were able to do all those group activities.

Survival of the fittest is survival of those that cooperate.

Mango,

Have you seen Trump?

Jknaraa,

Survival of the fittest is survival of those that cooperate

The question nobody ever asks about survival of the fittest is what actually makes someone fit to survive?

nxdefiant, (edited )

That for nature to decide!

Today: Be faster than your prey!

Tomorrow: Have endothermic heat regulation so that you survive the asteroid impact that’s going to blot out the sun!

ApostleO,

Say what you will about the game, but IRL does a decent job of switching up the meta on a regular basis. Though it’s pretty frustrating when you figure out a decent strat, and then next season it’s useless.

samus12345,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

Adaptability. Adapt or die.

painfulasterisk,

I agree, this is a load of shit. How do we know cavemen communicate in “good enough English” for us to understand?

HonoraryMancunian,

And the dude on the left is just so clean shaven. Honestly I can’t believe everyone’s falling for this

chicken,

It’s a comic about cavemen. It can be entertaining and interesting without being a complete representation of early human society. That said afaik there is evidence people in prehistory killed each other a lot.

HonoraryMancunian,

Why it has up votes blows my mind.

Because it’s funny? Honestly why your comment is so highly upvoted is blowing my mind, although I mean you no ill-will by that.

CosmicCleric,
@CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

Honestly why your comment is so highly upvoted is blowing my mind, although I mean you no ill-will by that.

Ironically, both can be right, upvote wise.

Smokeydope,
@Smokeydope@lemmy.world avatar

Its part of the lemmy meta-game at this point is to take a joke super seriously and go on a psudo-intellectual rant about how the contents of the joke are the sum of everything wrong with humanity. Everyone needs their 5 minutes on the high horse

BluesF,

Hahah the whole idea of there being a meta for a discussion website (which there totally is lmao) is so fucking funny to me

Shou,

It’s normal for males, even in social species, to bully food from members weaker than them. Sharing food is a sign of accepting a lower status and avoiding conflict.

Kase,

Got a source?

daltotron,

I kind of read it more as the cavemen slowly coming to realize that they are both better off with mutual co-operation rather than that they are better off by simply being greedy, because the risk of the greed was too big. It was in their best self-interest to work with one another, i.e. they were both self-centered, and were still able to co-operate. Sort of some selfish gene type stuff, I guess.

Drummyralf, (edited )

It’s so funny to me (in the positive way!) that your comment actually transforms this comic into a piece of art by giving it a social commentary (and by interpreting its meaning). And by making it art, you basically give the best counterpoint against “it’s not historically accurate” .

lightnsfw,

How is the one with the meat better off? He should have just merc’d the asshole that showed up demanding shit from him.

sus,

Stomach too full. Meat will go bad before eat all of it.

lightnsfw,

So use it to enable someone who just threatened to kill you?

heyoni,

Starvation will make you do crazy shit.

lightnsfw,

Still not smart to take chances on is this “starvation crazy shit” or just them being an asshole. Either way they threatened your life.

Kiwi_Girl,
@Kiwi_Girl@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

He has a friend

surewhynotlem,

I don’t doubt that some small (or not?) percentage of the population do think and act and vote this way.

The rest of us allow them to exist and breed and it will be the end of our species eventually.

platypus_plumba,

It’s a comic strip, nobody is looking for historical accuracy here. The interaction is funny, that’s it.

creditCrazy,
@creditCrazy@lemmy.world avatar

So let me get this straight your angry that this comic about cave men learning that being selfish doesn’t work. Has people that don’t understand that being selfish doesn’t work.

AlDente, (edited )

They went from threatening to kill each other to sharing food, then contemplating trading more food in promise of later trades. This is a message of progress and cooperation. Extrapolating this forward, I have no doubt that this is the groundwork for the teamwork you describe. Any hesitancy along the way seems like no big deal to me.

AbsoluteChicagoDog,

We were pack hunters and lived in societies way before evolving into modern humans.

ininewcrow,
@ininewcrow@lemmy.ca avatar

Modern technological human history is only about a hundred years … we were cavemen and acting like scared children for about 50,000 years before and like frightened monkeys for 2 million years before that … we may have landed on the moon but we are closer to our ancient ancestors than to any futuristic highly evolved human society.

We’re more like cavemen with nuclear weapons.

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