Newbies are often afraid or insulted to use “handicap” pieces, but the few free pieces given to a lower-rank player are actually quite effective at adjusting the balance with unevenly ranked players. It’s not a huge advantage and doesn’t fundamentally change the play of the game.
Using different sizes of board is also neat. I’m very fond of a short game using only a 9x9 board. Plays a lot faster, but trades strategy for a more tactical game.
Newbies are often afraid or insulted to use “handicap” pieces
I made this mistake! I started learning Go years and years ago, and it turned out the company where I was working at that time had a former 7-dan amateur player. When he found out I was learning he offered to play me, which I eagerly accepted. I didn’t know this at the time, but 7-dan amatuer is the highest Go ranking one can achieve in Japan without playing professionally (there are separate 1-dan through 9-dan ranks for pros). For our first game, he offered to give me the full 9-stone handicap since I was just starting out. I thought that sounded excessive and suggested a 6-stone handicap instead, so that’s what we did. He fucking destroyed me that game. It was not even remotely close. For the rematch, I humbly accepted the full 9-stone handicap.
No offense, but the extra stones just made it so he could go easy on you. When I started go, the new player challenge was to end a 9 stone handicap game against the resident 3-dan with a “positive” score. [0]
[0] most official scoring methods either ignore captured stones, or count them as positive points for the player who captured them. However, when scoring by hand, it is easier to count them as negative points for the person who lost them; so thats what we did.
I personally don’t like the experience of playing with more than 3-4 handicap stones. For the weaker player, every move it’s like “What is my opponent up to now? I am still ahead, I should just play safe.” and for the stronger player it’s like “How can I force my opponent to make mistakes?”. These thoughts are sometimes part of an even game but not as frequently.
It is entirely unlike Go the programming language in that it is, in fact, a strategic board game, However, it may be possible to write a simple progam in ternary-encoded binary with the game pieces and board.
It wasn’t until 2015 that the top Go player lost to an Ai while chess lost in 1997. It’s wild how big that gap is when you think about how much tech had to improve to make it possible.
It’s a bit complicated to understand what an “algorithm” is in case of a neural network. Besides, I haven’t heard of recent human wins over an AI in Go, can you point me to read about it?
This is actually more impressive about AI. People used to think Go AI wouldn’t be able to beat a human player until like 2050. I certainly thought that when I learned it in like 2010. Back then the strongest AI was like 1 Dan (amateur) at most. (9 Dan is the highest rank and professional 9 Dan which you need to play professional games to get to are much stronger than an amateur 9 Dan which is like 9 Dan from an online website. Also the games rankings go from 30 kyu which is the lowest rank to 1 kyu which is the highest “amateur ranking”. After 1 kyu is the Dan ranks ranging from 1 to 9)
It’s called Igo and it was invented in Korea. It has less unique pieces than compared to chess, yet is more complex than chess by a higher order of magnitude.
The claim that it was invented in China is actually from baseless speculation from a flawed study published back in 1993 from a Chinese university tied to a government propaganda campaign and regurgitated in an essay posted in 2004 that someone cited on Wikipedia in 2014.
The British Go association is citing gobase.org which is registered in the Netherlands, who is citing a historian named H.J.R. Murray. who said he read a 1983 Watanabe Hideo book where that guy says he saw a picture of a Go board excavated in China back in 1954, that is not possible to correctly carbon date since there was no reports of that excavation having any evidence of organic material collected to properly carbon date and no one has any photographs nor records to inspect of the actual excavation.
You are literally relying on a Chinese university tied to the Chinese government telling you “trust me bro we invented this” without providing the public any factual info to investigate.
I’m literally going through all the citations that are available in Wikipedia and the links OP is posting. You want me to post that shit in a redundant unecessary way? Because that’s actually what I’m doing.
I don’t know what you were trying to prove here, but not a single one of the links mentions Korea as the birth place, if they worked at all. As you go further down the list, they either don’t work or have access to the content. For the ones that do work, they all start with a variation of the following:
Go is one of the oldest board games in the world. Its true origins are unknown, though it almost certainly originated in China some 3,000-4,000 years ago. In the absence of facts about the origin of the game there are various myths: for example that the legendary Emperor Yao invented Go to enlighten his son, Dan Zhu.
No, I want you to provide a source that says Go was invented in Korea. I also checked Wikipedia, and several other sites about Go, because you made me curious, since I had always heard it was invented in China.
Everything I’ve seen has said it was invented in China.
Looks like I misread a John Fairburn book where he says Wei’Qi was invented 1000 years ago and the Chinese lied that they invented it 4000 years ago. Even those claims come from dubious archeological excavations done in China.
I’m going to dig deeper, but I remember reading somewhere there’s evidence of it actually being invented in India long before it was popular in China, based on the game called Navakankari/Daadi made of small wooden pieces that are less likely to survive archeological records.
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