Daft_ish, (edited )

If I had to guess mental health is like an easy bake oven, its really just a light bulb in a plastic box. Mental health isn’t important at all you just need a warm light bulb.

trailing9,

If I can take a guess I would say that anxiety is like hunger, it’s the absence of self-confidence. Anxiety doesn’t have to be removed but confidence increased.

Scrof,

What a terrible take. Both insulting, uneducated and patronising.

seitanic,
@seitanic@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Well, scientists have studied this stuff, so you don’t need to guess. Anxiety is caused by trauma, not low self-confidence. However, anxiety can decrease your self-confidence, and increased confidence can lower your anxiety, so the two are linked.

NocturnalMorning,

Yeah, that’s not really how anxiety works not even sort of. Anxiety is generally a trauma response, and it takes a lot of therapy to fix that, and by fix, I mean reduce. Anxiety doesn’t usually just disappear completely either.

trailing9,

How would you define trauma?

To me trauma is a forced decision where you have to deny yourself. Then the anxiety comes from the expectation that the self will be denied again.

If this is slightly correct then an increase in the sustainability of the self should reduce anxiety.

Decoy321,

It’s not even remotely correct.

Please stop.

trailing9,

OK. But please give me a hint about what is right.

agent_flounder,
@agent_flounder@lemmy.one avatar

Since you couldn’t search for ‘trauma psychology definition’ or similar, here you go

www.apa.org/topics/trauma

Decoy321,

If you’re genuinely interested, I would suggest finding better sources for more accurate information.

for example, this is from the American Psychological Association:

Trauma is an emotional response to a terrible event like an accident, rape, or natural disaster. Immediately after the event, shock and denial are typical. Longer term reactions include unpredictable emotions, flashbacks, strained relationships, and even physical symptoms like headaches or nausea.

While these feelings are normal, some people have difficulty moving on with their lives. Psychologists can help them find constructive ways of managing their emotions.

You do yourself a disservice when you just arbitrarily decide that your perspective is “right.” information isn’t right or wrong, there are degrees of accuracy. It’s important to just try to learn more accurate information.

trailing9,

Does this help you to understand the why? Trauma is such a loaded word that any official definition is strongly limited in its expressiveness. Where can I find the definitions that work?

Decoy321,

I’m sorry I couldn’t find a definition that works for you, since you’re clearly not actually discussing in good faith. Goodbye, troll.

trailing9,

I didn’t mean to offend you and I want you to know that I appreciated that you took the time to not only look up the link but also copy the explanation. Of course I have to object. I think I am in line with the comic when I ask why there is anxiety. The capital letter ‘why’ wouldn’t be funny if ‘trauma creates anxiety’ would be a sufficient answer.

seitanic,
@seitanic@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

A common example of trauma is domestic abuse (child abuse, partner abuse, etc.) Another is a combat veteran who has suffered the ravages of war during their tour of duty. Both of these types of trauma can cause anxiety and/or PTSD.

BeanGoblin,
@BeanGoblin@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

This is not how mental illness works.

Veltoss,

Maybe don’t “take a guess” at how mental illnesses work when there are tons of studies and experts that know better.

trailing9,

Do they, if there is a drug pandemic? Not an argument that I know better, just some doubt into those experts and studies that they have figured it out.

If there were answers, people wouldn’t ask here.

SkyeStarfall,

Research on drugs is one thing, it’s another to convince politicians they should go productively about it

Maalus,

Buddy, stop “casting doubt” about shit you know nothing about. You aren’t “just asking questions” you are actively insulting people with health issues.

agent_flounder,
@agent_flounder@lemmy.one avatar

Your comment is every bit as nuanced and informed as I expected it to be.

seitanic,
@seitanic@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Knowing the cause isn’t the same as knowing the cure. We know what causes cancer, but we still can’t cure it.

I’m not sure where you’re going with “drug pandemic”. Are you taking about opioid addiction?

trailing9,

Yes, opioid addiction but not entirely ignoring the others.

batmangrundies, (edited )

I’d go ahead and say the cause is likely related to BPA/BPS compounds in plastics. And the exposure of pregnant women to those compounds.

But ya know, that’s just me.

Edit: lol at downvotes, this is newish research. A lot of new information has landed literally in the last week. I sincerely advise keeping an eye on it as research ramps up.

I’ve posted a couple of papers below, one old, one new. As well as a link to an article that does a good job of summarising where our understanding is currently at.

Eheran,

that’s just me.

So how did you come to that conclusion on your own?

agent_flounder,
@agent_flounder@lemmy.one avatar

Through the wonder of Sci pulling random bullshit out of their ass.

batmangrundies, (edited )

One of the OG studies that raised the alarm.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6946218/

Recent study into specific harms.

journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/jour…

pennlive.com/…/new-study-suggests-a-link-between-…

As more research is done, it’s going to end up being the lead exposure of our generation. (If I was to make a judgement call now)

Weird downvotes, I guess we love.3M and chemical coorporations now lol?

seitanic,
@seitanic@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Which of these talk about anxiety?

Eheran,

Thank you for the links, so it is not “just you”. While it is still unclear what causes it, that seems to be one potential cause.

seitanic,
@seitanic@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Or, ya know, child abuse.

batmangrundies,

How do you explain vastly decreased rates of child abuse vs vastly increased rates of various disorders? This isn’t my area of expertise but it is my wife’s.

It’s kind of an a known at this point that there is something environmental affecting us. Given the number of recent studies, (check my post below) and the ramping interest in BPA/BPS and ~100 similar compounds, I advise watching this space.

Eheran,

Why do people downvote this post? What he says it’s logical and he provides sources.

batmangrundies,

It’s a very dystopian realisation.

Something was done without the consent of your parents or yourself that has a lasting impact on the rest of your life.

I just hope we hold those responsible to account. This was researched in the 90’s and the scientista that worked on it were muzzled.

You can read about that here:

e360.yale.edu/…/a_warning_by_key_researcher_on_ri…

trailing9,

Sorry, I thought your reply was hyperbole.

It’s essentially the lead argument so not as out of this world as the downvotes suggest.

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