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Sharpiemarker, in Manosphere grifters misuse evolutionary psychology to promote anti-feminist views

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Vodulas, in Ohio State University health sciences course requires students to engage with ā€˜White Privilege Knapsackā€™

Wow, what a garbage article. Surprise surprise itā€™s origin was Fox News. The amount of sarcasm quotes is kind of impressive, though.

Gods forbid you have to take a look at your privileges then unpack what that means. Oh, and then you have to try and empathize with people that donā€™t have those same privileges. Scandalous.

scrubbles,
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Not that having privilege personally is a bad thing either. Itā€™s just opening you up to it, being aware of it. It also doesnā€™t diminish other negative things you went through.

Iā€™m a white male. I probably have gotten jobs that were helped by that fact. I also grew up dirt poor only affording ramen and rice. One does not cancel the other out, it just adds to who I am.

However now being aware of it I want to move into a position where I can help change things, where I can help hire people not based on their skin color or sex

Vodulas,

Exactly. Right wingers are so afraid of admitting they have any privilege. Like, it doesnā€™t make you a bad person inherently

snooggums,
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I also grew up dirt poor only affording ramen and rice.

If nothing else, we can acknowledge that choosing to eat Ramen and rice now is not the outcome for a lot of people who tried just as hard as we did to move up the economic ladder. They are often still stuck in the same position because of things outside their control.

jarfil,

tried just as hard as we did to move up the economic ladder

Topple the ladder.

The ladder is bad, no matter where you are on it, or how hard you try to move up.

roastedDeflator, (edited )
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Wow, what a garbage article. Surprise surprise itā€™s origin was Fox News. The amount of sarcasm quotes is kind of impressive, though.

I totally agree about what you say on fox news. I would honestly like to ask you something. Since I am not a native english speaker I am afraid that I must have missed the amount of sarcasm you mention. Would you mind pointing out a few examples so that I have a compass for the future. And I will delete it afterwards.

[edit: I was looking for a better article on the topic but I didn't find one yet. If anyone has something in mind, please add a comment and I will edit the post and add this link, instead of deleting it as mentioned above]

Cagi, (edited )

Any single word in quotation marks. Reread sentences with any single word in quotes as if some conservative know-it-all is rolling their eyes and scoffing at these quoted terms. Putting them in quotes quarantines them from having to be taken seriously and is setting them up for criticism. If they didnā€™t use quotes for terms they didnā€™t like, they might be accused of being complicit in the ā€œwoke mind virusā€ that has stupid people so terrified.

roastedDeflator,
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Got it, thank you so much.

Vodulas,

Looks like some gave you a good explanation. For the record, it didnā€™t seem like you posted it in bad faith, just that the writer clearly had an agenda. You probably canā€™t find any other articles mentioning it because it really isnā€™t much of a story, even though it is cool. The right wing is just trying to rile up their base

PotentiallyAnApricot, in Ohio State University health sciences course requires students to engage with ā€˜White Privilege Knapsackā€™

This is really cool. It is actually really useful to be taught things that will help you navigate the world better. Lots of people just donā€™t get this information at home and tumble into adulthood without it. Iā€™m really grateful that when I went to school about ten years ago, many of the intro classes included units about privilege and race. I remember the experience as being more like ā€œoh crap, I didnā€™t realize that, now I have a bit more information about how to to act more in line with my preexisting values in the world and be wayyy less weird sociallyā€ and not ā€œoh no it is bad to be privileged!ā€. I imagine that is what itā€™s like for most people. Fearmongering aside. Lots of people just donā€™t get parented or educated about this so schools have to do it. Itā€™s helpful. Itā€™s useful. I know many of these articles are supposed to make it seem shocking, but itā€™s not, itā€™s just telling people things they might not have realized in high school. Itā€™s a good thing and it isnā€™t new at all. Itā€™s just that this terminology has entered the public conscIousness and made some people mad. Iā€™m really glad not all schools have caved to this weird reactionary disingenuous repression of what are honestly important life skills

jarfil, in Ohio State University health sciences course requires students to engage with ā€˜White Privilege Knapsackā€™

I navigate my ā€œwhitenessā€ by covering it in clothesā€¦ then getting treated dismissively by doctors because I ā€œhave plenty of resourcesā€, ā€œhave your family help youā€, ā€œjust change your whole life or youā€™ll be dead in 5 yearsā€, and ā€œhave you already stopped with those silly ideas?ā€.

Thanks for the privilege, by the way.

FZDC,

Iā€™m healthy, fit, educated, and kinda rich. Iā€™m also a man.

Do you believe those circumstances grant me with privilege?

The answer is obviously yes, so Iā€™ll acknowledge it, rather than try to change the subject to ways in which Iā€™m not privileged. Bringing up ways that white people may not be so privileged doesnā€™t actually address whiteness as privilege.

And privilege isnā€™t even something to feel guilty about. Itā€™s just worth acknowledging in a ā€œknow thyselfā€ kind of way.

poloniousmonk,
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jarfil,

Bringing up ways that white people may not be so privileged doesnā€™t actually address whiteness as privilege.

What about ways in which ā€œbeing privilegedā€, turns out to actually be a hindrance?

I used to be a healthy, fit, educated, not poor, not homeless, white, tall, man, blonde, with blue eyesā€¦ oh, and high IQ.

Wait, did I just describe the Aryan ideal? Ultra-privileged, right?

What pisses me off, is that after being aware of those privileges from relatively early, and being really careful to never abuse any of them, when it turns out that I need help, instead I get my privileges thrown in my face.

Itā€™s not a privilege to get mocked and laughed off by doctors, to get failed by teachers, to get your work destroyed, to not get believed about family problems, all because ā€œyouā€™re privilegedā€.

Heck, I once almost got run over by a car, because I nodded at a black girl to let her pass first, and she went off her way to hit me with the stroller with her baby inside, pushing me off the curb into traffic. Like, seriously?

So what, did I live my life wrong? Should have joined some neo-Nazi group? Should have used my privileges to abuse and scam everyone left and right? Should have kicked the babyā€¦? The fuck.

roastedDeflator,
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Do take a look at the following video. You will find answers, if that's what you are looking for.

How to recognize your white privilege ā€” and use it to fight inequality [18:26]

jarfil,

That seems to say you should use all your privileges all you can, ā€œbut for the goodā€ā€¦ while trying not to use them, striving for actual meritocracy, is the wrong way?

Yeah, in retrospect those might be wise words, in a ā€œwhen among wolves, bite first then be good laterā€ sense, but I find it kind of shitty as a goal for society. Oh well.

millie, in Ohio State University health sciences course requires students to engage with ā€˜White Privilege Knapsackā€™

So weā€™re just posting Fox News articles on Beehaw now, huh?

Vodulas,

The article is terrible, but OP clarified that English is not their first language and they did not catch the BS it conveyed.

millie,

I feel like thatā€™s not a good reason to leave it up.

Kwakigra, in Ohio State University health sciences course requires students to engage with ā€˜White Privilege Knapsackā€™

I think this is the perfect kind of class for undergraduates attending American Universities. A class which directly challenges studentsā€™ pre-existing biases and lays out contemporary arguments so that the class can have a shared understanding of what theyā€™re discussing whether they are supportive or opposed to those arguments. I was challenged like this when I was in college outside of class and having to directly consider these ideas among people I really repected helped me immensely in my understanding of American culture dynamics and ability to use reason when facing difficult claims.

ConstableJelly, in Texas Supreme Court Rules Against Woman Who Sought Court-Approved Abortion

Non-paywalled article from ABC

"Under the law, it is a doctor who must decide that a woman is suffering from a life-threatening condition during a pregnancy, raising the necessity for an abortion to save her life or to prevent impairment of a major bodily function,ā€ the opinion read. ā€œThe law leaves to physiciansā€”not judgesā€”both the discretion and the responsibility to exercise their reasonable medical judgment, given the unique facts and circumstances of each patient.ā€

What a ridiculous acknowledgement in a decision that overturned a doctorā€™s judgment. Just appalling across the board.

Hisnitch,

Itā€™s not really an acknowledgement, itā€™s more of a threat. With how the ruling went, itā€™s implicit understanding that says ā€œWe honestly donā€™t care, donā€™t try because if you do, weā€™ll make sure you get the chair.ā€ Doctors canā€™t do jack and I bet you that if this ruling is used as precedent, they are going to use to start justifying why people who need healthcare the most should just dieā€¦

Huh, that sounds little familiar. Kind of like a life deciderā€¦ no, thatā€™s not quite it. Iā€™m sure it will come to me later.

PaddleMaster,

Itā€™s a dark time when the law tells a Doctor they could perform a life saving procedure, but afterwards will need to defend their action in court.

Darn those Obamacare death panels (/s if that wasnā€™t clearā€¦)

Itā€™s a terrifying timeline to be a woman. Or anyone else who isnā€™t a white, straight, Christian man.

raccoona_nongrata, (edited )
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Itā€™s so they can maintain the chilling effect of the catch-22. The doctor doesnā€™t want to make the call because theyā€™re not in a position to parse such vague legal language that canā€™tjust be overruled by a malicious judge, but then the lawyers and judges are like ā€œOh, well Iā€™m not a doctor, donā€™t ask me.ā€

Itā€™s bullshit, but itā€™s working exactly as intended.

scrubbles, in Texas Supreme Court Rules Against Woman Who Sought Court-Approved Abortion
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In America you donā€™t have the freedom to ask a doctor for their opinion for you and your baby. You have to go through the government first.

ShinyBiscuit, in When People Assume Youā€™re Not In Charge Because Youā€™re a Woman
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Now add BIPOC to the mix.

Gaywallet, in Manosphere-inspired YouTubers are encouraging men to start OnlyFans management agencies
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I mean that was Tateā€™s whole deal, was it not? Not surprising itā€™s expanding

jarfil, (edited ) in Manosphere-inspired YouTubers are encouraging men to start OnlyFans management agencies

Pimps are just entrepreneurs offering management and protection services, for a sometimes slightly exorbitant price. OF is great when it stays online, but the moment a worker decides to diversify into IRL, they will need a pimp/boyfriend to kneecap the abusersā€¦ right?

PS: I knew an IRL sex worker once, she would only do dom work with sub clients, and still keep her ā€œboyfriendā€ at the door just in case.

gu3miles, in How to Mobilize Men Against Sexual Harassment

Tricky problem to solve

luciole, in How to Mobilize Men Against Sexual Harassment
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If the harasser reacts angrily, we can learn to defuse the situation by separating the harasserā€™s action from their intention, which may not have been to hurt someone. ā€œWhat youā€™re doing is acknowledging the emotionā€”like, ā€˜Hey, I hear that youā€™re really frustrated, that this is confusing,ā€™ā€ May says. ā€œThen say, ā€˜Things like that can make our co-workers feel uncomfortable, and I know thatā€™s not what youā€™re trying to do.ā€™ā€

I like this part very much. As a matter of fact I think thereā€™s no need to reserve this strategy for when the offender is getting angry. It should work especially well for the ā€œordinaryā€ low key sexist or racist comments. Assuming the offender has the best intentions and is misguided paves the way for an amicable resolution.

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