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KISSmyOS, in same bed length

Yeah OK, but only in one of these trucks can I safely text and drive.

Flax_vert,

Booze cruise

Cannacheques,

Cops 🕵️👀

FireRetardant,

Pretty sure that is unsafe in any truck if you are the driver.

TimewornTraveler, (edited )

I’m guessing it was a joke meaning “I might kill others but I’ll survive”

Vex_Detrause, in same bed length

If I want to get a small truck or something similar what can you recommend that’s available in North America? (Serious)

Buffaloaf,

The Ford Maverick is the smallest, if that’s what you’re thinking. A bit larger, but with better towing and off-road ability, you’re looking at Ford Ranger, Chevy Colorado/GMC Canyon, Toyota Tacoma, and Nissan Frontier.

UrPartnerInCrime,
@UrPartnerInCrime@sh.itjust.works avatar

Nah mate. I have a Colorado that I’ve actually used a lot and it’s still not good enough

M0oP0o,
@M0oP0o@mander.xyz avatar

Basically have to import something due to the silly laws around new trucks. Kei trucks (the cool one in the picture) now cost a lot but are great.

CoffeeJunkie,

Ones readily available include but are not limited to: Ford Maverick (getting great reviews), Toyota Tacoma, Ford Ranger.

Tbh I wouldn’t mess with much of anything else because they tend to be of questionable quality and/or look stupid.

Mishmash2000,
@Mishmash2000@lemmy.nz avatar

Yikes?! A Ford RANGER is considered a small truck to you?? They’re part of the growing plague of stupidly large trucks in my part of the world!? :-/ I mean I knew the US had big trucks but I never thought the Ranger would be considered the small alternative?! We’re so screwed?! :-(

sibannac, (edited )

I saw a 90s ranger next to a new one and the new ranger looks like the size of a 90s f150.

Mishmash2000,
@Mishmash2000@lemmy.nz avatar

It’s so shocking?! I’m looking at a Ranger out in the car park right now and trying to imagine something bigger parked out there?! It wouldn’t fit within the bounds of the parking space?! Already if there were two Rangers parked next to each other there wouldn’t be enough room to walk between them, even if you turned side on :-/ Let alone having room to be able to open the door and get in & out?!

In fact I can see that it’s had a flow on effect whereby every other parked car has had to park on the extreme edge of their space to allow room to open the door and get out. If there was one more Ranger anywhere along the line someone would be likely blocked from getting in or out of their car!

lightnsfw,

Yea all thes suggestions are huge compared to an s10 or ranger or other light truck up til the late 2000s. I hate it so much.

CoffeeJunkie,

As I stated…it’s what’s available in the US. It’s only bigger from there.

dankm,

The Ranger in the 80s and 90s was a perfectly reasonable size. The new ones are gigantic next to them, but they’re still smaller than almost anything available in the North American market.

EatYouWell,

The Tacoma is definitely not a smaller truck.

CoffeeJunkie,

It is one of the smallest available in US. Of course I’m referring to Tacoma with a standard cab, not the People Hauler 5000 it’s basically a minivan crew cab configuration.

The Tacoma would actually be my pickup of choice. I hate the modern styling, but the Toyota build is just so solid & Ford as of late has been disappointing. To say the least. The green movement is not only based on size, but how durable a product is & if it can last for many, many years of reliable operation. Unfortunately we do not have Hilux, but Tacoma is America’s version of Hilux.

EatYouWell,

Check out the Hyundai Santa Cruz. It’s a smaller truck, but it can pull 3500lb.

CoffeeJunkie,

Now this is just personal taste, but I really don’t like the looks of that truck. Cosmetically, I put it on the same level as the Chevy Colorado. Generally speaking, Hyundai isn’t known for quality builds like Toyota, not even close.

That said: the new Hyundai Elantra makes the short list of vehicles I’d be interested in, buying new. Scotty Kilmer praises its naturally aspirated, non-turbo engine & traditional build components. Thinks it could last a long time. 👍🏻

skyspydude1, (edited )

Ford Maverick or Hyundai Santa Fe Cruz are basically the only 2 options

Jarix,

I think you mean Santa Cruz? The sante fe is/was an suv

EatYouWell,

*Santa Cruz

PersnickityPenguin,

You can buy a really old small truck.

Patches,

Really really old. I hope you are a capable mechanic.

They ain’t made em small for decades.

PersnickityPenguin,

My neighbor spent about $20k buying a late 90s model Tacoma.

dankm,

Loved me my '86 Ford Ranger. 4 cylinder, 5 speed, am radio, jump seats in the back, extended box. Cost C$3000 in 1998.

My dad bought a 2021 Ranger. It’s bigger than the F-150 from 1998. Insanity.

jimbo,

True, but the older ones are so much simpler to work on.

EatYouWell,

Hyundai Santa Cruz (which I own), or the Ford Maverick.

tastysnacks,

How do you like the Santa Cruz. I’m really interested in it.

EatYouWell,

I love it so far, especially now that I got a bed extender so I can haul full sheets of plywood and such.

It’s got a ton of power under the hood. I average around 26/30mpg, but my wife averages 28/32-35mpg

It’s really roomy inside too. I’m 6’3 and this is the first vehicle I’ve driven where I didn’t have to move the seat all the way back. And people are able to sit comfortably behind me.

I highly recommend trying to get one with the tourneau cover on the bed, because it’s amazing. But don’t get the trailer hitch from them. You can save $3-400 having a local mechanic do it.

My only real gripes are that the AC blows too hard on its lowest setting (for me) if just the upper vents are blowing. The ride is also pretty smooth, so I often catch myself speeding without realizing it. Also that the steering wheel controls don’t have a play/pause button.

tastysnacks,

Nice. ok, I’ll probably check it out next week.

Jarix,

New? Hyundai santa cruz is probably your best bet.

If you are okay with older/used vehicles i would look for a japan import garage/dealership

(Im in canada but have seen many of these types of places across the country that import those small trucks)

rikonium,

I’d skip the Santa Cruz largely since Hyundai/Kia are experts at cost-cutting that blows up big in customer faces down the line. (anti-theft, engines, warranty work, wiring, etc.) but your options are already limited so I wouldn’t blame you for getting it. I’d get the base engine/transmission though if you anticipate stop/go traffic or off-road use since the dual-clutch in the upper engine option is better than dry clutch models but IMHO still suspect.

I would lean towards the Maverick but neither are really “small” since they’re still pretty long.

There’s the Transit Connect if you want a cargo van that’s compact.

Nemo, in Parkable cities

This is /c/fuckcars not r/americabad.

Chicago has three Christkindlmarkets that look just like the above, all accessible by public transit. It’s okay to celebrate what we’re doing right.

Vaggumon, in ... and you feel nothing.
@Vaggumon@lemm.ee avatar

Hey, you support Elon, you get what you deserve.

HiddenLayer5,
@HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml avatar

Play stupid Elon games win stupid Elon prizes!

mondoman712, in A great illustration of how cities can be designed around public transit at scale

I just got recommended this video, which is suspiciously similar to (exactly the same as) the one you linked and released a year earlier.

yogthos,
@yogthos@lemmy.ml avatar

Youtubers being lazy and retouching content for clicks isn’t exactly a huge discovery. I don’t think that makes the content of the video any less interesting though.

mondoman712,

“Retouching” is a very polite way to put it. I’m not commenting on the content, but I think it is worth pointing to the original video so they can have the views instead.

yogthos,
@yogthos@lemmy.ml avatar

yeah that’s a good point

cobra89, in 8 lanes in one direction

If that counts as 8 lanes in the same direction, does this count as 10? Gov Alfred E. Driscoll Brg maps.app.goo.gl/BgwtjaQtns2EMf6g7

On the Garden State Parkway in NJ it’s one of the widest bridges in the world.

CADmonkey, in same bed length

When my little 4-cylinder truck wore out in 2021, I looked so hard for one of the little kei trucks. But all of the ones I could find were $20k, or they were $15k and needed a lot of work to be driveable. And none of them were within 200 miles of my location.

I ended up with a used base-model F150 which only cost me $12k. It had 81k miles on it. As near as I can figure out, it started life as a rental truck for a hardware store called “Menards”. It has an 8ft bed, no carpet, no power locks, no power windows, no back seat, no touchscreen, and no color LCD screen in the gauge cluster. I use this truck for a small farm that my wife and I run, so it doesn’t get driven every day.

Im still looking for a kei truck, though.

Anticorp,

That’s a pretty great deal on an F150. Nice!

CADmonkey,

It was half the price of the next cheapest truck on the lot, and the next cheapest truck had twice the miles. But the next cheapest truck had all the whiz-bang fancy electronics, instead of being four wheels and a truck bed.

tty5, (edited )

Try carused.jp - they’ll find you a truck matching your requirements, arrange shipping and even customs.

I recommend Suzuki Carry da52t 4x4 - you should be able to get a low mileage one for 5-6k all in.

CADmonkey,

The Suzuki Carry is the one I really wanted. I’ve a soft spot for tiny suzuki vehicles.

Every time I mention not being able to find one in early 2022, people come along to show me where I can get one now. The issue was, I couldn’t find one when I needed it.

tty5,

If you still want one as indicated in the comment I responded to contact carused with what you want and they’ll notify you when it’s available

reluctantpornaccount,

I think you mean carused.jp.

tty5,

Yes, fixed. Thank you

library_napper, in Go ahead.
@library_napper@monyet.cc avatar

Eh, I’ve ridden on worse

Fixbeat, in same bed length

Carrying 5 people in comfort while towing a trailer as well?

yA3xAKQMbq,
ImFresh3x, (edited )

Have you ever towed anything? Towing a trailer of that size and weight with a car like that, even if legal, is sketchy as fuck. Especially on hills or mountains. Where I am from its legal to take that picture, it’s not legal to get on the road. For good reason. A capable truck is much safer for that purpose, for everyone.

yA3xAKQMbq,

Ahahaha, tell me you’ve never left your country, probably not even your fucking state.

Yeah, all of Europe doesn’t know how to tow, and is „sketchy as fuck“. 🤡

This is perfectly legal and safe.

You know what’s sketchy as fuck? The US, which has 3 times more road deaths per capita than the EU.

Now go back to your wankpanzer, please.

You999,

Doing that in the states would be illegal. Our payload and towing capacity are calculated differently which vastly drops the ammount you are legally allowed to carry. For example a jeep wrangler in Europe has a towing capacity of 5000Lb (2300Kg) but the same exact jeep in the states can only tow 3500Lb (1600kg)

yA3xAKQMbq,

Yes, because people in the US cannot be trusted to drive at safe speeds while the EU regulates 80/100 km/h with a trailer.

You999,

Speeds are a per state basis however a good chunk of them do in fact have separate speed limits for vehicles with trailers. For example, California limits vehicles with three or more axles to 55 MPH (88kph).

Pogbom,

Most people with pickups barely ever fill up a full bed let alone an additional trailer and 4 more people.

Fixbeat,

My point is that these vehicles are not equivalent, but feel free to haul your family around in that midget truck.

FunderPants,

Yes, but you see, most people with pickups imagine they need to do those things and imagine they need to do it multiple times a week.

Pogbom,

The murdered pedestrians are just a bonus :)

Spaghetti_Hitchens,

Yeah. I have murdered soooo many pedestrians

SpeakinTelnet,
@SpeakinTelnet@sh.itjust.works avatar

The sadest part is that you might never realize you got that bonus, especially in a school zone.

Fixbeat,

But good thing you are there to tell people what they need.

FunderPants,

People are absolutely terrible at differentiating between needs and wants. Not sorry for saying so.

KredeSeraf,

Well some people do. I did for about 3 years, 4+ times a week (work and hobbies) but those are all gone now so looking to trade it in.

Not defending the absurd legislation that makes these keep getting bigger but there are a legit few people who actually regularly make full use of everything a full size offers.

jimbo,

I had a 2015 Nissan Frontier a with a tow capacity of about 6500 lbs. Bought a hitch receiver and towing wiring…and never installed it. Never towed a damned thing with that truck, even though I had it in my brain that surely I would at some point.

FunderPants,

And you know what, it’s a totally human thing to do. I’ve done it, just not with a truck. Maybe I shouldn’t be so frigging judgemental.

myplacedk,

“Barely ever”? Isn’t that enough?

My car can drive 4 people and their luggage. I need that every time my family goes anywhere.

But usually it’s just me and my laptop bag, maybe a couple of grocery bags.

So I’m that guy. Big car, rarely filled to capacity. What do you suggest I do? Buy two cars to reduce waste?

(Although mine is not an American pickup, it’s a European station car. If that changes anything.)

Redfugee,

I like the motto of optimizing for the things I do more frequently, not for the edge cases. It’s up to you to decide where that line is. But maybe if the need for something larger is rare enough, you can find another option like renting something. I know renting is a pain, but if it’s rare you don’t have to do it all that much.

ImFresh3x, (edited )

I live in a blue collar neighborhood. Big trucks owned by tradesmen/women everywhere. They absolutely use them frequently for what they’re capable of. Some of them have a second cars for groceries etc. but I’m glad there are not two cars for every truck because parking would be a bitch, and wouldn’t save much gas. If they were to rent for the “rare trip,” it would be the grocery store. No one is gonna rent for a grocery store trip when they can just happily drive their truck. The store is closer than the rental agency.

theplanlessman,

If you’re hitching a trailer anyway then why bother with the truck bed at all? Just get a minivan with a decent engine.

Fixbeat,

Minivans can haul about 3500lbs, which might work for some situations.

zhunk,

My dad’s VW Touareg could tow like 7700 lbs, which is more than a lot of trucks and easily enough to pull plenty of boats and campers. Even a compact SUV that can tow 3500 lbs can pull some boats and campers as long as people don’t buy giant oversized versions of those, too.

Cannacheques,

Dunno, do either of these things have towbars? Toyota Hiace might but I genuinely don’t know

nickiam2, in same bed length

One is a truck made for actual work and the other is an abomination pretending to be a truck.

EatYouWell,

The second is basically a minivan, but the 3rd row is a truck bed.

My truck is kinda similar, but they just took a smaller suv and added a bed.

nickiam2,

So why not just use the van? At least the cargo space is covered from the elements. Most people who drove these yank tanks don’t actually need the truck part.

EatYouWell,

Not arguing that at all. But vans really aren’t much better from a fuel economy standpoint.

Catsrules,

So why not just use the van?

Using the right tool for the right job.

Open bed of a truck is very handy for very tall items or stuff that needs to be dumped like rocks, dirt etc… Or if your towing a very large load with goose neck trailer.

inverted_deflector,

Actually minivans have more utility cause you could take out the middle row. And they had the sliding door and hatch and were more compact .

moshtradamus666, in same bed length

Trucks are getting so stupid. The brands are smart though, they really know how to to make the most of men insecurities.

EatYouWell,

They’ve also started releasing smaller trucks recently, so things are getting better in that aspect.

thejodie,

The masses yearn for the Ford Ranger.

EatYouWell,

The ranger is back, but it’s still large. The maverick is more like the old ranger.

SevFTW, (edited )

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The title is inflammatory, yes, but it’s a great video that drives home the point of masculine insecurity and a “dominance of nature” spurs a lot of the “masculine” stereotype behind trucks and SUVs.

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Micromot,

The one comment the bot hasn’t answered

SevFTW,

Maybe I gotta say it three times?

poppy,

Some places have it blocked.

SevFTW,

Yeah, I assumed as much so I just made a Beetlejuice joke

veniasilente,
tomcatt360,
@tomcatt360@lemmy.world avatar

Good bot. 😉

phoenixz, in same bed length

Also, one of these actually needs and uses the bed, the other one doesn’t.

Irishscotchburner, in there still are too many cars in german cities

This Pictures Shows the “Striezelmarkt” in Dresden. It has an underground parking lot with 400 parking spaces. But it’s recommended to use the public transport.

Caitlynn,

400 parking spaces would never be enough for the masses at those Markets

Irishscotchburner,

Yeah and shouldn’t drive anyways if you consum alcohol on these markets.

ignotum,

Ideally you shouln’t drive if you have consumed alcohol, regardless of where you did it

Franzia, in same bed length

Make the small one appealing to Americans who buy a truck for aesthetics.

FireRetardant,

Make the small one legal to build in American markets.

sexy_peach,

Who are you appealing to?

CoffeeJunkie,

Question seconded. New big trucks tend to be ugly AF.

Work trucks for the working man, please. Reject modernity, embrace tradition.

Sanyanov, (edited )

Drive modernity to practicality. Embrace modern freight fleet, reject driving around in a truck to pick a bag of chips

PersnickityPenguin,

The kei truck is mostly a farm truck.

For construction, Japan uses huge flatbed trucks.

EvokerKing,

Who buys a truck for aesthetics and not for usefulness? The tiny one might be ugly but the bigger problem is storage in the interior of the car. You don’t even have a back seat in the small one. And also I doubt that the small one can haul large amounts of weight, like a trailer, where the big one can. Just because it is dangerous doesn’t mean it doesn’t have a purpose. Now, instead of having a car for getting around, an SUV for more people, something powerful for a trailer or heavy stuff, you have one for everything that costs the same price as one of those vehicles.

Franzia,

The more Im looking into it you are so much more right than me. Its about utility, not aesthetics.

OmenAtom,

Plenty of fuck boys buy trucks they never use for any amount of work. Pavement prices/princesses is the slur afaik

uis,
@uis@lemmy.world avatar

It sucks more than anything you mentioned

Nacktmull, (edited ) in Birds eating some paint chips off the dividing line

I like how you captured the fucked up aesthetic of the road cutting through nature and how the birds adapted.

variants, (edited )

what gets me is the shear amount of paint there is, we drive about 30 miles and most of the way is like this with just little mounds of yellow dust and Im sure it all just washes away in the rain to places we dont want it to end up. Also apparently birds need to eat rocks and stuff to help break down food so they hopefully are just getting the little rocks and not the paint chunks

FireRetardant, (edited )

Roadway runoff is a big impact from roads that is largely ignored in many places. The runoff can contain

Paint chips, Oils and fuels, Brake dust, Tire particles, Salt, and Litter.

Most of this will run right into ditches, streams or rivers. There is often no treatment of the runoff.

njordomir,

I was astounded when I saw stats on how many birds get killed by cars every year (I think it was posted here a while back). Its like an ongoing bird genocide. No wonder birds shit all over parked cars. We can’t even fault them for this, but it would also be illegal for us to join in. :D

I’d love to know the difference in average bird fatalities for a busy 4 lane highway vs a double-tracked rail line with overhead catenary.

virtueisdead,

This isn’t even to mention the other many ways we’re constantly actively contributing to the deaths of birds through suburbia, even indirectly. Aside from the obvious stuff like getting rid of the trees they inhabit in the rare urban areas, we even kill them in the places they can live, by having “outdoor cats” as if they arent an invasive species. Letting them predate on the local bird population can be hugely detrimental!

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