Well obviously less vehicles of any kind would be a benefit. Cities designed around people with public transport options would always beat out a society where everyone has a car. I think there is more push on this in Europe than the US, where outside of the big cities public transport is virtually non-existent. Urban planning should emphasis central districts to create transport hubs where people eat / work / shop and therefore demand to make public transport. And outside of that cycle routes, footpaths etc.
But electric vehicles are still much better than ICE vehicles. Over their life time they account for 1/4 emissions (depending on how power is generated) and those emissions can be more effectively captured. And of course renewables bring the emissions down year on year. There is a direct correlation between NOx emissions and respiratory deaths so this is a good thing. Also less CO2 emissions and contribution to global warming. Also, particulates are much less - brakes are not the primary source of deceleration in an EV (regen is) so pads don’t see anything like as much use as an ICE car. Some EVs are even going back to using drum brakes where the dust is basically captured inside an enclosed drum. The tyres also aren’t any worse or faster wearing than ICE vehicles so in that regard it’s even.
Agree with almost everything you said here, EVs are definitely significantly cleaner than ice vehicles but you’re oversimplifying a little when it comes to brakes and tires. Some cheap evs are going to drum brakes but the vast majority of modern evs are using significantly larger brakes with softer pads than equivalent gas vehicles due to the acceleration offered by electric vehicles. Its possible that as time goes on and electric vehicles make up a bigger market share of economy cars this will change.
The bigger issue with clean EVs is the insane amount of rubber they use in their tires. I’m not sure where you’ve heard the tires on EVs are roughly equivalent to ICE, sue to the weight increase EVs use much bigger tires that wear down faster than gasoline vehicles and I’ve read a few studies about the possibility of these tires throwing more “marbles” or small pieces of rubber than their lighter ICE counterparts. All this not to mention the increased road maintenance required by doubling the weight of the average car in the last thirty has me concerned were trading toxic fumes for other forms of pollution.
I wouldn’t say Volkswagen ID cars (ID.3, ID.4, ID.Buzz), Audi Q4 e-tron are cheap cars but they’re using drum brakes. Drum brakes are actually more efficient since a pad isn’t rubbing against the plate, impeding efficiency. It’s also easier to integrate electronic parking brakes into the mechanism. I imagine other EV makers will follow suit if for no other reason than it saves money and weight.
As for tyre wear, I’ve already pointed to links from the RAC & Kwikfit who I trust know what they’re talking about. I suppose if you drove an EV like you just stole it you might suffer wear but I imagine most people don’t drive like that and actually drive their car anticipating the need for acceleration / deceleration to maximize regen. And that style of driving also happens to reduce wear on the tyres.
There is no better way for a real 'murrican to get from point A to point B than in the driver’s seat of your brand new F150…
…except literally 1000s of other means of transport including skipping, pogo-sticking, slithering like a snake, railroad handcar, ultralight, rollerskating, skateboarding, push scooter, teleportation, hot air balloon, powerwheelz, electric unicycle, trolly bar, walking etc. etc. etc.
For me personally, I have to say bikes and on foot. Even in the colder months, a 15 miler feels great!
High speed rail. It’s phenomenal. Want to go somewhere far away? Without HSR you’re doing an exhausting drive, a day-long ride in slow trains, going through horrible airports and paying for taxis on both ends. With HSR you go directly between city centres stress free and arrive with plenty of spoons to walk around. It’s a game changer.
Feet. I was always at odds with bikes and cars, because I always disliked being tied to a piece of metal. Trains, trams and buses are cool shortcuts, if they’re available. But at the end of the day, feet are the real MVP. They’re just always there, always waiting to chauffeur me to my next destination, and they’ll carry me all the way, even into houses, right to my seat.
Carbrains go out of their way to make pedestrians and cyclists feel bad on purpose, and society subsidizes their planet-burning nonsense and needlessly plans cities around humoring their personalized pollution machines.
You live in a bubble world where you feel comfortably smug and want to talk down to other people. You are stuck on a Reddit mentality and it disgusts me.
Also, since you smugly (and deepy ignorantly) claimed no one kills anyone on purpose because you’re that high on your own farts in that bubble world of yours, here’s some people that kill on purpose, a lot more than no one. The source should be liberal enough for you to not whine about “bias” either. Maybe.
You live in a bubble world where you feel comfortably smug and want to talk down to other people. You are stuck on a Reddit mentality and it disgusts me.
Its my perspective on you
Also, since you smugly (and deepy ignorantly) claimed no one kills anyone on purpose because you’re that high on your own farts in that bubble world of yours, here’s some people that kill on purpose, a lot more than no one. The source should be liberal enough for you to not whine about “bias” either. Maybe. www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/hate-incidents
Its easy to find on internet people killing in US.
Ultimate measure of safety is percieved personal safety. I have to admit I didnt know situation in US is so bad with over half of people feeling unsafe
Realistically speaking ordinary people probably dont encounter agression on daily basis as they run errand, but violent acts happen more often so more people feel unsafe. Ordinary people dont kill for sure
Carbrains go out of their way to make pedestrians and cyclists feel bad on purpose, and society subsidizes their planet-burning nonsense and needlessly plans cities around humoring their personalized pollution machines. Fuck 'em.
I still disagree with your view of drivers on a highway
You are in a room where everyone already agrees that high speed rail is good.
Someone makes a (very fucking obvious) joke about how high speed rail is so good we should build them next to highways to make carbrains jealous.
You: um actually we shouldn’t try to make people feel bad. Making people jealous is bad policy decision. Doing that would make the train less efficient too.
Everyone else in the room: yes we know you joyless nerd.
Bike for sure, as I was still at school I did 100+km /week. I guess it stuck. Second is probably kayaking although it is seldomly actually useful transport. Then walking, and after that all manner of trains, then cars, then busses, and last planes. But honestly I just like being in transport to some extend so unless I’m dreading my destination I like them all.
Nothing beats walking to me. I wish I could walk everywhere but stupid lack of endless time. In general I enjoy travel more that is slow but consistently moving. So train over bus and I just hate planes because sure the plane is fast but most of your journey your just sitting there or in lines. but yeah it would be walk then bike then metro train then other train. Plane and bus are pretty unappealing to me so not sure where to put either. At that point I might actually prefer a car, which I know is verbotem. Actually busses are not to bad if the jaunt is short enough but really then I might as well bike anyway.
Bike and it’s not close. I’ve loved being on my bike my whole life, ever since it was the easiest way to get to the public library as a youth. My hometown had a beloved, beautiful, and very extensive bike trail system, and in addition to my use of it for transit, my family would ride it together for fun every Sunday. At peak usage as an adult rider, my daily commute was ~27 miles. Currently it’s 9, but I do a lot of errands and shopping and recreational riding as well.
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