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Nacktmull, in EPA sides with tribes on petition to regulate toxic tire chemical that kills salmon
@Nacktmull@lemmy.world avatar

Im grateful. They are fighting this heroic battle not just for salmon but for everyone, because a functional ecosystem is in everyone’s best interest.

blackn1ght, in How cities can stem the tide of pedestrian deaths from large cars and SUVs – Ars Technica

If the children were driving their own SUVs this wouldn’t be a problem.

paper_clip,
@paper_clip@kbin.social avatar

Additionally, give the kids guns.

RizzRustbolt, in Yes, also Teslas

Not so much eliminate the emissions as pawn them off on the coal industry.

Although in some markets they do use renewables or nuclear.

FastAndBulbous, in Yes, also Teslas

Do you ever get tired of being angry at everything?

polskilumalo, in Yes, also Teslas
@polskilumalo@lemmygrad.ml avatar

Trams, trains, bikes. The Holy Trinity of sustainable transport that must be pursued instead of EVs for an actually livable planet.

Death to the car. Death to America.

queermunist, in Hi-viz

I wear hi-vis to give me a chance in the lawsuit. 🫠

WalrusDragonOnABike,

Also to reduce cops trying to tell my to ride at 20mph on the sidewalk...

anothercatgirl,

Sidewalk riding is what got me hit by a van in the first place. I’m all healed now.

lgsp,

I wear hi-vis just because it’s so cool! 😎

queermunist,

That’s what my LED gear is for - gives me an awesome cyberpunk look at night.

oo1,
baseless_discourse,

RGB makes you bike faster

YexingTudou,

Only works if you can survive the f-150 doing 60 in a 25 zone 😌

Taringano,

Surviving is temporary. Being right is forever.

YexingTudou,

Me walking into the crosswalk seeing the cars with no intent on stopping (state law states they must stop for pedestrians)

barrbaric,

Walking into traffic while holding an armed anti-vehicle landmine

YexingTudou,
barrbaric,
Overzeetop, in ‘People are happier in a walkable neighborhood’: the US community that banned cars

lol - I love when this gets (re-) posted periodically. The first time I read it I was thinking “out in the desert” when it said it was outside Phoenix. It’s not. It’s a single block (1 street x 1 ave) of space *in the middle of Tempe Arizona * with a 4 lane highway on one side. This is not a “no car utopia,” it’s a more-profit apartment complex that is using the “walkable city” greenwashing to cover the entire parcel with dense apartments (and limited, doomed retail) and not have to set aside mandatory parking to cut into profits. Last I looked, a 3BR rental was something like $35k-40k a year in rent.

Don’t get me wrong - the concept is nice, with good massing around the alleys and public spaces. This took planning. And it’s ~1/2 or 3/4 mile walk to a pretty major shopping area (across said 4 lane highway and a massive parking area at the mall). And that last part is good because there aren’t enough units in this development to support more than 1-2 restaurants and a bodega…it’s only about 1/4 to 1/3 the population needed to support a standard grocery store. And - as advertised- there’s no parking and Tempe isn’t walkable so you’re not getting any substantial outside customer traffic.

LennethAegis, in Why Norway — the poster child for electric cars — is having second thoughts
@LennethAegis@kbin.social avatar

“Most Norwegian cities now have more of a car-centric, American approach toward transportation than a multi-modal, European one,”

That's a sad sentence to read, I always assumed Norway was like Sweden with amazing public transportation as well.

SkyeStarfall,

I live in Oslo, and that’s not true for here at least. Oslo probably has one of the best public transit systems in the world, at least relative to its population. I never use any form of car, personal or taxi, I don’t even own a driving license, and I can easily get anywhere I want to go. At least within the city.

legofreak,

As soon as you leave the city though, you’re having a problem. Bicycle infrastructure is basically non-existent, cars heavily impeding buses - at least where I live - which delays them all the time and centralised bus hubs, which means that you always have to go to the bus hub first, change bus lines and then go to your destination.

This is also my biggest problem with the metro in Oslo. If you live slightly outside of Oslo but still along the metro line, the only way to travel perpendicular to the metro lines is often to take the metro towards the city, change lines and go back almost the same direction you came from.

sparky,
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I think this is a failure of imagination on the part of the author. Norway is, on a whole, much more rural; a large portion of the population lives in small towns and villages in areas with difficult terrain (think fjords), where public transport beyond a bus is impractical due to population densities.

The public transport in Oslo and Bergen are fantastic - Norway’s only two large cities. Keeping in mind that over a quarter of the population of the entire country lives in these two, it’s not as bad as it sounds.

LennethAegis,
@LennethAegis@kbin.social avatar

I see, that makes sense. I appreciate the lesson in Norway's infrastructure.

doublejay1999, in Monsters of the road: what should the UK do about SUVs? [The Observer]
@doublejay1999@lemmy.world avatar

Attacking SUV drivers is precisely the wrong way to go about reversing the surrender of the public realm to the automobile and it is exactly the right way to start another immature culture war , alienating a lot of potential allies in the fight to reclaim out streets .

biddy,

Perhaps, but polite persuasion hasn’t worked either

Tvkan,

Fully agree. SUVs aren’t bad because they’re a few percent bigger/heavier/safer/less efficient/… than other cars, they’re bad because they are cars.

Many discussions on SUVs in particular give the impression that a “normal” car is somehow the sane, efficient alternative, which just isn’t the case.

papabobolious,

a normal car is a much more sane and efficient alternative, that might be where you are getting that idea.

frankPodmore,
@frankPodmore@slrpnk.net avatar

Exactly this. There are some clear use cases for cars and even for SUVs (possibly only if you literally live or work on a large farm). There’s no case for driving an SUV in a city. It’s antisocial behaviour at best and actively threatening at worst!

doublejay1999,
@doublejay1999@lemmy.world avatar

Swapping land rovers for golf’s gets us practically nowhere

frankPodmore, (edited )
@frankPodmore@slrpnk.net avatar

It makes the roads safer and that saves lives. It reduces pollution, saving more lives. It also saves space. That doesn’t save lives, granted, but it’s still a good thing.

If we accept any use cases for cars (and I do, personally), even if it’s primarily in the short to medium term while we build better urban infrastructure, then we should also advocate for those cars to be as small, as safe and as clean as possible.

PlexSheep,

They are bad because they are cars, but in the realms of car usage, they are ultra bad because they are even bigger steel death machines.

doublejay1999,
@doublejay1999@lemmy.world avatar

A street filled with VW Golfs instead of Land rovers, still afforded the vast majority of space in town, still given priority at every turn and still transporting one or two people at a time, doesn’t move us much further forwards .

hellothere, (edited )

As is covered in the article, explaining the environmental impact of SUVs to SUV owners does not change their mind or encourage them to get a different car; it is effectively ignored.

So that is where ideas like the deflators come in, you make it more inconvenient, maybe that will work where polite discussion did not.

frankPodmore,
@frankPodmore@slrpnk.net avatar

To be honest, I’m sick of trying to politely persuade people to stop killing other people with their idiotic cars. All cars are bad, yes. SUVs are the worst. It’s perfectly reasonable to try to solve a wicked problem by going for the worst offenders first.

bit_thanos, in Monsters of the road: what should the UK do about SUVs? [The Observer]

Time to buy SUVs :)

MrFlamey,

Dude, you misspelled “burn”

tlf, in EU poised to water down new car pollution rules after industry lobbying

Living in a city with many bicycle lanes along major streets, the toxicity of exhaust gases worries me and doesn’t come as a surprise. Sucks that most people don’t know or care about that

barsoap, in me_irl
Masimatutu,

Glorious

uthredii, in Monsters of the road: what should the UK do about SUVs? [The Observer]

Link to the tyre extinguishers website: www.tyreextinguishers.com

regul, in Monsters of the road: what should the UK do about SUVs? [The Observer]

inb4 the Tories offer tax credits for SUVs

djsaskdja, in Chicago Sold it's Parking Meters to Morgan Stanley for 75 years. (The consequences have been terrible)

Break contract. Fuck ‘em

brezelradar,

Better yet: Fuck’em without breaking the contract.

paris,

And then go to court against Morgan Stanley…

I believe they’ve been trying to get out of the contract though which is good, but it’s still easier said than done.

PowerCrazy,

Just claim sovereign immunity, bing boom, so simple. (I have no idea what the consequences of that owuld be, or what the legal outcome would look like.)

SARGEx117,

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  • sadreality,

    Corruption is to make sure nobody in the government does the reasonable thing.

    People believe the system is a lot less corrupt than it really is. Propaganda good

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