Agent641,

Jeep and 3 dogs please.

zaphod,

Body armor, first aid kit, machete, water purifier.

If you choose anything that requires fuel or electricity/batteries you’re fucked.

phoneymouse,

What’s the body armor for? Zombies will bite you on the neck.

AstridWipenaugh,

It’s good for general protection too. It can soften blows from other humans or just accidental injury while scavenging dilapidated buildings. What we consider to be minor bumps and scrapes now can be life threatening when you have inadequate medical supplies, malnutrition, sleep deprived, no sanitation, etc.

zaphod,

I don’t have a PhD in zombiology but zombies will bite you wherever they can. Depending on what kind of zombies we’re talking about a bite alone might turn you or not. So body armor could be useful for some kinds of zombies and utterly useless for others.

danielbln,

Good luck on foot, brah. I’ll be taking the jeep and hose-sucking fuel where needed. Provides shelter, warmth, storage.

Adalast,

He’s right, unless you study up on making biodiesel. Then you have the upper hand in the argument, as a diesel Jeep can be run on biodiesel. Rendering those fatty zombie corpses to fuel should be a functional disposal method.

Chriswild,

Many gasoline cars can be retrofit to run on ethanol. In the Midwest you will find more corn than you can ever use to make said ethanol.

ikapoz,

Not a terrible play, but it has a BIG downside you might not be considering.

99.99% of the corn grown first world, and a lot of other food crops, are sterile hybrid varieties that don’t readily reseed themselves (Monsanto and company HATE when farmers don’t have to buy seed every year).

Once there is no more harvesting or maintenance on stockpile equipment, that supply will dwindle faster than you might expect.

Chriswild,

Their have been instances of gmo corn cross breeding with heirloom corn and Monsanto suing the farmers for patent infringement.

You can use the stores for ages and since you’re not eating it you can use rotten corn. Then it’s just a matter of time for a cross to form naturally.

Adalast,

Fuck corn. It is patently one of the worst feedstocks for ethanol. The only reason you hear so much of it is because there is so much money wrapped up in it already and it is a way to use up excess stock. No, switchgrass is the answer. Hearty, more biomass per km² than just about any other crop, has high cellulose content (which is what gets turned into ethanol), and can be cultivated just about anywhere on the continent with little maintenance or involvement. You could probably get away with planting a few fields in pockets around a stronghold which could be checked on a couple of times a week and harvested for an extended period, then you just have to process it as usual. It is even relatively short and dense, so zombies would struggle to hide in it and it would act as a natural barrier to slow the advance of both Zs and any nairdowells that would seek to assault you. Fuel source and defensive emplacement in one.

Exusia, (edited )
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That and after a while gasoline expires even in the tank of a car. After like a few months he would have to be making his own fuel anyway, because whatever gets siphoned can’t be used.

Slagathor,

A motorcycle could get you out of the city/infected zone pretty fast though. Not a bad choice.

phoneymouse,

True and all the road will be blocked with traffic, so you can lane split with the motorcycle.

Problem is you’re sleeping in the open air unless you grab the tent. Also can’t really build a collection of supplies.

Adalast,

I’m swapping the first-aid kit for the crossbow, but spot on for the rest. Body armor is rare and definitely raises your odds of survival in the short term after the initial spread. A machete is the ultimate all-purpose blade, good for defense as well as butchering, breeching, and it is easily maintained. And the water purifier is a no-brainer. Waterborn diseases are a real problem in any situation where public utilities become inaccessible and clean drinking water grows scarce.

Assuming that I am obviously able to expand my kit as I survive, the ranged weapon that uses easily craftable ammo would be ideal. A first aid kit could be cobbled together over the course of a few days of persistent scavenging. No promises on the crossbow, they are far less common than bandaids, gauze, sterilization solutions, and splints. Really the thing that would likely be the hardest to source is the suture needle that you should have in there.

I always loved 10k in Z-Nation for using the wrist rocket slingshot because that is truly the king ranged weapon for a survival scenario. Lightweight, ammo that is infinite and easily accessible, and lethal out to ranges that matter. Not to mention that they are very easy to maintain and repair.

All that said, I would likely accumulate the aforementioned electricity/fuel items as I am familiar with the production of biofuels and can build some alternative generators (wind, methane, solar concentrators) for electricity once I have somewhere secure. Methane in particular has always been attractive to me for survival scenarios because anaerobic decomposition is a great way of dealing with biowaste and what is left over ends up making really good fertilizer. Just need a couple of propane tanks, some steel, and a car battery to rig as a welder and you can turn one into a digestor and the other into storage, then get a couple 2 cycle lawnmower engines and some AC motors and you can get a power supply running. At least enough to run some incandescent bulbs. Need a voltage regulator for more complex electronics to keep the line clean, but that is a different conversation.

CulturedLout,

I picked the same you did, but I don’t know that I’d consider useable arrows easily craftable. Maybe if you had something pre-made for shafts?

Adalast,

They only have to be serviceable, which is manageable just like they were made in from antiquity to the modern era, wood. It might take some practice, but a hand-carved shaft that has the tip dipped into molten lead or pewter could make a rather effective bolt. You could use more modern materials as well; various types of piping, scavenged hardware like nails and dowels, etc. They may be less accurate and harder on the crossbow, but they don’t need the longest range in this topic and the wear and tear on the crossbow may be justified if you know how to repair it and maintain it to ward off failure. Obviously, there would be trial and error, but it wouldn’t take too long to become a competent Fletcher.

Adalast,

Also, as I said, for usability and reliability in efficacy and ammo sourcing, nothing beats a wrist rocket slingshot. The weapon itself is lightweight and can use everything from ball bearings and buck shot to large bolts and nuts to gravel. There is virtually no terrestrial environment that you wouldn’t be able to find something that can be used as absolutely lethal ammo.

Maggoty,

Eh, batteries aren’t hard to charge as long as it’s a small item like a flashlight.

Ookami38, (edited )

Jeep: unparalleled utility. It’ll die eventually, fuel is finite, but it’ll let me establish.

Shotgun: need a weapon, and while not the strategically beat weapon, I have an image to maintain.

Water purifier: water.

Machete: backup weapon, infinitely useful tool, more rugged than the katana.

I think this combination gives me a good shot at establishing a base of operations, securing the area, and settling for long-term. Between the jeep and the machete, most obstacles can be overcome, and scavenging is easier and quicker. Strategically, the crossbow is probably the best weapon just due to the reusability of the ammunition, but it’s not infinite and what you gain in that, you lose in ease of use, which is paramount in a stressful situation. Opting purely for usefulness, the pistol (assuming subsonic rounds and as quiet as possible) probably offers the best balance between reliability and forgivingness, but I like shotguns.

Water purifier is a pretty easy one. Gotta have water, and while most of that will come from rain or scavenging, there will inevitably be periods of literal draught. Finally, the machete. A knife, a backup weapon, a crowbar. Good for clearing small-medium vegetation. Honestly, the uses are limitless, perhaps second only to the jeep.

Honorable mentions:

Dog. If it’s pre-trained, top tier. If you have to train it, mid at best plus another mouth to feed.

Any other firearm: mostly preference, each has pros and cons

Body armor: depending on the zombies, top tier (walking dead style, feral gonna bite you zombies) or reeeally not useful (anything spread by spores, fumes, fluids, etc.)

Gas mask: invert the body armor.

Motorcycle: quicker, less utility than Jeep. I wouldn’t say it’s the worst pick

Everything else is either marginal utility at best (cb radio, NV goggles) or easy enough to scavenge (flashlight, first aid supplies, tent, honestly everything else on the list.)

Something_Complex,

Bro, it’s a zombie apocalypse, you can just walk outside and steal any car you feel like

olutukko,

You will still need keys or a really old car that you can actually turn on with wires

Something_Complex, (edited )

I’ll just search appartmenta with my body armour,my dog and an ax for a some keys. When I find them I go outside and do that thing we do when we forgot where we parked in a large parking lot

Peppycito,

It says outbreak, not apocalypse. They’ll still expect you to come in to work.

AnarchistsForDemocracy,
@AnarchistsForDemocracy@lemmy.world avatar

They’ll still expect you to come in to work.

🤣 😂 😭

Pharmacokinetics,
@Pharmacokinetics@lemmy.world avatar

Flashlight, machete, first aid, water purifier.

Vehicles require fuel, and weapons require ammo. I dont know why I’d need a gas mask either.

Litany,
@Litany@lemmy.world avatar

I think it depends on the nature of the plague, is the zombie contagion airborne to some extent? If yes, I think I’d take the gas mask over the first aid kit.

AstridWipenaugh,

If the zombie plague is airborne, fuck it. Give me a barrel of bourbon and and a couple pounds of weed. That’s guaranteed to last me the rest of my life.

UndercoverUlrikHD, (edited )
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Could be a the Last of Us (the game) scenario where plague is airborne locally where the air is stale.

samus12345,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

Was it different in the show?

UndercoverUlrikHD, (edited )
@UndercoverUlrikHD@programming.dev avatar

It’s not airborne. It’s was spread through ingesting infested flour or something like that.

samus12345,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

Oh, that’s pretty different! I didn’t see enough episodes to get to that, I guess.

UndercoverUlrikHD, (edited )
@UndercoverUlrikHD@programming.dev avatar

Didn’t enjoy the show?

The thing about how it spreads is “revealed” during episode 1 though. But you got to pay close attention to the details.

samus12345,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

Oh, then I wasn’t paying close enough attention! I just kinda stopped watching it. I didn’t think it was bad or anything.

I_Has_A_Hat,

Why is a bike not on this list? Fuck a vehicle that needs gas, give me some pedal powe.

Chee_Koala,

plot twist, the jeep is electric and there is a spinner-bike in the back you can use to charge it with. Only four short days of pedaling will get you 100 miles!

dirtydan,

Never understood that about the walking dead. Gasoline stops being vital after 3-6 months, so years into the apocalypse and everyone’s driving cars, and Daryl has that sweet frankenbike. What are those things running on?

AstridWipenaugh,

Gas is no longer in prime condition after 3-6 months, but is still combustible for at least a year or two. Old gas will damage your engine over time though. Most of the degradation is due to oxidization, so if the gas were in sealed cans, maybe it could last longer.

But yeah, 5+ years in and most gas is unlikely to work in an engine. You’d have to be making some kind of bio-ethanol at that point.

FrankTheHealer,

Water purifier: you need water to live. Otherwise you’ll die in 3 days.

Jeep: While not the most reliable, they can go off-road and can also be a source of shelter in lieu of a house or tent.

AK: Extremely reliable and easy to service. 7.62 ammo can be harder to come by depending on where you live, but regardless, the AK is a solid weapon.

Fire Axe: Good for chopping down trees, cracking heads or breaking down doors. The practicality is what makes it the better option

GR4VY,

Going with all but the water purifier. Fresh water is too easy to come by where I live. We have pristine wild rivers here, and it rains a lot. I’d be living in the forest anyway if this happened.

So I’m going with AK, Jeep, body armor, and Axe.

phoneymouse,

I chose the same top 3. Torn on the 4th between fire ax, first aid, or flash light.

FilthyHookerSpit, (edited )

I chose similarly but changed somethings for longevity.

I subbed out the jeep for body armor. The jeep will run out of gas eventually, who knows how long the apocalypse will last for. Body armor will be last near indefinitely. Also would swap out the ak for a machete. Ammo will probably be hoarded by others so will be a difficult find.

Fire axe is a great utility tool, once it becomes dull, it’ll be a good blunt weapon. Machete will not be as good but if you learn how to sharpen or find a whetstone, they’ll last you as long as you need.

bam13302, (edited )

Most body armor is good for 1 strike. Kevlar thread break, ceramic breaks, and you really don’t want to use dented armor, best case it’s a weak point, worst case is pushing in your chest cavity preventing you from breathing. Any body armor that is remotely mobile is effectively one time use. Now admitted (normally) used body armor can still provide some protection and can be better than nothing (except in situations where the damage impacts you, ie the plate metal being dented and pushing into your chest). And some can be repaired or replaced with the right materials and tools, but those are heavy, and take space

UNWILLING_PARTICIPANT,

Is the German Shepard a rescue? Anyway that and the camcorder. I’m making cute dog videos

_TheThunderWolf_,

Username checks out

Nutteman,
@Nutteman@lemmy.world avatar

4 German shepards for having sex with (i am a white woman from the American south)

Kraivo, (edited )

At least someone gets fucked before getting fucked

SuperSaiyanSwag,

I was going to say 4 German shepherds for more innocent reasons, but now my answer would be overshadowed be yours

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Which four will I be least likely to kill myself by tripping over in the night?

And009,

Difficult to trip over the tent if you’re in it

Caitlynn, (edited )

My beloved crowbar didnt even make the list :(

BedSharkPal,

Are you from Boston by any chance?

hakunawazo,

Well, it’s not called “unforseen cosequences: Gordon Freeman is working overtime.”

Modern_medicine_isnt,

Since you can easily scavange most of these things you only need the hard to find stuff, and stuff that will help you scavange. So body armor and the ak to keep you alive. Axe to help get into places for supplies. Jeep to haul your shit. Drive down to dicks and load up on the rest.

Long term you need a spear and knife for weapons. A horse and cart for hauling shit. Dog for guard duty. And ways to get water and food.

hakunawazo, (edited )
AnarchistsForDemocracy,
@AnarchistsForDemocracy@lemmy.world avatar

First Aid Kit, CB Radio, Water Purifier and Flashlight

Maggoty,

Flashlight, water purifier, respirator, and rifle (I assume with required things like ammo).

Nobody said how this plague spreads, for all we know it’s in the water or Airborne. Flashlight for scavenging and because it’s far more important to know if that’s a pile of scrap or a Zombie than it is to stay super stealthy. And Rifle gets you everything else you need.

ShitOnABrick, (edited )
@ShitOnABrick@lemmy.world avatar

Two man tent,axe. and ideally a boy scouts guide and foraging books. Ideally getting myself far way from civilisation as the zombie population is probably just going grow over time

First aid kit would probably be quite useless you can’t put a plaster on a deep gushing wound nor take glass out with a couple alcohol wipes

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