obinice,
@obinice@lemmy.world avatar

You know what? You’re absolutely right! We have no future, if climate change doesn’t get us in the next 50 years, or the endless crushing of the working classes under late stage capitalism, then the rising new wave of western fascism will when it takes over.

Nothing matters any more, let’s just do whatever we want <3

Honytawk,

Orgy, anyone?

I’ll bring the wine.

qyron,

From which country?

MySkinIsFallingOff,

SALMON

Amaltheamannen,

You’re not supposed to? Not a native English speaker.

samus12345,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

No, the L is silent. Thank the French for that.

nte,

Samon, really?

samus12345,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar
Diabolo96, (edited )

Geuss I ain’t ever gonna pronounce this damn language correctly . You can’t blame this on French tho because in that language it’s saumon pronounced somon. They didn’t drop a consonant in the middle of the word.

samus12345,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

The word comes ultimately from the Latin salmon, but we got it by way of French, as we did with so many other food words. The French, as was their wont, had swallowed up the Latin L in their pronunciation, so by the time we English borrowed the word, it was saumon, no L in the spelling and so no L in the pronunciation.

…blogspot.com/…/the-l-in-salmon.html

True, we kept the L, but we got the pronunciation from them.

Diabolo96,

Pronouncing the word based on how another language says it is strange to say the least. Imagine if train had the same treatment. In French it’s a short tr-un instead of English tr-ayn.

samus12345, (edited )
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

Pronouncing the word based on how another language says it

French influence on English is rather unique in this regard. French was the language of the upper class, so an effort was made for English to sound more French when possible.

My favorite example of how this has carried into modern day is the expressions “cordial reception” and “hearty welcome.” They both effectively mean the same thing, but the first, which is latin-derived, sounds fancy, while the second, which is germanic-derived, sounds more informal.

Diabolo96,

I know this but didn’t fully apprehend how deep the affect was.

If I ever visit an English speaking country I’ll have to remember to say half the words in French to sound very haut class. Lol

samus12345, (edited )
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

It hasn’t been this way for hundreds of years, so you’ll most likely just confuse people! Unless you’re in Canada, maybe.

Brekky,

You mean they swa’ed up the letter? ;)

HiddenLayer5, (edited )
@HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml avatar

Sallemonne /s

Edit: Looked it up, the French word is actually “saumon”. The L in the English word probably isn’t from French.

samus12345, (edited )
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

The word comes ultimately from the Latin salmon, but we got it by way of French, as we did with so many other food words. The French, as was their wont, had swallowed up the Latin L in their pronunciation, so by the time we English borrowed the word, it was saumon, no L in the spelling and so no L in the pronunciation.

…blogspot.com/…/the-l-in-salmon.html

So no, the L isn’t, but the pronunciation is.

Ultraviolet,

No, but you do pronounce it in salmonella. English is not a language governed by logic.

TheCheddarCheese,
@TheCheddarCheese@lemmy.world avatar

you do? i always said it without the l

Uncle_Bagel,

I think it’s optional in “salmonella”. I was a biology student in college and heard both pronunciations all the time.

dewritoninja,

Salmon in English sounds like semen in Spanish

RagingRobot,

Are the flavors similar too?

UnrepententProcrastinator,

I’d be worried if so.

dewritoninja,

I don’t know but id happily consume several kilograms of both

CurlyMoustache,
@CurlyMoustache@lemmy.world avatar

Got a question for you. What’s heavier: a kilogramme of salmon or a kilogramme of semen?

Sargteapot,

Clearly the semen, as it’s more dense you can fit more semen in a kilogram than salmon.

/s

sukhmel,

Akshully, the density plays its part becase of Archimedes force an atmosphere is applying to an object. The less dense an object is, the lighter it will weight for the same mass. E.g. the air baloon with helium inside will have a mass even higher that an empty one because of added helium mass, yet it may float up thus having a negative weight (in the atmosphere)

reverendsteveii,

*They put sall-mon in the fish tacos, Hank. ¡SALL-MON!

Kolanaki,
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

I can’t believe this is already here. That’s what I was gonna post!

callyral, (edited )
@callyral@pawb.social avatar

what

is it not pronounced /sɔɫ.mən/ (sol-muhn)???

reverendsteveii,

SAM-in

octoperson,

Can anyone say the s and the th in Isthmus? It’s making my tongue feel funny.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I always pronounce it that way.

samus12345,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

Or the “T” in “often!”

Oh, wait, lots of people do that already.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Which totally ruins the joke in The Pirates of Penzance.

GrammatonCleric,
@GrammatonCleric@lemmy.world avatar

salman rushdie

murpium,

lol yes! Someone who has actually watched Frisky Dingo!

get_the_reference_,

I should have been saying it like that all along, but, you know, woulda, coulda, shoulda!

creditCrazy,
@creditCrazy@lemmy.world avatar

Let me give it a try “flip flop plop plop”. Still working on my salmonese.

MECHAGIC,
@MECHAGIC@lemmy.world avatar

You weren’t supposed to do that?

niktemadur, (edited )

Now that is a Rubicon that I crossed ages ago.

brown567,

Just as long as I can simultaneously drop the’l’ sound from salmonella

sunbytes,

Oh sugar, I already do

SuckMyWang,

🔫 always has been 🔫

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