So yeah, Xfce looks the same as it did 10 years ago.
And?
Desktop environment is meant to launch apps and give me windows and maybe have a file manager. Xfce does that. It's a desktop environment.
Hey, "modern" desktop environment enthusiasts, if you bring Compiz back from the dead, give us luddites a call, will you? Ohhhh you kids should have seen it back in the day. Windows and Mac users saw Compiz in action and were, like, "wat." You don't get them to react that way to modern Linux desktops, no. And all that is lost now. Thanks Wayland.
I’ve tried GNOME 45 extensively and I just don’t see how it’s better.
Even looking at the screenshots I don’t understand how GNOME 45 is better than GNOME 2. It doesn’t even LOOK better. You need extensions to get basic functionality like a window list and tray icons.
Then there’s the bad parts, like every window now has different decorations, doesn’t work with nvidia, etc.
There’s nothing wrong with angryposting, but it needs a kernel of truth which this is missing.
I wouldn’t say it breaks everything. Franky it fixes / handles better issues that are common usecases today that was not the case during the time X11 was still the norm / actively maintained such as:
Multiple monitor support with varied refresh rates
Hybrid GPU setup (including being able to use your motherboard’s hdmi socket and your dedicated gpu hdmi at the same time)
Display scaling
Better isolation of applications (to the deterrence of existing linux applications)
Of course granted its a new protocol, it doesn’t support all the usecases that X11 was designed for due to variety or reasons (including controversial decisions)
Mind you, Wayland isn’t perfect either. For example, I found out that despite Wayland having better Hybrid GPU setup support out of the box, there are applications that ended up having broken multi-gpu support (where the application in question can choose which gpu it would utilize for its processing) where it works fine X11.
With the state of the hardware we are having, it is understandable why distros have been focused on pushing Wayland as the default, although honestly, it would be wise for these distros to not completely phase out x11 because currently, Wayland isn’t perfect.
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