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RootBeerGuy, in recommendations for lightweight window managers for an old netbook
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On my old asus eeepc I used to have arch with i3 as a tilling window manager for a while. It was taking a bit to get used to but once I worked it out and configured it how I liked it, it was fantastic. Used it for several years until I had to write my thesis and needed something stable for my operating system.

ProgrammingSocks, in Alright, I'm gonna "take one for the team" -- what is with the "downvote-happy" users lately?

I downvote posts that are arrogantly wrong. Really not much else unless it’s not relevant to the group at all.

The_Walkening, in Is linux good for someone tech illererate.

I’d say so - since you’re coming in relatively cold you’re probably not so used to Windows that you’d get frustrated with how Linux works compared to it, and if you’re just using it for regular, everyday stuff like web browsing there’s practically no difference.

bartolomeo, in Alright, I'm gonna "take one for the team" -- what is with the "downvote-happy" users lately?
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After reading the comments and looking at how much each has been up/downvoted, I have no fucking idea.

furycd001, in Make a Linux App
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How about instead of making yet another Linux distro, you just make an install script instead? I’m personally more likely to try out an install script over a totally pointless ISO…

Guenther_Amanita, in Firefox PiP doesn't stay on top in GNOME

There’s an extension for that afaik

PseudoSpock, in Is linux good for someone tech illererate.
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Yes. Linux is good enough for everyone, whether they like it or not. :)

JoeBidet, in Noob question: what to arrange before switching to linux
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As many people mentioned backups before, I would only add this: Maybe check -in your favourite search engine- if the very same model of computer that you use doesn’t have know quirks (hardware needing some tweaking, not being fully recognized, etc.) with gnu/linux, like for instance searching “$model linux” or “$model $distro” (with the distros you plan on trying, etc.

Also maybe if you connect only via Wifi, check that wifi chip for compatibility first, and maybe get as a backup a USB wifi dongle that is know to work on gnu/linux… juuuust in case ;)

Papanca,

Good points, hadn’t even thought about this, particularly the Wifi!

jntesteves, in How to work with selinux and podman?
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SELinux in Podman works pretty much the same way it works on Docker, so if you are having problems with Podman, you should also be having problems with Docker, so I don’t see how that’s impeding your migration. You need to be more specific about the issues you’re having to get a good answer.

The post by Chris Smart you linked on your comment below is a good start, but everything there also applies to Docker, so if you still didn’t know those basics, you shouldn’t be able to use Docker on Fedora either.

About your question of how to set it up, use-case is an important consideration, there is no generic answer that covers all use-cases. I’ve even found out that for some use-cases (like ad-hoc containers), disabling SELinux within the container (with –security-opt=label=disable) seems to be the most secure option. That’s what I’ve done in contr (see this commit message). I’ve been meaning to blog about that, but never did because I’m in the process of migrating my blog but too lazy to finish it.

I’ve put a lot of links about SELinux in containers in this issue.

GravitySpoiled,

Thx for your answer, I found the workflow for podman. With a new distro came the change to selinux and podman which is why I had no experience with docker and selinux either. Now, it works as expected. Thx!

rufus, (edited ) in Noob question: what to arrange before switching to linux

I’m not so sure if taking screenshots of exact settings is the correct mindset. Sometimes you have a different selection of software available and you might for example want to change your email-client or learn a new video editor because some other software works better on linux or is tied into the system better. You also need to adapt a few workflows to be maximally effective. Because some things just work differently on Linux.

I think your approach is quite good. All I want to say is: I’ve seen people get very disappointed with Linux. Especially if they try to recreate their Windows-experience closely. Be prepared to let go of your now perfectly configured software and start fresh with more things than you currently anticipate.

But Linux is awesome. I think the most important thing is to do a backup first. In case something goes wrong and you accidentally wipe your harddrive or you need to go back.

Papanca,

I should have clarified that i’m not copying all settings from all programs, just the ones that i use a lot and are important to me, from programs that i will have on linux as well. For instance, i already use libreoffice and will just copy the tweaks i made so as to not to reinvent the wheel.

As for disappointment; i have used Kubuntu in the far past, so it’s not like i know absolutely nothing about Linux, thankfully. In fact, when i ran the live KDE image, it was quite fun that many of the programs i used back then, still came with it, like Kate and the pdf reader and such.

Backups, good point! I already have everything important backupped on protondrive and a home server, but i will check how i can backup windows/settings; i do see two programs called Window recovery drive and Windows backup program, so will check out how that works and if that is what i would need. Thanks for your input!

rufus, (edited )

Fair enough. Yeah I see you’re getting lots of good advice here. I think you’re pretty well set. Wish you the best, and hope the switch works out smoothly and you’ll have some fun.

(And you’re right. Tweaking LibreOffice and things like that is more work than a fun activity. I too would take every shortcut available and focus on more interesting things. And your experience won’t be annoying at all if you already use the same free/libre office suite and other stuff. And already had a look at everything…)

purplemurmel, in I finally switched back to Linux as my daily driver after a couple of years of being on nothing but Windows.

I just switched back to windows, after using Kubuntu for the past 13 month.

I’m a software dev, I work on a Dell precision 5560 and just got tired of the worst touchpad experience ever, the endless Bluetooth issues, the fact that sleep mode basically does not exist anymore and a bunch of other small things.

On windows I do almost everything in WSL so I still work on Linux, but this way I get a much better desktop experience on my laptop.

scrion,

I used to be a Windows system developer, think device drivers etc. for what, 20 years? I switched to Linux 18 years ago and never looked back - the whole dev experience is a lot more pleasant, more control, reasonable tools and software installation, proper customization etc.

I believe you didn’t have a Linux problem, you had a problem with hardware manufacturers being fussy about enabling development of proper support for their hardware. Why not look into hardware that is actually readily compatible with Linux? Tuxedo Computers are often recommend, I used to run a Clevo and had a great experience as well.

purplemurmel, (edited )

I believe you didn’t have a Linux problem, you had a problem with hardware manufacturers being fussy about enabling development of proper support for their hardware.

Which is a Linux problem at the end of the day, unfortunately.

My current laptop is also “Linux certified”, whatever that means. I cannot say that linux does not work on my laptop because that is not true. It works. Bluetooth works, touchpad works, like 95% of the time. In that 95% I love linux. However, when the remaining 5% hits, that is freaking annoying. And you can bet the bluetooth issue hits in the middle of an online meeting, and not when you just listen to music. 4K monitors are around since ~2013, still, no user friendly solution for fractional scaling, and the list goes on.

My main problem is that, this 95% was always 95% for me. I have been trying to switch to linux since 2011. I spend 3-15 month on linux and switch back to windows for a year or two. As I see, linux desktop just runs after the desktop market and it is 2-10 years behind. I know that is mostly because of the HW vendors. But knowing this does not make me feel better when my productivity decreases due to these issues.

Why not look into hardware that is actually readily compatible with Linux?

Honestly? Because I don’t believe that 95% is significantly higher on those laptops and I just don’t have ~1500EUR for an experiment like this.

Windows + WSL2 works great. I use a Windows distro, if you will. All the issues I had with my native linux install are gone, and I can still use linux comfortably while working. This is the reality from my point of view.

scrion,

Hm, I never had any hardware issues in the last ~10 years, but don’t get me wrong, I hear you. I absolutely believe that it is possible to find a combination of HW and SW that will simply not work for a particular use case, and if my productivity would be threatened, I’d also switch in a heartbeat. In fact, I’ve gotten so used to the customizations Linux offered me that I can’t even imagine working on another Linux system without my setup and dotfiles - a different kind of vendor lock-in, if you will.

Anyway, just wanted to put a brand out there that offers some guarantees when it comes to hardware support, in case you (and others) might not be aware of such vendors.

loops, in Booting into Linux 6.6.6
detalferous, in Noob question: what to arrange before switching to linux

In my opinion you’re overthinking it.

Just get a live distro, put it on a USB, and boot into it. If it meets your needs, then install it.

amju_wolf,
@amju_wolf@pawb.social avatar

If you have a large USB stick you can even install Ventoy and put multiple distros on it so you can try out several live distros one after another!

cerement, in Booting into Linux 6.6.6
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when your entire system is already controlled by daemons …

bbbhltz, in recommendations for lightweight window managers for an old netbook
@bbbhltz@beehaw.org avatar

Just a window manager? Not a DE?

Under X11 there is Openbox, bspwm, herbstluftwm, dwm, i3, Awesome, Ratpoison, spectrwm, Qtile, …

Under Wayland: Weston, LabWC, Wayfire, Sway, River, Cagebreak, dwl, …

I keep things pretty dull and use Openbox + LXQt. It is a stacking WM that is stable, and LXQt is snappy.

If you are looking for a light DE LXQt is very light, Plasma is lighter than it used to be, but it also has loads of features. Xfce has more options for configuration than LXQt and I think it isn’t quite ready for Wayland.

Maybe Sway would be up your alley?

(Note to self: check arewewaylandyet.com)

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