Alright, I'm gonna "take one for the team" -- what is with the "downvote-happy" users lately?

Title. “lmao internet points” and all, but what is the point of participating in a community that sees assumptions and other commonly non-harmful commentaries/posts as “bad” this easily? Do folks in here are really that needy of self-validation, even if it means seeking such from something completely insignificant like internet points? I mean, if I wanted to have a “stepping on eggs” experience with someone (i.e “one false step, and everything breaks apart”), I’d look for a random chick to meet in a bar.

That, or “we reddit now”.

ProgrammingSocks,

I downvote posts that are arrogantly wrong. Really not much else unless it’s not relevant to the group at all.

bartolomeo,
@bartolomeo@suppo.fi avatar

After reading the comments and looking at how much each has been up/downvoted, I have no fucking idea.

notonReddit,

I downvote because it makes me hard

GreyFalcon,

I vote down stuff I don’t want to read. Nothing more than that.

Damaskox,
@Damaskox@kbin.social avatar

something completely insignificant like internet points

Nothing has any value until someone gives value to something.
I give value to my reputation points - it's a force that drives me further into coming up with and posting content 😁 And sometimes I enjoy comparing my points to someone else!
I started fediverse with Lemmy but moved to kbin pretty much because of the reputation system being here.

Don't get me wrong though - I don't care that much about downvoting and I don't let it affect negatively on my behavior. At the end of the day, regarding other people in the Internet has more value to me than Internet points 😌

danielfgom, (edited )
@danielfgom@lemmy.world avatar

I typically never downvote anyone. I’ll up upvote a post if it’s saying what I was already going to say.

I don’t even check vote counts, not my own nor others. I’m just here to share opinions, others and mine.

I couldn’t give a dime as to whether people up or downvote me.

I don’t think it’s a healthy system. And I agree, as Linux users we should support community and different opinions, not squash them. The disagreements can often lead to a better solution for all.

makunamatata,

Same here. Does not make a difference, and it is amazing that people’s egos are hurt or happy about it somehow. But upvotes and downvotes is what drives all other social media: egos want more likes, more subscribes, more “friends”, they want that tribal approval. I find the fediverse to be less infected with FOMO. Drama doesn’t go long around here, doesn’t stick because there are no stupid algorithms feeding more FUD. I am starting to believe that this is where the top 1% of the social media hang out and chill. Here there are people that stick around for interesting conversations as opposed to “look at me”.

Karlos_Cantana,
@Karlos_Cantana@kbin.social avatar

Why are so many people suddenly worried about down votes? They don't matter. You get nothing for a lot of upvotes, and you get nothing for a lot of downvotes. If you're so concerned about votes, I think that's a serious issue that you need to overcome, or you're going to have a very hard time in life.

Damaskox,
@Damaskox@kbin.social avatar

I'd argue that having a negative reputation could affect (some) people's behavior here as well.

x3i, (edited )

“Do folks in here are really that needy of self-validation, even if it means seeking such from something completely insignificant like internet points?”

But… is that not exactly the description of somebody who complains about downvotes?? As said by others; they should be considered exactly as valid as upvotes. If you feel like they prohibit you from voicing an opinion, I personally feel like that is a you-problem. Ask yourself of the content you posted is crap, if you feel it is not, simply ignore the downvotes and move on, they are just pixels.

Edit: I checked your posts, most downvoted ones seem to be clickbaity or images that you posted to the linux community. This is not something that vibes with that type of community, I would have downvoted that too. The ones on your technical questions seem unjustified however. Posting a code snippet asking people to execute it… I think that crap should even have been deleted by mods.

library_napper,
@library_napper@monyet.cc avatar

Mostly I downvote people who post screenshots of headlines or tweets instead of posting a link to the source. IMHO we need better moderators to delete that crap, but I do my part.

Draconic_NEO,
@Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

You should report them as well, downvoting doesn’t do anything to accelerate them being moderated, but reporting definitely does.

calypsopub,

I don’t ever go back and look at the votes.

Helix,

Who cares, I don’t display them and am happier than you while doing it

doublejay1999,
@doublejay1999@lemmy.world avatar

You need to be much less fragile, or life is going to be hard. Really hard . I say this because you seem like a good guy.

cybersandwich,

Wasn’t the rule for one of the more popular Usenet groups: rule 1. Don’t be annoying 2. Don’t be easily annoyed

Tbh, that’s a pretty great foundation for any interactions on the web.

RandoCalrandian,
@RandoCalrandian@kbin.social avatar

I love those two rules, when taken together. Seems these days communities just pick one, and both are worse off for it.

WalrusDragonOnABike,

One of the most common I downvote comments is including things like "Edit: why all the downvotes?" in topics that aren't about the voting system (instinctually downvoted this topic, but un-downvoted), . But also just downvote things things are spammy, *phobic, defending genocides, etc.

gerdesj,

How should someone who expresses an opinion - that receives downvotes - request feedback?

WalrusDragonOnABike, (edited )

Most of the time, it feels like people are just saying "yall are just mad cause I'm right" but using different words because its often obvious why: an unpopular opinion or believed to be objectively false. These comments already have plenty of replies explaining why their comment is bad in some way. The only cases where there should be confusion about why is is if you are posting in a community that gets the same comments all the time and so its spam and you don't know it, or you said something that is being misinterpreted but for whatever reason you are unable to tell why and you haven't gotten any replies already (but for some reason are paying close attention to your internet points).

cybersandwich,

It’s the Internet. People who participate in good faith discussions probably aren’t downvoting willy nilly. Everyone else isn’t going to be swayed or give meaningful feedback anyway.

Downvoted get abused a lot where they exist. People dog pile pretty quickly. It seems like an image human characteristic. It’s just a fickle mob. The smaller the community, where members know each other by handle, are usually the best for actual discussions.

Draconic_NEO, (edited )
@Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

That’s probably the reason why instances like lemmy.blahaj.zone, pricefield.org, and reddthat.com chose to disable them. They aren’t constructive and more importantly they lead to people using them instead of reporting, which is really bad when it comes to enforcing rule violations.

roguetrick,

Don't worry about it. If you were really wrong someone would chomp at the bit to reply to you about how wrong you are. If they're not, you either have an unpopular or popular enough to be spam, opinion.

RandoCalrandian,
@RandoCalrandian@kbin.social avatar

The downvote is the feedback

If people are downvoting and not commenting there is probably an obvious reason why.

Usually you just said some type of heresy in that community, like going to a NASA forum and saying it’s idiotic to still be trying for manned space missions to the moon or elsewhere.

It’s so anathema to the community they don’t even want to engage in a discussion about it, they just want to say “you’re wrong/I don’t like this” and move on.

Far more civil than how religions used to deal with heretics, imo

sour, (edited )
@sour@kbin.social avatar

probably

fallacy of relative privation

someguy3,

Lemmy is a fickle place.

Mars2k21,
@Mars2k21@kbin.social avatar

Unfortunately, this is a problem that can't really be resolved. As long as there is a downvote button, it will always be viewed as a dislike button by some people (and I don't know if removing it is a good alternative for such a large social network). It's a problem that would eventually arrive here from Reddit as the community on the Fediverse grew.

There's really nothing we can do about it.

MNByChoice,

True.

A case can be made for a large number of buttons. I wonder if the extra complications of multiple buttons would have a good payoff.

livus,
@livus@kbin.social avatar

You're on kbin though, which doesn't federate downvotes.

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