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dark_stang, in cheapest new computer running linux <$500
@dark_stang@beehaw.org avatar

Desktop or laptop? Do you need peripherals included? Honestly for under $500 I’d highly suggest looking at refurbished machines. You’ll be able to pick up an off-lease Dell or Lenovo or HP system for < $300.

director,
@director@some.institute avatar

Tons of good options in the used enterprise market. 3-5 years old, usually some paths for basic upgrades, as well as a flood of part availability from all the other similar systems being off boarded that were broken and not resellable. Laptops can be a bit roughed up, but full sized and sff desktops are usually in great condition.

SNFi, in Linus Torvalds Announces First Linux Kernel 6.7 Release Candidate

Soon 7.X!

rotopenguin,
@rotopenguin@infosec.pub avatar

Nah, I think the next stop is Linux Vista.

SNFi,

We need still to get into 19.x before changing its name.

joeldebruijn,

Linux 24H1

SNFi,

As far as I know, Linus don’t like numbers larger than 20. 😟

joeldebruijn,

In any numeral system 😁😎

Moobythegoldensock, in Sell Me on Linux

If you’re writing Word documents for your own use, to print, or to convert to PDF, you should be able to switch to LibreOffice seamlessly. However, if you’re emailing .docx files with the expectation that others are going to open them, make changes, save them, and send them back to you, you’re going to need Word or things will get messy. Office 365 online is probably your best bet.

I’ll echo what others are saying and tell you to learn linux at home first. Only use it for business when you’re sure it can do everything you need, and even then you might still want to keep a Windows laptop around in case you need it. Even though Linux is great, the rest of the business world still expects you to be able to work within Windows’ ecosystem.

interdimensionalmeme,

Also that fun thing libre office does where it disappears randomly with your work !

Moobythegoldensock,

Never had that happen to me.

interdimensionalmeme,

I tried OpenOffice and LibreOffice 6 times in 20 years and that happened each time.

oldfart,

Was “your work” writing memory corruption exploits in macro editor?

interdimensionalmeme,

Nope simple excel and word stuff and whoops crash to desktop work is gone

yetAnotherUser,

I’ve heard that OnlyOffice Community Edition is Linux-compatible and has better support for Word documents, but I’ve never tried it myself

Instrument_Data, in Bcache is amazing!: Making HDD way faster!

And in kernel 6.7 BcacheFS will arrive!

Double_A, in Windows 11 vs Linux supported HW
@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Ah yes… it is easy as long as you do something difficult first.

Reminds me of that comment on Dropbox where some guy said it’s going to fail because he can easily build something similar with an ftp server.

AlijahTheMediocre,

Nothing started easy, someone has to figure out the hard part for everyone else to benefit.

capital, in New Fedora Slimbook 14" joins the Fedora Slimbook 16" - Fedora Magazine

Can anyone comment on the battery life on these or Tuxedo?

I love the form factor and battery life of my wife’s MacBook Air but want to go Linux.

Emmeggi95,

I have a Tuxedo InfinityBook Pro 14 gen 6, with 3k display, i7 13370H and a 53 Wh battery. The battery life is… not so great. After watching a 2 hour movie with an external full HD display, the battery loses around 30/40%. Using the laptop display, it would be more than 50%. The average battery life is around 4 hours, but if you tweak the parameters with Tuxedo Control Center, turning off some cores and the fans, and lowering the CPU frequency, it can last more than 6 hours. I feel like this model, with a new CPU and a bigger battery (almost doubled!), should do much better.

capital,

Great info. Thanks!

smileyhead,

I just have new Tuxedo InfinityBook Pro 14 gen 8, same display but i7-13700H and 99Wh batt. The battery is like 8+ hours normal office work.

Just as I bought it they announced new Pulse 14 with 60Wh battery, but that seems more energy efficient components, I wonder how good it would perform.

aksdb,

I have an older InfinityBook and a slightly less older Pulse. What I hate about both is the noise. The fucking fans are so incredibly annoying. Also they are not just loud, they scale up in weird steps (not linear) making it seem like something’s attacking.

In consequence I use it with throttled CPU most of the time, but then even the desktop can become laggy.

Theoretically it’s nice hardware, practically I won’t get another.

Emmeggi95,

My model (the InfinityBook Pro 6) has two fans: when they ramp up they are clearly noticeable, but I don’t think they are that annoying. I feel like the noise is acceptable and justified by the laptop’s thinness, but that’s just my perception and it could be that the thermal department has changed through the generations.

cyberwolfie,

I have an InfinityBook Pro 14 Gen 7, with the RTX 3050 Ti laptop, 2x2TB SSD, Intel i7-12700H and I believe also a 53 Wh battery (did not go for the battery edition with increased capacity, but instead the storage edition).

Even when using the integrated Intel GPU, the battery life is quite bad. With any kind of browser activity, I get about 2-2.5 hours. If I only do reading in Zotero with dark mode, I get up to 5 hours. For my use case, it is fine, but I could not have used this if I was dependent on working with no access to a power outlet.

Otherwise I am quite happy with Tuxedo though, and their support is usually very good. I hope they will succeed long term if they can also continue to improve on their products.

capital,

Thank you. This is very useful input.

jose1324, (edited )

Basically nothing comes close to macbooks with apple silicon. Even the best amd cpu like 7840u with big battery, lcd screen and no dedicated gpu will still only manage around 6 to 8 hours usage. And that’s with it being clocked down to the slow as balls setting.

FishFace,

I get 8-10 on my AMD laptop, but yeah it’s nothing like Apple unfortunately.

jose1324, (edited )

Which laptop and chip. The older zen 3 chips are better at battery life than the new ones unfortunately

FishFace,

Thinkpad X13 with a Ryzen 6850U.

I actually need to send it in for repair - I think the GPU is fucked as I get irregular crashes where the screen(s) all go black, audio keeps playing but input is broken, and other weird things, like sometimes an external monitor flickers and shifts so the left third is actually shown on the right hand side of the screen…

jose1324,

Yeah that chip does better. 7840u and similar does worse in mostly idle and browsing usage

capital,

My wife’s MacBook Air is years old. Doesn’t even have Apple silicon.

But being able to tune the OS to known hardware helps I guess.

avidamoeba, in Firefox (finally) enables Wayland by default on their builds
@avidamoeba@lemmy.ca avatar

Requires login. Any word on when it’s making in stable?

joojmachine,

Updated the link, hopefully it works now. Weirdly enough I was sure the original link I shared didn’t require it

EccTM, in Wayland is a cancer to the Linux desktop.

Nobody is forcing you to use Wayland. Just take up the mantle of maintaining X11 yourself, because nobody is forced to keep that alive either.

logifad501,

But wayland people will call me a bigot for using X11

intelisense,

Trust me, nobody gives a flying fuck what you use.

logifad501,

Then why are dozens of people blindly coaxing people to use wayland for no reason? None of it feels remotely organic.

Certainly_No_Brit, in Wayland is a cancer to the Linux desktop.

I slowly start to believe that sh.itjust.works needs to be defederated. I’ve been seeing too many idiots on that instance lately.

logifad501,

Hahhahaha here we observe a red hat shill in the wild advocating for censorship. I have no words to say.

Certainly_No_Brit,

Do you mean “red hat” for RHEL or USA republicans?

AbidanYre, (edited ) in cheapest new computer running linux &lt;$500

I’ve been eyeing the framework-in-a-case option.

frame.work/…/cooler-master-mainboard-case-and-mai…

bingbong,

Wow, with those mainboard discounts that is a surprisingly cheap option!

Pantherina, in I'm trying to run VirtualBox in Linux Mint but I keep getting an error message about Kernel drivers.

Really try virt-manager with qemu and kvm. It doesnt need any kernel mods.

rufus,

🏆

virt-manager and libvirt. That works quite well and is easy to use. Virtualbox not so much.

PelagiusSeptim, in RHEL and Alma Linux 9.3 arrive – one is free, one merely free of charge

Title seems to suggest that Alma Linux is somehow not free software, which is not justified at all by the article. Unless they are trying to say RHEL is free of charge? Which is also not true or mentioned in the text.

callyral, (edited ) in Wayland is a cancer to the Linux desktop.
@callyral@pawb.social avatar

wayland solved a vsync issue i had with firefox

  • obs works with full screen capture on wlroots and also with per-window capture on kde and gnome
  • redshift is for xorg. use gammastep on wayland instead
logifad501,

Good for you. Wayland solved zero issues and created hundreds of new ones for me and plenty of people.

mojo, in Wayland is a cancer to the Linux desktop.

Schizo post

logifad501,

Wayland shills call everyone names but the moment anyone criticises it they call everyone they don’t like a bigot, get them cancelled and stop any discussion about the negatives of wayland. Why are they so insistent on forcing everyone to adopt an unfinished product? It’s almost like a big corporation with a hat wants to sabotage the linux desktop.

Infernal_pizza, in One single partition for Linux versus using a partition table?
@Infernal_pizza@lemmy.world avatar

Why do you have a btrfs volume and an ext4 volume? I went btrfs and used sub volumes to split up my root and home but I’m not sure if that’s the best way to do it or not

mambabasa,
@mambabasa@slrpnk.net avatar

I use btrfs for my / because I can use Linux Mint’s Timeshift tool to make snapshots, but I don’t want snapshots of /home to be included. Am I doing this wrong?

S410,
@S410@kbin.social avatar

You can put your /home on a different BTRFS subvolume and exclude it from being snapshotted.

mambabasa,
@mambabasa@slrpnk.net avatar

How about when I reinstall the OS? Will it only affect the / and not touch the /home?

S410,
@S410@kbin.social avatar

As long as you don't re-format the partition. Not all installers are created equal, so it might be more complicated to re-install the OS without wiping the partition entirely. Or it might be just fine. I don't really install linux often enough to know that. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Infernal_pizza,
@Infernal_pizza@lemmy.world avatar

Not sure if that’s wrong or not tbh, I use snapper instead of timeshift and I wanted /home included in the snapshots anyway (I think it let me set them up as 2 separate jobs). The reason I went with subvolumes instead of separate partitions is that I didn’t have to worry about sizing. I also know I can reinstall to my root subvolume without affecting the others, depending on the installer for your distro I don’t know how easy that is vs just having separate partitions. I played around with it in a VM for a while to see what the backup and restore process is like before I actually committed to anything!

mambabasa,
@mambabasa@slrpnk.net avatar

Alright, thanks, I’ll try some experiments the next time I have the opportunity to do so.

S410,
@S410@kbin.social avatar

Not OP, but I have the same setup.

I have BTRFS on /, which lives on an SSD and ext4 on an HDD, which is /home. BTRFS can do snapshots, which is very useful in case an update (or my own stupidity) bricks the systems. Meanwhile, /home is filled with junk like cache files, games, etc. which doesn't really make sense to snapshot, but that's, actually, secondary. Spinning rust is slow and BTRFS makes it even worse (at least on my hardware) which, in itself, is enough to avoid using it.

d_k_bo,

HDD, which is /home

Spinning rust is slow

Have you tried to either

  1. put /home on the SSD and only larger subdirectories on the HDD
  2. set eg. XDG_CONFIG_HOME, XDG_CACHE_HOME etc. to a location on the SSD (to improve program startup time)

I have no direct comparison, but I can imagine that this could reduce the performance impact of your HDD.

S410,
@S410@kbin.social avatar

I have a 120 gig SSD. The system takes up around 60 gigs + BTRFS snapshots and its overhead. A have around 15 gigs of wiggle room, on average. Trying to squeeze some /home stuff in there doesn't really seem that reasonable, to be honest.

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