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Pantherina, in 10 REASONS why Linux Mint is the desktop OS to beat in 2023

I too think Cinnamon is a pretty great Experience. I am using KDE and heard from many people that it feels better, its more unified and has way more features.

Wayland is important for security, and Mint will need a long time to adopt that. There are already apps only running on Wayland for reasons.

KDE is a bit unstable as its a huge project. I hope that will get better in Plasma 6.

I sure wish to have something like KDE more stable. But once you are used to it, its just better. Things that are not there yet on Mint are on KDE since years.

Its a bit of a mess as its so old. Extensions need to be cleaned up. But like, Dolphin extensions are so great, I dont know an equivalent on Cinnamon.

Also the distro model is the standard one. A Fedora Atomic Cinnamon variant, with modern presets and everything working, would be a great thing to install anywhere. Automatic atomic updates, easy version upgrades, transparent system changes and resets being just one command away.

stella,

Cinnamon is more unified, but I don’t think any DE has as many features as KDE.

comicallycluttered,

You can get a Cinnamon image via U-Blue.

U-Blue in general is a nice collection of images because not only are there various unofficial options, but a lot of things like RPMFusion, etc. are preconfigured in their versions of the main editions (SilverBlue, Kinoite, Sericea, Onyx).

Or you can just rebase regular SilverBlue (or one of the three other official variants) to one of those images if you’re running it already. Can roll back if you don’t like it.

I doubt there’ll be an official edition until Cinnamon has full Wayland support since Fedora is going all in on that now.

In the meantime, the community has it covered.

Pantherina, (edited )

Right! I have to try that.

Personally I dont care for cinnamon, but it is easy for users and ublue is great.

My personal wishlists are a Fedora-based TV OS, a hardened version and a rawhide kde 6 one

hellvolution, in What has been your experience with Flatpak?
@hellvolution@lemmygrad.ml avatar

Why flatpak when I have apt/.deb? I never needed, at all, any flatpaks

netburnr, in OpenELA makes Enterprise Linux source available
@netburnr@lemmy.world avatar

Good for them. The shit that red hat is doing as far as registration and licensing is a nightmare.

Kidplayer_666, in This week in KDE: Plasma 6 Alpha approaches

I’m so stocked with it! Cant wait for fedora 40 to ship it

stella, in 10 REASONS why Linux Mint is the desktop OS to beat in 2023

I think most mainstream distros have reached a point of diminishing returns, and that’s a good thing.

stella, in How to choose a computer/laptop/device that is better compatible with linux? Are there certain things to look out for when shopping?

Buy it, install Linux, see if it works.

If it doesn’t, return it and buy something else.

Computers usually have 30-days no questions asked return policies.

If you’re listening to people that say to buy specific things, then odds are you going to be paying more for less.

Don’t let their theory replace your experience.

Macaroni9538,

Well that’s the thing, I can’t afford to buy new where you can just return it and all that; I’ll most likely be buying a refurb or used or older but new piece of equipment or possibly piecing together my own, depending on what i can learn about what I need for a smooth and easily fixable linux system

Caboose12000, in What has been your experience with Flatpak?

most flatpaks are awesome, it’s my preferred way to get apps. except for steam and syncthing. for some reason no amount of fuckery in flatseal can get flatpak-steam to correctly recognize my game drive or flatpak-syncthing to actually sync files from certain locations. for everything else tho flatpaks rock

Toribor,
@Toribor@corndog.social avatar

Flatpaks are sandboxed to user space. I use Flatseal which allows you to grant flatpaks additional permissions. I used it to allow the flatpak version of syncthing to sync files that it otherwise lacked read/write permissions for.

That solution has worked really well for me and resolved my main frustration with flatpaks.

Caboose12000,

yeah I mentioned I used flatseal lol. Ive tried giving it specific narrow permissions and I’ve tried just enabling everything and giving it full perms but nothing works great the way other versions of syncthing and steam just work

Pantherina,

Syncthingy works great? Try either Flatseal or KDEs flatpak permission settings to add the directories you are missing. As long as all packages use Portals, either they are completely unisolated or they break in those ways. I prefer the second option and add the needed directories

pastermil, in OpenELA makes Enterprise Linux source available

AlmaLinux is yet to join, it seems. Interesting…

recursive_recursion, (edited ) in Anyone have experience with Intel Arc GPUs?
@recursive_recursion@programming.dev avatar

Does anyone know if the drivers are open source?

I’ve heard conflicting claims online and I saw that Phoronix states that they are but their article doesn’t provide any sources backing up that claim

Static_Rocket,
@Static_Rocket@lemmy.world avatar

github.com/intel/media-driver/

gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/…/meson.build?…

git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/…/i915

Yeah. Only thing missing is the GUC/HUC firmware source and loading that should be optional still.

recursive_recursion,
@recursive_recursion@programming.dev avatar

thank you for the links/references btw! +1

GustavoM, in 10 REASONS why Linux Mint is the desktop OS to beat in 2023
@GustavoM@lemmy.world avatar

Indeed! My grandmother loves it. :^)

Aggravationstation,

And I love your grandmother :D

jeroentbt, in Shoutout to fwupd for updating device firmware

I’m here just to join you shouting out. Great peace of software.

Immersive_Matthew, in 10 REASONS why Linux Mint is the desktop OS to beat in 2023

I sure wish I could get off Windows and onto Linux, but as a VR developer, it really is not feasible. Sucks

Molten_Moron,

At least you get Windows and not the abomination that is MacOS.

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dino,

I’d rather use macOS than windows anyday.

Subverb,

I run a small business, but I’m also I’m an embedded systems developer on ARM processors for my products. Our toolchain is Windows-specific. That and the Adobe suite which I also need for my business keep my primary work machine Windows.

My laptop is Linux but even that creates occasional hassles with my work flow and presentations.

morrowind,
@morrowind@lemmy.ml avatar

What are you developing for? Hololens?

Immersive_Matthew,

Meta Quest and SteamVR.

I_like_cats,

Me here playing VR games on Linux: wut?

Immersive_Matthew,

My VR runs fine on Linux, just I cannot develop it on Linux as the tools are simply not available.

p_q, in How to choose a computer/laptop/device that is better compatible with linux? Are there certain things to look out for when shopping?

they pretty much all run linux ootb. Question is: What devices run without binary blobs underneath the OS?

Macaroni9538,

Sorry, over my head on what a binary blob is lol does it have anything to do with proprietary stuff?

HumanPerson,

IIRC it means a binary large object. Typically a proprietary part of firmware. Commonly needed for WiFi cards but there are other things too.

Macaroni9538,

Aha! so im not so stupid after all lol I was pretty much right. so how do you figure which manufacturers or even models are more open source and less proprietary?

crispy_kilt, in What has been your experience with Flatpak?

I don’t like it. Updating dependencies in case of security problems is impossible, I have to wait for the developer to release an update. Also, it wastes a lot of space. Pollutes df output. App startup is slooow.

Just use the native packaging system! There is no reason software can’t be released using that.

Presi300,
@Presi300@lemmy.world avatar

idk what type of drive you’re using, but flatpak startup times are indistinguishable to me, when compared to native packages. And I’ve used flatpaks on A LOT of computers…

araozu,

Just to provide counter examples, in arch I can’t use the native steam package and play games with proton. It just doesn’t work. I think proton expects some ubuntu libraries or something (found something like that while spending 5 hours debugging nfs heat). And even if I manage to fix it, next time I update the system it’ll be broken again.

I use flatpak, and everything just works.

However, in arch if something is in the official repo or the AUR i prefer those.

In ubuntu I installed krita and gmic, but it doesn’t work. For some reason krita doesn’t find the gmic executable. Instead of debugging krita and gmic for hours I just installed the flatpak version, and it just works.

And yeah, app startup went from 5 to 7-10 seconds in krita, and from 1 to 2-3 seconds in firefox. It’s not snap, it’s 2023, we have SSDs.

themoken,

Really? I use Arch native Steam and Proton no problem. You either use steam-runtime (uses built in Ubuntu runtime) or steam-native (expects Arch packages) but there is a meta package for pulling the runtime deps. Both have worked for me.

That said, Flatpak has come in clutch for me as well on the Steam Deck, and for things like Prism Launcher (modded Minecraft launcher) where you want to juggle multiple Java versions without needing to run archlinux-java between switching packs.

jbk,

Wdym by df pollution? That’s the case with snap, not flatpak

przmk,

There’s a pretty simple reason. It’s that developers don’t have to spend the time to package for every single distro. I know I wouldn’t, I’d just focus on packaging for the distro that I use and flatpak. Having flatpak also means that some less known distros start with a big amount of apps available from the get go with flatpak.

Pantherina,

I see that fragmentation of runtimes is a problem. If all apps would simply use the same runtime, and a modern one, and there was a package manager that installs the missing dependencies, that would be nice.

The diskspace is a true problem too, just because of the fragmented runtimes.

But Distros are fragmented too. If simply everyone could unify, at least a bit, instead of at least 5 different big Distros competing, every app could just work. But thats not the case, so Flatpaks often work best, and maany packages are either only .deb, .rpm or even only on Arch

thecrotch, in How to choose a computer/laptop/device that is better compatible with linux? Are there certain things to look out for when shopping?

I usually go for business level dells, like latitudes. They’re the go-to for corporations so they’re usually pretty well supported simply because they’re so common

Macaroni9538,

I have also heard this sentiment, that enterprise/business level hardware is best, even for personal use

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