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Vilian, in Easy way to try out a bunch of different DEs?

NixOS or fedora ostree

WeLoveCastingSpellz, in Some of y'all need to see this and drop the superiority complex...

hey. Nobara 39

specter2426, in What's your current favorite distro that isn't Arch, Debian or Fedora?

I really enjoy ZorinOS! I’ve been using ZorinOS 16.3 and am awaiting the upgrade to 17 through their tool. It’s been great for a PC that has an Nvidia GTX1060 that I have hooked up to my TV as a twitch/YouTube/Netflix box. I chose Zorin because they claimed to get the Nvidia drivers installed correctly “out of the box”, and they delivered!

474D,

Glad it worked well for you. Didn’t work well for me with my 2070 super. Was immediately broken and refused to acknowledge my second monitor. Linux Mint worked perfectly, so I just want to throw that out there for anyone with the same gpu

specter2426,

Man that sucks that it didn’t work for you out of the box. I had tried Solus and Ubuntu 20.04/22.04 and I couldn’t get the screen to resize past the default 800x600 or something like that and the refresh rate was stuck at a low number. Zorin did it all straight away. I hope more distros start getting the whole picture right soon. Glad you found something that worked for you too!

exocrinous, in Some of y'all need to see this and drop the superiority complex...

Xbox OS is clearly winning with the 360

embed_me,
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But they went back to one so idk anymore

Aradia, in Easy way to try out a bunch of different DEs?
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Well, if you are new to Linux, it is better if you just install new distros to try them, I would go to Arch Linux as it’s the cleanest distro, I could install multiple DE without issues, but then it’s a bit mess of packages, also it’s harder to install, you need to type archinstall and understand their options. I have a desktop and laptop and I always use the laptop for testing, if you copy the ~/.config folder, you can restore all your applications settings (just copy the app settings you are using), ~/.mozilla to restore your browser as you had it before the wipe and some more settings are under ~/.local. I also copy my ~/.zshrc because I have a custom prompt, configs, add-ons, alias…

datavoid, in What's your current favorite distro that isn't Arch, Debian or Fedora?

I discovered this on Lemmy, clearly there is no going back

hannahmontana.sourceforge.net

twei,

Wait until you hear about biebian

uriel238, in Some of y'all need to see this and drop the superiority complex...
@uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

We don’t have a consistent convention as to what changes qualify for a version increment rather than update increment. A new kernel? A new interface convention? New icons for the mini-apps?

Windows 10 has more plug-and-play drivers than Win7 and Win8. It can recognize newer hardware and it can be installed natively from thumb drives. So a lot of features that were third party are now offical… long after I had access to the third-party libraries.

But then it combines the metro and the start menu. I never found a use for the metro.

Win11 is less operability and more DRM and more spyware.

For Apple and Microsoft, a new version is a new marketing season. It’s the same as the new iPhone, the new Subaru.

I assume Linux builds increment with significant operability additions, especially if they’re not fully backwards compatible. Since they’re released without charge the capacity to do more stuff is the only reason to upgrade to a new increment rather than preserving a stable version.

state_electrician,

You are taking this dumb joke way too seriously.

uriel238,
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I get that a lot.

redcalcium, (edited )

The version number will be incremented when Linus says so. He might even increment it to 7.x tomorrow if he feels like it.

uriel238, (edited )
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Which only adds bas relief to the point. Linus has no personal or commercial motivation to get people to get the hot new trendy thing. Linux isn’t motivated by built-in obsolescence the way Windows and iOS are.

In fact, their higher iteration indicators are a symptom of a disadvantage of the operating system, not an advantage.

Celestial6370, in I'm so frustrated rn.

I’m a recent Linux convert I started with Debian testing and that worked out of the box for everything except Nvidia drivers. I hopped from Debian testing over to Pop Os because Debian testing wasn’t supported for a bunch of random things I wanted to use. I stopped using pop os a couple of weeks ago because it would crash all the time and was going to jump to Ubuntu just so pretty much everything would be supported. That flash drive install was corrupted so I ended up on nobara and have loved it with no issues so far.

rodbiren, in I'm so frustrated rn.

Linux Mint is where I always go crawling back to. I have hopped so damn much. Mint sometimes needs a newer kernel installed, but I’ll be damned if that Ubuntu base doesn’t help with printers, graphics drivers, and scanners. Getting that to work on Arch was a blast and a half, on Mint I literally just turned my network printer on and it found it. IDK, you can do anything and there is always some issue eventually.

Aradia, in Linux 6.8 Network Optimizations Can Boost TCP Performance For Many Concurrent Connections By ~40%
@Aradia@lemmy.ml avatar

Now, gamers will want to play on Linux for the low latency on online games.

WMTYRO,

Unfortunately, many games where people care about that lower latency tend to be competitive with some kind of anti-cheat that doesn’t mesh with Linux.

WindowsEnjoyer,

Before that you have to download it. Well, using p2p mechanisms.

Aradia, (edited )
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I always download my games before playing them. I don’t know what you mean here.

neurospice,

I think they mean peer to peer ^arrr^

Aradia,
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But is that related to my comment? I don’t understand why he’s talking about downloading games via P2P.

WindowsEnjoyer,

Arrrrr 😅😅😅

Aradia,
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🤯

taladar,

Most low latency use cases in games use UDP, not TCP.

Aradia,
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Yeah, that would make sense as opening TCP connections is not really viable for low latency, hahaha.

taladar,

Opening the connections is one thing but resends and stream ordering can also cause issues since they might delay the latest information reaching the user space application even if the packet for them has actually arrived just because some earlier packet has not. There can also be issues with implementations waiting for enough data to be available before sending a packet.

Atemu,
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Depends. There was that one F2P COD clone which used TCP and IIRC it did fine?

icydefiance,

If your connection is stable, the latency will more or less be the same, but TCP will consume more bandwidth because of acknowledgement packets, making it harder to keep your connection stable.

On an unstable connection, TCP latency will skyrocket as it resends packets, while UDP will just drop those packets unless the game engine has its own way of resending them. Most engines have that, but they only do it for data that is marked as “important”. For example using an item is important, but the position of your character probably isn’t, because it’ll be updated on the next tick anyway.

pandacoder,

Unless it’s a Java Minecraft server which I believe exclusively uses TCP still.

Guenther_Amanita, (edited ) in Easy way to try out a bunch of different DEs?

There are a few different ways:

  • VM: doesn’t give you the “real” experience. Often feels sluggish.
  • Installation via package manager: really clutters and messes up your system. There are many dependencies, and then you’ll have 5 different file managers for example.
  • Ventoy: the second best option, or the best, if you just wanna take a look at each. If you really want to try the DE for a few days, it isn’t suited of course.
  • Fedora Atomic (immutable variants like Silverblue): there’s a project called uBlue, that provides images for all DEs. You can install the vanilla Silverblue, and then rebase to each according image. Your custom installed programs and personal data stay intact, but everything else gets swapped out cleanly. Each rebase would take ~5 minutes and one reboot, but it feels like you reinstalled your OS and changed the flavor.
Cyberflunk, in Easy way to try out a bunch of different DEs?

Maybe this will help github.com/89luca89/distrobox

g_damian,
AlmightySnoo, in Linux in the corporate space
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It depends. I’m working in the quant department of a bank and we work on pricing libraries that the traders then use. Since traders often use Excel and expect add-ins, we have a mostly Windows environment. Our head of CI, a huge Windows and Powershell fan, once then decided to add a few servers with Linux (RHEL) on them to have automated Valgrind checks and gcc/clang builds there to continuously test our builds for warnings, undefined behavior (gcc with O3 does catch a few of them) and stuff.

I thought cool, at least Linux is making it into this department. Then I logged into one of those servers.

The fucker didn’t like the default file system hierarchy and did stuff like /Applications and `/Temp’ and is installing programs by manually downloading binaries and extracting them there.

knexcar, (edited )

To be fair, the three-letter directories aren’t particularly intuitive. “Bin”? Like the “Recycle Bin”? Or is it short for “Binary” files? But isn’t everything on the computer stored in binary? Is “dev” for developers? Is “run” for running programs? Is “opt” for options? What is “ect” even for, files that can’t find another home? In Windows, the folder names make sense and have complete sentences like “Program Files” and “Users”. I can understand someone wanting to replicate the same thing on Linux.

Hadriscus,

what do all these mean ? if you have a good resource at hand

VelveteenUnderground,
Hadriscus,

Cheers

bhamlin, in What's your current favorite distro that isn't Arch, Debian or Fedora?

I miss slackware.

It still kinda exists, but really has become a ghost of its former self.

Lettuceeatlettuce, in I'm so frustrated rn.
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For first time plug-n-play distros, I either go with Linux Mint or Fedora, for me they have the best results for just working.

And make sure when installing them, you always check to use proprietary drivers and codecs if it’s an option, that will save you a bunch of trouble down the line.

UnfortunateShort,

Funnily enough, Fedora is the only distro I’ve ever had and still have the infamous Linux sound driver problems with

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