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Samsy, in Some of y'all need to see this and drop the superiority complex...

If people really get triggered by this bullshit graph, let’s add Arch Linux which is on what? >200? >300?

aBundleOfFerrets,

Arch doesn’t have a global version

Samsy,

I know but if I remember correctly there is a version tag at boot, 230 or something was the last I’ve seen.

aBundleOfFerrets,

I think that is the version for the archiso build, and I don’t think it should be used as a version for the OS

fallingcats, (edited )

Clearly the current version is 2024.01.01

Current Release: 2024.01.01
Included Kernel: 6.6.8
ISO Size: 883.3 MB

aBundleOfFerrets,

Well shit I guess we win then

Grass, in I'm so frustrated rn.

Linux is kinda like a 3d printer. You can end up tinkering and tuning more than printing.

2d printers are just cursed and have been since the dawn of mankind though. Go to openprinting.org/printers/ and see if your printer is in there and if it is which functionality header it is under. I’m assuming it isn’t capable of driverless if debian didn’t work and the other distro just happened to have something preinstalled. Unless debian doesn’t handle driverless printing out of the box. I’ve only used debian headless for server stuff so I’m just making assumptions.

Arch maintainers recommend against aur helpers but for quite some time I just did exactly that and got the drivers for whatever jank ass printer I had at the time that way. Most of the official ones I have encountered are rpm and I hadn’t used fedora or other rpm distros until recently, and the aur pkgbuilds would unpack the rpm and install the drivers the arch way. Incidentally, last I tried silverblue/ublue/kinoite etc can’t install the brother printer rpms via rpm-ostree so having a driverless capable printer was lucky considering it was just randomly given to me by a friend that moved away.

If you share the printer model, someone here can probably also figure out what needs to be done without you having to go through a bunch of troubleshooting too.

d3Xt3r, in What's your current favorite distro that isn't Arch, Debian or Fedora?

Bazzite. It’s based on Fedora uBlue so it’s technically Fedora, but being an immutable OS, it works quite differently enough that it counts as its own distro. For instance, you don’t use dnf or yum to install stuff, you’d use Flatpak/Distrobox/Nix. Updates are done using the rpm-ostree command, and it’s effectively a rolling release model, but atomic in nature so you get none of the instability that you’d get in a typical rolling release.

GammaGames, in What's your current favorite distro that isn't Arch, Debian or Fedora?

elementary!

xantoxis, in Some of y'all need to see this and drop the superiority complex...

well, 23 years ago this graph would have had windows 2000 WAY in the lead.

replicat,

Anime PFP leads me to believe OP uses arch btw.

duncesplayed, in Some of y'all need to see this and drop the superiority complex...

Isn’t it Mac OS X 14? I.e., Mac OS 10.14?

dizzy,
@dizzy@lemmy.ml avatar

No they ditched OSX and yearly point updates in 2020 and went from Mac OSX 10.15.7 to MacOS 11.0

The next yearly release was MacOS 12.

It’s now up to 14.2.1

duncesplayed,

Ah thanks for that! You can tell how long it’s been since I’ve used Mac OS.

sfxrlz,

Do you know why?

Korne127,
@Korne127@lemmy.world avatar

Actually yeah

In 2000, Steve Jobs announced Mac OS X as the operating system for the next 20 years. So they kept the version for 20 years and well… in 2020 they started to make the yearly updates be major version number updates again (instead of minor version numbers).

Also @dizzy

dizzy,
@dizzy@lemmy.ml avatar

Probably just wanted a higher number than windows or didn’t want to get leapfrogged. Also makes more sense with iOS having a similar schedule.

muhyb, in Easy way to try out a bunch of different DEs?

Gentoo used to have a live CD with almost every DE / WM in it. Not sure if it’s still around though.

nyan,

The last one is from 2017, alas. The current Gentoo GUI ISO only includes KDE and fluxbox ( full package list, just in case someone’s really bored and wants a look).

prenatal_confusion, in Distro for POS

If the erp is Browser based then a lightweight distro with a Browser of your choice. Like Debian.

JokeDeity, (edited ) in Some of y'all need to see this and drop the superiority complex...

14 versions and they still haven’t got it right? SMH.

1984, (edited )
@1984@lemmy.today avatar

Yeah all I see is 14 huge failures. :)

Linux version 6 is a bit of a stretch though since it’s just the kernel. I guess they could have put Ubuntu 23 up there to make it “win”…

jalda,

Fedora 39 is clearly superior to Ubuntu 23

1984,
@1984@lemmy.today avatar

I guess. I had lots of issues with Fedora in the past so can’t recommend it personally but some people like it.

lal309, in Distro for POS

Personal opinion. If you successfully booted Debian, stick with it. No need to try out a bunch of distros. Debian is well known, well supported, tons of resources AND everything works out of the box with your POS systems. Sold!

errorlab, (edited )

Sold!

Can I get a recipet please?

Thank you, all great points and I’m gonna go with Debian and xfce as DE to keep light.

Aurenkin,

Sold!

Heh, well done fellow internet person.

lal309,

Glad you liked it fellow inter webs person!

A7thStone, in What's your current favorite distro that isn't Arch, Debian or Fedora?

I’ve been using Opensuse since it was called SuSE. Tumbleweed is great.

BCsven, (edited ) in I'm so frustrated rn.

You will get tons of distro recommendations, so here is one more: OpenSUSE, then use the YAST GUI GTK application select Yast Printer it has a GUI tool for all kinds of printer setup options and will show recommended drivers based on printer type, it then installs them via that GUI. Not to be confused with the regular printer settings app you see in most distros.

https://lemmy.ca/pictrs/image/99e794fb-7b93-4e76-8bc8-d57ccd4b1f31.png

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corsicanguppy,

I worked with SuSE. I still have PTSD over how badly it’s built. Never again.

BCsven,

How long ago? Everyone has an opinion and preference, but SUSE and RHEL are the only two certifed distros for corporate/ enterprise use of Teamcenter PLM and NX CAD…so it cannot be as “badly” built as you feel it is because it has to perform everyday with the least amount of issues.

stevecrox,

I suspect they mean around packaging.

I honestly believe Red Hat has a policy that everything should pull in Gnome. I have had headless RHEL installs and half the CLI tools require Gnome Keyring (even if they don't deal with secrets or store any). Back in RHEL 7, Kate the KDE based Text Editor pulled in a bunch of GTK dependencies somehow.

Certification is really someone paid to go through a process and so its designed so they pass.

Think about the people you know who are Agile/Cloud/whatever certified and how all it means is they have learnt the basic examples.

Its no different when a business gets certified.

The only reason people care is because they can point to the cert if it all goes wrong

BCsven,

I wrote a long reply but looks like posting it glitched. I’ll try shortening. I should have noted that the Certification on SUSE and RHEL, is also a certification compatibility matrix. distro ver to software ver, and Siemens needs stable Windows, SUSE, RHEL releases to code to. Trying to install/running on other distros fails in many areas (even with an experiences guru trying fixes). They have a symbiotic relationahip with those curated distros to ensure it doesnt give downtime to a large enterprise. It is not just a piece of paper saying yes we tested the software install here is your signoff. Personally I did get it running on OpenSUSE for obvious reasons.

stevecrox,

I wouldn't use "certified" in this context.

Limiting support of software to specific software configurations makes sense.

Its stuff like Debian might be using Python 3.8 Ubuntu Python 3.9, OpenSuse Python 3.9, etc.. Your application might use a Python 3.9 requiring library and act odd on 3.8 but fine on 3.7, etc.. so only supporting X distributions let you make the test/QA process sane.

This is also why Docker/Flatpack exist since you can define all of this.

However the normal mix is RHEL/Suse/Ubuntu because those target businesses and your target market will most likely be running one.

BCsven,

Yeah it is a Known Known and those 3 distros have tried and true reliability. The term certified is what they call it “Certified to run on X” and “Compatibility CertifIcation” it was in response to OP asking if linux is used in corporate world. It is, and for larger operations it is the 3 you mention. Personally I think Ubuntu hasn’t made it into the Corporate Desktop apps like SUSE/REL because you install it and have a hairy hippo or faceted cougar head as the backdrop, just doesn’t sit well with CEO stuffed shirt types when looking for a professional software.

p03locke, in Some of y'all need to see this and drop the superiority complex...
@p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I’m going to invoke Poe’s Law and not assume this is sarcasm.

CallumWells,

Is that that thing where someone says something wrong to get the right answer explained to them?

p03locke,
@p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

No, that’s the thing where somebody Googles the result and gets the right answer.

tho, in What's your current favorite distro that isn't Arch, Debian or Fedora?
@tho@lemmy.ml avatar

Alpine

blipblip, in What's your current favorite distro that isn't Arch, Debian or Fedora?

Nix

toastal,

Package manager or language?

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