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sebsch, in wayland, not even once

Let Wayland not destroy everything and then have other people fix the damage it caused.

Here I stopped reading. This can’t be more then a salty bullshit post with nothing than unfair assumptions.

db2,

The only one that really might have some merit is the argument about portability.

hunger,
@hunger@programming.dev avatar

Small communities have a hard time staying up to date. X11 was ported decades ago, when non Linux OSes had more mind share and commercial backing. I doubt anyone could port X11 if that was the new thing mainly developed on Linux today.

mnmalst, (edited ) in An Untold History of Thunderbird

In addition, we’re going to develop the tools that give people choices other than the big three.

This sentence at the very end makes me very curious. Is this a hint for a Thunderbird mail service or something similar?

On the one hand I would love to have a mail service offered by the Thunderbird team that would also fund Thunderbird development. On the other hand it’s probably not a good idea to split the development resources too thin.

kixik,

Well, there are alternatives. There’s /e/ (murena.io now a days) and distroot, and you can use gnupg with others who also use gnupg, and with distroot you can use its own encryption as well. There’s tutanota and prrotonmail, which use their own encryption mechanisms but only work with the same providers and not with other providers…

I mean there are already several non big corps providers of email. Distroot also provides xmpp, nextcloud, and several other services, the same as /e/. I can’t tell I’d trust more TB than the alternatives, several of them are non profit. But there are options. It’s sad before smart phones, some big corps were already dominating the services, and after them, things got even worse. But there have been, and still are, options for refugees. That’s not the issue in my mind.

The big issue, is that those big corps do what they want, excluding those not using them. All of them, no exception, place received messages from /e/ to the spam, that if the email even reaches the final user, some times it gets discarded by the service without even getting to the end receiver. Several mail registrations for whatever account, banks, insurance, stores and so on, don’t even accept email addresses if not from the big corps. So the huge and toxic influence from big corps doesn’t get corrected by another non big corp service. It’s like with FLOSS alternatives, or more private alternatives in general, the issue is the power most users give to those big corps. Most users prefer those corps services, at times ignoring the non big corps are not less comfortable, but most of the time they don’t even care, even if told there are easy enough alternative they would still select big corps. Then with such power, big corps not only dominate, but also discriminate non big corps users…

mnmalst,

I am aware, I am using an alternative service myself for several years now. My point was that having an email service that helps fund Thunderbird would be nice. Furthermore, more alternative that ethically align with my views are always good.

archomrade, (edited )

I’m curious about this too.

A lot of self-hosted FOSS people draw the line at hosting their own mail servers. Even if Mozilla created a new domain hosting server for handling, the big three could still reject the traffic like they do for people hosting outside the three now, under the guise of spam filtering.

I’d be ecstatic if they did something here, but I’m not really clear on what a solution would look like. On top of them spreading thin as you mentioned

*edited ‘domain’ service to ‘hosting’ service

Kidplayer_666,

I have my own domain (even if hosted on a relatively small provider) and I don’t have that much of an issue tbh?

FigMcLargeHuge,

Just curious what you are using. I have a domain as well, and occasionally consider setting up another email server for it. I also still have some old old accounts that are still linked to my domain email, but I just haven’t run an email server in years. Is it something turnkey that I don’t need to spend weeks configuring? In fact I might only turn it on long enough to receive emails so that I can change the accounts.

Kidplayer_666,

I am not happy with my provider, currently waiting for the email hosting to expire so that I can maintain just the domain there and eventually user zoho for hosting

FigMcLargeHuge,

Thanks. I will take a look.

dan,
@dan@upvote.au avatar

I use Mailcow and it works well. Easy to configure, and it uses Docker so it’s self-contained and very easy to move to a new server if you ever need to do that.

I’m using an SMTP relay for outbound emails, though. I didn’t want to have to deal with IP reputation issues, especially with Microsoft/Hotmail. I’m hosting my server on a VPS, and spammers in the same subnet can result in the entire subnet getting blocklisted. Configuring a relay is easy in Mailcow’s UI, and can be configured per domain.

archomrade,

I edited the comment, I really meant hosting server, not domain.

Having a custom domain isn’t a big deal, it’s really where that domain is hosted that creates forwarding issues. Since the majority of email is handled by the ‘big three’, anything that’s hosted outside of that is often flagged as spam or is refused to be delivered. That’s allegedly because there are malicious senders also hosted on third party servers (and fair enough, there likely are), but this causes a bit of a potential monopoly that could easily be abused, and there’s obvious motivation to push people into a particular service for data collection.

Even if it doesn’t happen often, occasional failures can be a huge problem if you’re sending critical communication and it isn’t reaching target inboxes because of filtering. It’s enough of a headache that even most avid self-hosters tend to avoid it.

Kidplayer_666,

That is absolutely unreasonable, as the email files don’t actually tell you who the sender is beyond the domain from where it’s sent. The email protocol is SUPER unsafe and really really easy to spoof as someone from the big three

archomrade,

My understanding is that it’s a combination of correctly deploying authentication (DMARC, DKIM, and SPF) and the actual IP address of the server that can get you into trouble. If you incorrectly set up authentication, OR if a malicious sender spoofs you (likely because you didn’t set up auth correctly), it can get your IP blocklisted. And unless you’re monitoring if you’re blocklisted, you often don’t know that things aren’t getting delivered until someone tells you.

And then you’re still kind of at the whim of the big players, because they could change or update their authentication standards, and if you’re not on top of it you can find yourself in the same boat, even if you’re doing everything else right.

It’s not impossible, it’s just a headache. But if i’m being honest, i’m a bit of a novice so it could be easier to a more trained network administrator.

teh_shame, in Any way of reinstalling Fedora 39 while on Fedora 38?

The options when you boot are the kernel versions not the Fedora version. You’re not booting into Fedora 38, you’re booting Fedora 39 with a 38 kernel.

There’s nothing wrong with using a Fedora 38 kernel on 39 if it works. There’s probably a kernel bug affecting your computer in the current 39 kernel that’s making it not work

The easiest solution will be to wait for a new kernel and hope it fixes this bug

redimk,
@redimk@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Sorry for my ignorance, but how does that work? I (think) I understand what a kernel is, but how am I using Fedora 39 with a 38 kernel? Is there a documentation I can read somewhere so I can understand how that works?

Today it got fixed somehow, I just booted up Fedora 39 and it just worked. Also thanks a lot for the answer!

Maoo, in Amazon Building its Own Linux-Based OS to Replace Android
@Maoo@hexbear.net avatar

Surely this other monopoly will save us

roo,
@roo@lemmy.one avatar

It’s a new management objective.

Cossty, in GNOME Recognized as Public Interest Infrastructure

Will we finally get properly working system tray? Man can dream…

TheGrandNagus,

They’ve been trying to make a cross-desktop standard for a little while now, but progress is certainly slow :/

Quik, in GNOME Recognized as Public Interest Infrastructure

Great News!

KingThrillgore, in Imagine Linux on an Arm SoC that benchmark better than Apple's M2 Max!
@KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml avatar

Qualcomm you say?

I’ll believe it when it ships

the_lone_wolf,
@the_lone_wolf@lemmy.ml avatar

Qualcomm is my main fear also. They will ship it with lots of closed source firmware digitally signed with their private keys which users can’t replace so expect a shitty bootloader and don’t forget about always running hypervisior, trust zone and world most kept secret modem

Petter1, in Imagine Linux on an Arm SoC that benchmark better than Apple's M2 Max!

I hope for Microsoft to just give up and build a new "windows“ which is just an other Linux distro xD

Ducking windows can’t even clone the Linux kernel right now

jsh,

That’d be based, but I don’t think there’s anything in that for them.

Petter1,

Well, I’m sure they find a way.

Duxon,

They’re a platform company that provides services. They could build proprietary services on top of a Linux distro. Basically the same as they’re doing now with Edge.

Cysioland, (edited )
@Cysioland@lemmygrad.ml avatar

They’ll probably sooner embrace-extend-extinguish Linux with WSL

vanderbilt,
@vanderbilt@beehaw.org avatar

IIRC Microsoft’s woes in the ARM space is two-fold. First is the crushing legacy compatibility and inability to muster developers around anything newer than win32, and second was signing a deal to make Qualcomm the exclusive ARM processors for Windows for who knows how long.

the_lone_wolf,
@the_lone_wolf@lemmy.ml avatar

Deal is going to expire in 2024!

SNFi, in 8 Websites Linux Users Should Have bookmarked

Ubuntu blog? GamingOnLinux? Reddit? 🤣 no, thanks. No Ubuntu, I don’t play games, I don’t like Reddit. The other websites I already do unless Explainshell which seems cool for newbies.

DuffmanOfTheCosmos,

I didnt know about Explainshell before this post and it looks like an excellent site to share with some of the greener Linux sysadmins on my team at work. I’ve just set a reminder to share it Monday morning

SNFi,

It’s worth to read the post just to discover this. 😆 Explainshell look good enough to be used not only by newbies, very good hints and explanation with manpages.

DerisionConsulting, in Fedora or Mint for noob?

From your post:

laptop he uses for university. He’s not a tinkerer and wants something that just works.

Mint:

Linux Mint is known for being very user-friendly and stable. Also easy to get help online.

Fedora:

have to install media codecs via terminal

university wifi eduroam doesn’t work on Fedora

less help on the web for Fedora than Mint.

Unless you’re sure that screen stuttering is going to be a major annoyance, you know what I am going to suggest.

Skelectus,
@Skelectus@suppo.fi avatar

university wifi eduroam doesn’t work on Fedora

As a fedora eduroam user I’m pretty sure it does.

DerisionConsulting,

I was just quoting OP. I am making no claims of my own.

Skelectus,
@Skelectus@suppo.fi avatar

Yeah, I missed that. Sorry, guess I should pay more attention.

jack,

Fair enough.

mark, in Any C# devs want to share their setup?
@mark@infosec.pub avatar

I do all my editing in neovim, with omnisharp as an lsp. It works pretty well. Happy to send you my dotfiles if you want.

As far as deployment, dotnet just runs on Linux now, especially if you’re do8ng web, its all the same. I deploy through containers to kubernetes, and its super smooth

marlowe221,

Yes, please!

rfvizarra,

I would love to use neovim for my work C# development.

I’ve tried omnisharp with vscode in the past, but I found I had to restart it frequently. Hopely it would be more stable now

Can you please share your dotfiles?

mark, (edited )
@mark@infosec.pub avatar

Just sent them to you.

Once in a blue moon i have to restart omnisharp, but its just a simple lsp restart

Much less often these days then even a year ago

I also use neovim through WSL on windows to do work

beeng,

What is your container base image?

mark,
@mark@infosec.pub avatar

I use the dotnet/sdk image to build and publish into the dotnet/aspnet for runtime since it’s smaller. Both from mcr.microsoft.com

beeng,

They are windows or Linux base?

mark,
@mark@infosec.pub avatar

All linux! I think debian, though they have alpine images too.

I wouldnt wish windows containers on my worst enemy haha.

beeng, (edited )

Oh I didn’t think mcr.microsoft provided Linux base, ok good to know.

I’ve reviewed a few PRs with that in the dockerfile and thought it was always windows based, good to know!

mark,
@mark@infosec.pub avatar

I think there are windows containers available, but even M$ has given up pushing windows server for cloud native stuff. All their tutorial docs for containers use linux haha

loops,

As a non-programmer, this entire comment sounds straight out of a Neal Stephenson sci-fi story.

beeng,

I understood it all, but i didn’t feel special until you said that!

loops,

You are all progenitors to the ITA.

mark,
@mark@infosec.pub avatar

Software devs have a lot of technobabble haha!

cyborganism, in Surface Laptop 3 running Kubuntu, such an improvement over what it was "designed" for.

I have an OG Surface Pro. The first one. It’s running Windows 10 at the moment and it’s doing fine except for the occasional wifi/Bluetooth bugs. I’m using it exclusively in tablet mode with the pen. No keyboard.

When Windows 10 is going to reach its end of life, I’d like to install Linux on it. But I need it to have a tablet style interface with gestures if possible.

Do I need any special distro or drivers on that hardware? And what would you recommend as the desktop environment?

krash,

I had one of those too! Sturdy little guy, reminds me a bit of the first eeepc 701 :-) But I was worried about the replacement of the charger once it would die. Besides, I have had a bad experience of Surface-line longevity, they always seem to die suddenly after a while, so I sold it.

cyborganism,

Hey, you wanna know something about the EeePC?

I was the build engineer that automated the process that put together the Linux OS for those things back in the day.

krash,

That is so awesome. Do you still have one lying around? Those things have an awesome form factor, but the I/O ports are a little bit dated by todays standard 😅

cyborganism,

Nah. The hardware wasn’t very good and it was very slow. I had a 7" and a 9" one. I replaced them with the surface pro.

The company was going to make custom Linux based OSes for other smart devices like TVs and monitors but Android came out and was backed by Google, so of course it became wildly popular. Our company went bankrupt pretty quickly after that because it had no the contracts coming in. Asus was the only client keeping them afloat and the contract was ending.

julianh,

You’ll definitely need this: github.com/linux-surface/linux-surface

Gnome is probably the best with touchscreens. I had issues with Ubuntu though so you probably want something more up to date, like fedora or arch.

cyborganism,

Very cool. Thank you for this.

joojmachine,

Also, highly recommend checking out Universal Blue’s Surface images! It’s pretty much everything you need out of the box! universal-blue.org/images/surface/?h=surface

cyborganism,

That’s even better! Thank you!

cyborganism,

To add another comment to your reply, have you tried it personally?

I’d like to back up my system before doing the switch. What do you recommend I use? Clonezilla with an external USB drive all plugged in using a USB hub?

joojmachine,

I haven’t tried the Surface images due to not having one, but I am using their Silverblue images to make the whole NVIDIA drivers thing a bit easier on my system.

Also I haven’t needed to backup my system in over a year now (I stopped hopping with Silverblue) so I don’t remember the solution I used, but this seems good.

Gebruikersnaam,
@Gebruikersnaam@lemmy.ml avatar

Yeah, Fedora runs with wayland by default, which is really nice for touchscreens.

Dirk, in Fedora, Arch, or EndeavourOS?
@Dirk@lemmy.ml avatar

Nothing beats the Arch wiki, to be honest. One of the best and broadest collections of useful information around the web. And since Arch is not-too-modified in relation to upstream, all of the information is usable for most a lot of other distributions, too.

And yes: I’m using Arch, btw.

To be more specific: I’m running Arch with Hyprland (a tiling compositor for Wayland) on my DELL XPS 13 without any issues, running Arch with Openbox (X11) on my main computer since over a decade without any major issues (device is used for gaming, multimedia, video and image editing and screen recording), and on all devices I serve something from.

Since I run Arch as a server (had it as communication server, as DHCP/DNS server, as VPN endpoint on a Raspberry Pi, and as a gaming server, currently on my main server it’s used as host for a Docker setup), I can tell you, you don’t need to worry about any real issues regarding stability and performance. Arch is way less bleeding edge as non-Arch users think. Just update regularly every 2-3 weeks at least, and check the news before doing so.

I’m curious to hear about your experiences and recommendations!

It boils down to what effort you want to put into it.

If university and work usage is mainly running productivity stuff like some type of text processing or using web-based applications you likely won’t ever have any issues. If you’re constantly switching environments, need to run specific apps (maybe even 32-bit software), constantly use different video outputs, tons of different BT devices, etc. … well … Arch is of course capable of everything the bigger distributions have to offer by default (all the nice “magic” stuff that happens automatically in the background), you just need to set everything up by yourself.

I might be biased towards Arch, but maybe just try if it fits your intended purpose and if you’re willing to set up everything at least once before using it.

banazir, in What are some interesting devices powered by Linux?
@banazir@lemmy.ml avatar
risencode, in Why more PC gaming handhelds should ditch Windows for SteamOS

Yes, the extremely popular handheld PC gaming market.

freebee,

It’s small, but growing very fast. While actual PC has stagnated, no?

sleepyTonia,
@sleepyTonia@programming.dev avatar

Hasn’t Steam just beat its record of simultaneously online users? And while I’m sure Steam Decks contributed to this, we’re taking of numbers an order of magnitude bigger. Hell, PC gaming is doing so well that we’re seeing until then console exclusive games come out on Steam.

UsernameIsTooLon,

I think the problem is that it’s super popular for those who already own a PC and have a huge Steam Library. I got console friends wanting a Steam Deck but ultimately don’t want to buy one because it means rebuying their games.

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