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Phoenix3875, (edited ) in Some of y'all need to see this and drop the superiority complex...

This, but unironically used as a marketing trick:

There was no v1 of Oracle Database, as co-founder Larry Ellison “knew no one would want to buy version 1”

That’s why the first Oracle database is v2.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oracle_Database

dankm,

Slackware went from version 4 to 7 for a similar reason. But IIRC its reason was RedHat.

Evotech,

That’s a fun fact

FuglyDuck,
@FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

this is what happened to windows 9, too.

juja,

What’s wrong with 9 though ? Didn’t iPhone also skip 9 ?

FuglyDuck,
@FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

Dunno. But that’s a hardware model, ;)

hedgehog,

After the X/XS/XR phones they went to the 11. If the XS was 10 then the X would be 9. It is a bit weird for them to do 8 and 9 at the same time, though.

AVincentInSpace, (edited )

but the X is a Roman numeral hence why Apple demands that OSX be pronounced as “OS ten”

(I have not heard anyone who is not an Apple employee call it that but it’s the official stance, you can look it up)

Nibodhika,

No, the problem with Windows 9 is that a lot of things compared the version with 9* as a catch all for windows 95 and 98, so they were worried with backwards compatibility.

Xatolos,
@Xatolos@reddthat.com avatar

There wasn’t a Windows 9 because a lot of (poorly) written software will do a system check for Windows version and if the first number is “9”, it won’t work and complain that you need to be using a Windows OS newer than Windows 9x (95/98).

It was just for backwards compatibility more than anything.

ArcaneSlime, in TIL that operating system Linux is an example of anarcho-communism

Idk, technically voluntary association is a key tenet of volunteerism/anarcho-capitalism, so if we’re just using volunteering as the basis we might as well say it’s volunteerism. I think anarcho-communism and anarcho-capitalism are a bit more nuanced than “sharing.”

Urist,
@Urist@lemmy.ml avatar

Anarcho-capitalism is a contradictory term that is mostly used to imagine neofeudalism.

AnneBonny,

mostly used to imagine neofeudalism

what else is it used for?

Urist,
@Urist@lemmy.ml avatar

Those advocating for it also use it to display their total lack of perspective and analysis of the mechanics of capitalism. I.e. one can use it as a sign on one’s head saying “not at home for the moment, try again later”.

Cowbee,

Anarcho-Capitalism isn’t a thing, it’s just Libertarian Capitalists LARPing with Leftist aesthetics. The very rejection of individual ownership rejects Capitalism, it’s like saying Worker Co-operatives are an example of Capitalism because markets tend to not care what makes them up.

Just because FOSS would be “allowed” in Capitalism doesn’t mean it’s an example of Capitalist principles.

ArcaneSlime,

Yes and they’d argue that anarchism isn’t exclusively leftist (well, I’D argue that depends on one’s definition of left/right, because depending on who you ask it’s either good/bad, collectivism/individualism, or lib/auth, and by the latter definition they would then be leftist capitalists, which is funny to think about.) They support individual ownership without rulers, however they still promote sharing of things you own with your community if you can/want.

Right, and just because sharing is “allowed” in communism doesn’t mean sharing is communism. It being allowed in both not being necessarily representative of either is my whole point.

Cowbee,

Regardless of what AnCaps argue, the fundamental fact is that Anarchy is a rejection of hierarchy, whereas Private Property itself requires both the Owner/Worker hierarchy, and a monopoly on violence that cannot be reasonably contested to uphold Private Property protections. As such, it can only be considered Libertarian, as it both maintains hierarchy and maintains some semblance of at minimum a nightwatchman state.

As for Left/Right, the standard definition is Collective/Individual ownership of the Means of Production, not necessarily collectivism/individualism or lib/auth. Individual ownership by definition is supporting rulers, the larger Capitalists are effectively no different from a Feudal state.

Sharing being allowed does not mean FOSS aligns with AnCap principles, that’s like saying bagel consumption is AnCap.

FOSS isn’t simply “sharing” either, it’s quite literally a rejection of Individual ownership and creating IP for the collective to use, fork, maintain, and distribute as they see fit. It isn’t a coincidence that FOSS enthusiasts overwhelmingly lean left, just like Lemmy tends to.

ArcaneSlime, (edited )

Regardless of what AnCaps argue, the fundamental fact is that Anarchy is a rejection of hierarchy, whereas Private Property itself requires both the Owner/Worker hierarchy, and a monopoly on violence that cannot be reasonably contested to uphold Private Property protections. As such, it can only be considered Libertarian, as it both maintains hierarchy and maintains some semblance of at minimum a nightwatchman state.

Regardless is right, because my comments were never about espousing the benefits of anarcho-capitalism, I was using them to make the point that simply because things share a similarity with a political ideology it does not in fact make them “that ideology.” Arguing about ancapistan in this instance is a “strawman.”

Sharing being allowed does not mean FOSS aligns with AnCap principles, that’s like saying bagel consumption is AnCap.

No this is my point, you get your own.

use, fork, maintain, and distribute as they see fit.

“Sharing.”

Cowbee,

No.

Your argument is that because FOSS would be permissible in AnCap society, FOSS being fundamentally constructed upon AnCom principles of rejecting Capitalism and centralization in favor of decentralized and collectively owned and distributed property makes it not in line with Anarcho-Communism.

When the article is giving an example of how Anarcho-Communism would work, Linux is a fantastic example. Nobody is saying Linux is Anarcho-Communism, or that Linux cannot exist within broader contexts, but that in an Anarcho-Communist society, the structure of Linux and FOSS would be the common structure.

You’re being contrarion for the sake of it.

ArcaneSlime,

No.

Yes.

Your argument is that because FOSS would be permissible in AnCap society…

Because voluntary association and sharing is also a core tenet of volunteerism/anarchocapitalism, as they also are of anarcho-communism…

FOSS being fundamentally constructed upon AnCom principles of rejecting Capitalism and centralization in favor of decentralized and collectively owned and distributed property

FOSS being similar to AnCom because both share principles of sharing

makes it not in line with Anarcho-Communism.

makes it not necessarily Anarcho-Communist.

You’re making false equivalencies for the sake of it.

Cowbee,

“This rejection of profit and ownership made by a self-admitted leftist is actually completely in line with for-profit individual ownership just because AnCaps don’t murder people for doing charity”

You’re just trying to be contrarion for the sake of it, lmao. Again, the article was showcasing examples of gift economies and how Anarcho-Communism would function, and Linux fits that definition. It wasn’t arguing that Linux is Anarcho-Communism itself. It is not an example of how Anarcho-Capitalism would function, as Anarcho-Capitalism is Capitalism, and FOSS is decidedly anticapitalist, even if said Capitalists wouldn’t murder Linus for rejecting Capitalism.

You’re again being needlessly contrarion, Anarcho-Capitalists don’t advocate for setting up networks of mutual aid and FOSS software, they don’t care about gift economies either. Using Linux as an example for AnCapistan would get you laughed out of the room, if calling yourself an AnCap didn’t already result in that.

I’m done, this is pointless.

ArcaneSlime,

Lmao know what? Money must me made of grass, seeing as both are green, you’ve convinced me.

duncesplayed, in Some of y'all need to see this and drop the superiority complex...

Isn’t it Mac OS X 14? I.e., Mac OS 10.14?

dizzy,
@dizzy@lemmy.ml avatar

No they ditched OSX and yearly point updates in 2020 and went from Mac OSX 10.15.7 to MacOS 11.0

The next yearly release was MacOS 12.

It’s now up to 14.2.1

duncesplayed,

Ah thanks for that! You can tell how long it’s been since I’ve used Mac OS.

sfxrlz,

Do you know why?

Korne127,
@Korne127@lemmy.world avatar

Actually yeah

In 2000, Steve Jobs announced Mac OS X as the operating system for the next 20 years. So they kept the version for 20 years and well… in 2020 they started to make the yearly updates be major version number updates again (instead of minor version numbers).

Also @dizzy

dizzy,
@dizzy@lemmy.ml avatar

Probably just wanted a higher number than windows or didn’t want to get leapfrogged. Also makes more sense with iOS having a similar schedule.

uriel238, in Some of y'all need to see this and drop the superiority complex...
@uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

We don’t have a consistent convention as to what changes qualify for a version increment rather than update increment. A new kernel? A new interface convention? New icons for the mini-apps?

Windows 10 has more plug-and-play drivers than Win7 and Win8. It can recognize newer hardware and it can be installed natively from thumb drives. So a lot of features that were third party are now offical… long after I had access to the third-party libraries.

But then it combines the metro and the start menu. I never found a use for the metro.

Win11 is less operability and more DRM and more spyware.

For Apple and Microsoft, a new version is a new marketing season. It’s the same as the new iPhone, the new Subaru.

I assume Linux builds increment with significant operability additions, especially if they’re not fully backwards compatible. Since they’re released without charge the capacity to do more stuff is the only reason to upgrade to a new increment rather than preserving a stable version.

state_electrician,

You are taking this dumb joke way too seriously.

uriel238,
@uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I get that a lot.

redcalcium, (edited )

The version number will be incremented when Linus says so. He might even increment it to 7.x tomorrow if he feels like it.

uriel238, (edited )
@uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Which only adds bas relief to the point. Linus has no personal or commercial motivation to get people to get the hot new trendy thing. Linux isn’t motivated by built-in obsolescence the way Windows and iOS are.

In fact, their higher iteration indicators are a symptom of a disadvantage of the operating system, not an advantage.

Stillhart, in Friendly reminder

Linux noobie here. Any tips on what to search for for instructions on how to do this? Bonus points if it has a GUI and is easy to use.

neidu2, (edited )

Timeshift. It has an easy to understand GUI that doesn’t really need much of an intro: You create snapshots of your system files and configs that can be restored if/when you bungle it up.

cmnybo,

Timeshift works best if you use BTRFS for your root partition because snapshots can be taken instantly. I have mine setup to automatically take a snapshot every day.

Stillhart,

Thanks, all setup!

Catsrules,

Never used it myself and i am still a linix noob but what is the restore process if your OS isnt bootable?

If their like a rescue environment you boot into or something?

neidu2,

There are many approaches, depending on what broke. In my case the system was fine, just xorg being completely borked. So I logged into the console and fixed it.

If regular console doesn’t work, something really went bad during boot, for which there’s single-user mode which is kind of similar to safe mode from Windows 98 (I’m sure there’s something similar in newer windows versions).

And of that doesn’t work, there’s the minimalistic rescue shell.

And if that doesn’t work, you can boot from a USB or some other external media and try to fix your system from that, maybe even using chroot to use the system somewhat normally.

jjlinux,

As long as your file system is on BTRFS, timeshift is, I O, the easiest backup app for Linux, specially if you’re just getting your feet wet in it.

dan,
@dan@upvote.au avatar

Why does Timeshift only support btrfs? Is it just a lack of developers? LVM supports snapshots too, even if you’re just using ext4. ZFS supports snapshots too.

MangoKangaroo,

Timeshift supports rsync snapshots. No btrfs needed :)

jjlinux,

Thanks for letting me know. It’s never worked on any FS other than BTRFS for me, I’ll give it another shot.

brax, in Some of y'all need to see this and drop the superiority complex...

Are those just made up numbers by some apple fanboy? How does an OS that’s in pretty much everything not have a larger stake?

Korne127,
@Korne127@lemmy.world avatar

It’s kind of baffling to me how so many people on here don’t get the most obvious of joke / satire…

BCsven, (edited ) in how do i transfer files via usb c cable from a pixel 6a (grapheneos) to linux mint?

Plug in cable to PC, go into android USB setting and switch it to file transfer instead of charging mode, it should show in your file manager as a connected USB drive. ( you can tell everyone is a linux or phone techy, everone gave the complicated merhods that didn’t address the question asked, but @OP all the other methods work also )

UnfortunateShort,

TBF, KDE Connect is pretty convenient for this and other stuff

CrabAndBroom,

I have a Pixel 4a with GrapheneOS and I can never get it to find any other devices in KDE connect for some reason. Syncthing works fine though so I just use that instead.

ArcaneSlime,

If you’re using a vpn it could be preventing it, I had to allow lan on mullvad’s settings to make it work.

CrabAndBroom,

Yeah I do have Mullvad as well but it doesn’t seem to be that. I tried split tunneling KDE connect and also just turning the VPN off altogether and it made no difference.

My current guess is either some hidden security thing in GrapheneOS that I haven’t discovered yet, or maybe some router setting that’s filtering it out? The investigation is ongoing!

ArcaneSlime,

I had to specifically run mullvad lan set allow in the terminal on pc and turn on “local network sharing” on the phone app specifically. If you’re not on linux idk, but if you are and haven’t tried that it could help. Though if it doesn’t work with the mullvad disabled (and “always require vpn” off on both devices) then it probably isn’t that. If it’s a graphene setting it isn’t one enabled by default, because I got a pixel 6 last week and it works fine through mullvad to use kde connect with my settings set to allow lan.

CrabAndBroom,

K I kind of solved it! Turns out there wasn’t a setting within the Mullvad app for “always require VPN”, but there was one in the Android system settings under VPN. If I turn that off and then split tunnel KDE connect only on the phone (not on my laptop for some unknown reason) then they can see each other.

One to file under “I don’t know why that works but I’ll take it” lol.

ArcaneSlime,

Lol ayy alright! Glad you got it sorted!

BCsven,

Of course, it’s awesome; so is GSConnect on Gnome, and syncthing is awesome, and fx on android with samba shares is great. Croc on mobile to PC, etc. just the dude asks how to use USB cable and gets recompile your kernel suggestion ( I’m being hyberbolic)

Aradia,
@Aradia@lemmy.ml avatar

He can still use the Cable C to keep the battery on.

stefenauris, in What's your experiences with Debian and Rocky as a homeserver OS?
@stefenauris@pawb.social avatar

Debian is a distro of few surprises and stable but slightly out of date packages. Their software repositories are vast and supported across pretty much every architecture you could think of running Linux on.

Meanwhile the world of RHEL has been turned upside down with Redhat essentially putting a paywall around their sources. Although Rocky currently promises to continue being bug for bug compatible with RHEL it remains to be seen if they can continue to do so (in my opinion)

PrivateNoob,

Yeah that’s one of the main reason I’m interested in your experience. The sorta recent source lock is definitely shaky just in general, although I believe in Rocky’s message that they won’t have to roll their shutters down.

selokichtli, in When Windows 10 dies, I am going to jump ship over to Linux. Which version would you recommend for someone with zero prior experience with Linux? **Edit: Linux Mint it shall be.**

You always start with Linux Mint. This is the way.

rodbiren,

Handles graphics drivers, printer drivers, looks like a windows without the influence of advertisers, what I consider a consistent theme, and best of all it is mind numbingly boring. Prepare yourself for the heart pounding activity of predictable updates, uncomplicated booting, running familiar applications, doing work, being productive, not even actively thinking about your OS.

TCB13, in TIL that operating system Linux is an example of anarcho-communism
@TCB13@lemmy.world avatar

What’s the real difference between an “anarchist communist” and a “communist”? The first one can have “personal property” while the second cant? So… an anarchist communist can own a car but not a house? According to the internet “personal property” is everything that can be moved (not real estate) and isn’t considered for production of something…

Cowbee, (edited )

A few things draw significant differences.

Anarchism is fundamentally a firm rejection of unjust hierarchy, including the state, via building up of bottom-up structures using networks of Mutual Aid or other strategies (like Syndicalism).

Communism is fundamentally about advancing beyond Capitalism into Socialism and eventually Communism. It’s fundamentally Marxist, unlike most forms of Anarchism (which don’t necessarily reject Marx, but also don’t accept everything Marx wrote). Communists are generally perfectly fine with using the state in order to eventually achieve a Stateless, Classless, Moneyless society, as each becomes unnecessary and whithers away.

In essence, Anarchism rejects that a state is necessary at all, and seeks to directly replace current systems with the end-goal of an Anarchist structure, whereas Communists tend to agree more with gradual change, rapidly building up the productive forces, and achieving a global, international Communism.

Anarcho-Communism seeks to combine these into directly implementing full Communism without going through Socialism first.

All of this is from a generally Leftist perspective, without leaning into any given tendency, as I believe the most critical battles now are building up a sizable leftist coalition. Everyone should focus on organizing, unionizing, reading, learning, sympathizing, empathizing, and improving themselves and those around them.

AaronMaria,

I’ve never heard anyone argue against personal property. Usually the difference is that Anarchists want to skip the workers’ state, while other Communists think it’s a necessity to achieve Communism.

Lianodel,

A big part of the confusion comes from the fact that different people will use these terms differently.

In a capitalist framework, there’s private property and public property. Either an individual (or or specific group) own something, anything, or it’s owned by the government.

In a socialist framework, private property is distinguished from personal property. Personal property is your stuff that you use for yourself. Your coat, your car, your TV, etc. Private property is the means of production, or capital—things that increase a worker’s ability to do useful work. Think factories or companies, where ownership in and of itself, regardless of labor, would make the owner money. Socialists think that kind of private property shouldn’t exist, because it means wealthy people can just own stuff for a living, profiting off of the people who do the work.

Housing can go either way. Owning a home for yourself and your family would be far closer to personal property, while owning an apartment building to collect rent would be far closer to private property.

Socialism, for the most part and historically, is an umbrella term describing social rather than private ownership. That would include anarchism, which largely synonymous with “libertarian socialism.” Lenin, on the other hand, used it to more specifically refer to an intermediate stage between capitalism in communism, so you might see people using that more narrow definition to exclude anarchists, democratic socialists, etc.

Samsy, in Some of y'all need to see this and drop the superiority complex...

If people really get triggered by this bullshit graph, let’s add Arch Linux which is on what? >200? >300?

aBundleOfFerrets,

Arch doesn’t have a global version

Samsy,

I know but if I remember correctly there is a version tag at boot, 230 or something was the last I’ve seen.

aBundleOfFerrets,

I think that is the version for the archiso build, and I don’t think it should be used as a version for the OS

fallingcats, (edited )

Clearly the current version is 2024.01.01

Current Release: 2024.01.01
Included Kernel: 6.6.8
ISO Size: 883.3 MB

aBundleOfFerrets,

Well shit I guess we win then

Caboose12000, in Steam not launching games - no idea what to do [Solved]

I had an issue like this once, it turned out something with openGL had gotten messed up in my last system update, so although I thought I hadn’t changed anything, not even Linux native games would launch correctly. the solution that worked for me was just using my distros update tool to make sure everything was up to date, and that found and updated the broken package and since then everything’s worked for me

Critical_Insight,

I’m starting to think it has something to do with my GPU/drivers aswell. Earlier when I ran the software updater it found an update for steam but while installing I got this message and I have no idea what it mean and how to sort it out

https://i.imgur.com/HoCIbGz.png

kattenluik,

It quite literally just tells you to install those graphics drivers, and you should.

Critical_Insight,
kattenluik,

I don’t know what distro you’re using but you should just search the package name plus your distro name on the web to see what’s actually up.

I know that it’s called nvidia-driver-libs-i386 on Debian.

Critical_Insight,

I’m on ubuntu

kattenluik,

That really sucks lol, I was hoping you’d be on Mint or something. Did you install using Ubuntu’s app store thing that uses the awful snaps?

I’m guessing the normal Steam package installs the drivers for you seeing as I can’t find a guide that shows you how to install them on the same page as installing Steam.

Critical_Insight,

Yeah Ubuntu App Center. I managed to uninstall it now and installed one using terminal. I’m re-downloading the game now so we’ll see how it goes…

Caboose12000,

I’m not sure how you can get that package on Ubuntu, but for what it’s worth Ive had a much better time ever since I switched from Ubuntu to Nobara. it really has everything I need for gaming out of the box and everything just works. I’m sure a full reinstall is way more of a hassle than you’d want to deal with rn, but if you get to that point I’d highly suggest nobara

Critical_Insight,

I might treat my PC with a new motherboard, CPU and RAM in the near future so switching distros is not totally out of the question. This rig is almost exclusively for playing DayZ tho, so this issue is particularly irritating.

kattenluik,

Definitely use a generic distro like Mint next time!

velox_vulnus, (edited ) in What's your current favorite distro that isn't Arch, Debian or Fedora?

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  • Chewy7324,

    My reason against using Guix is software availability. NixOS repos are just larger, and I like that on NixOS unfree software can be enabled with a single line.

    fishinthecalculator,

    with nonguix the lines are like five instead of one, but yes there are less packages than nix. the real selling point imho is how everything is human-sized and consistent

    iopq, in What's your current favorite distro that isn't Arch, Debian or Fedora?

    NixOS is not based on any other distro because it has its own package manager which is better than all the other distros’

    leidkultur,

    Yes, that package manager will surely be the best one and not just be another one in the zoo.

    iopq,

    The whole system is built using it, so every time your system will be the same when building from the same configuration. Even if you such to another computer, you will download locked versions of all packages and get the exact same system

    In Ubuntu installing and removing a package doesn’t even guarantee it’s cleaned up

    Dirk, in When Windows 10 dies, I am going to jump ship over to Linux. Which version would you recommend for someone with zero prior experience with Linux? **Edit: Linux Mint it shall be.**
    @Dirk@lemmy.ml avatar

    You should try Linux Mint. It’s a good distribution for new Linux users. It’s easy to understand, has a good community with plenty of solutions for all types of problems and it is not too specific.

    Gaming with Steam on Linux works without any major issues except when it comes to games that intentionally made run on Windows only due to their DRM. I suggest using the Flatpak variant of Steam so you won’t clutter your system with too many weird dependencies.

    ParetoOptimalDev,

    I don’t know about flatpak. I have a high tolerance for annoyance but configuring flatpak permissions right was annoying.

    Dirk,
    @Dirk@lemmy.ml avatar

    I just installed it and never changed any permissions. Maybe you confuse it with AppImage?

    qaz, (edited )

    Some Flatpak apps don’t have the proper permissions or they can be quite restrictive especially when it cames to file access.

    For example; it’s not possible to upload files using Discord from the user home (except a few specified folders). This could be solved with a XDG portal, but most apps don’t bother implementing that.

    Loucypher,

    Yeah that is annoying. I get that problem with Cryptomator

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