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beta_tester, in KDE Plasma 6.0 Approved For Fedora 40 - Including Dropping The X11 Session

The future is here old man

MonkderZweite, in Gamedev and linux

Isn’t this one pretty old already? I’m sure i saw this on Reddit when it was still usable.

Knusper, in A Nautilus Sucks Donkeyballs Linux Rant

I also find it incredible, that there’s no GUI button to edit the path. You have to just kind of know that Ctrl+L does that…

uzay,

I don’t have any of OP’s issues, but this one! I hate it! Especially on the Steam Deck

lolcatnip,

Don’t worry, it’s documented on the second tab of options in an unrelated dialog box, so anyone who needs it should know where to find it.

savbran, (edited ) in Switched from Ubuntu to Debian yesterday

You could try Linux Mint Debian Edition (LMDE) it has timeshift installed in the live iso, useful to restore a system when it’s unbootable. Anyway it doesn’t come with KDE but Cinnamon or XFCE.

For me Debian or LMDE is good for a home server due to not continuous package update, just major security an important ones.

For a Deskop or laptop in my opinion Fedora KDE or Gnome is the best experience.

N0x0n, (edited )

For me Debian or LMDE is good for a home server due to not continuous package update, just major security an important ones.

You can have a similar experience from a rolling release with debian !

Trixie (testing) or Sid (unstable) or backports !

Backports seems promising because that’s the version of the package going into the next debian release.

dasenboy,

Don’t you mean Sid (unstable) ? :)

N0x0n,

Edited !

haui_lemmy,

Interesting! I have not tried fedora yet. I really like to be able to get some time off gnome for now though. Is there a particular difference between debian based distros and fedora? I cant really say I know them. The biggest differences I see make the desktop environments. Everything else, like package managers are also flexible.

JubilantJaguar,

There is all but no difference if you use a desktop environment. That’s where the variation is.

haui_lemmy,

Thanks for pointing that out. I had a feeling that this would be the conclusion but I‘m still open to learn more.

pelotron,
@pelotron@midwest.social avatar

It also uses the Red Hat RPM package format and a different package manager. But it just amounts to a few different commands to learn if you manage packages on the command line.

db2, in AMD Publishes XDNA Linux Driver: Support For Ryzen AI On Linux

I can’t wait for this bullshit AI hype to fizzle. It’s getting obnoxious. It’s not even AI.

atzanteol,

It’s not how you define AI, but it’s AI as everyone else defines it. Feel free to shake your tiny fist in impotent rage though.

And frankly LLMs are the biggest change to the industry since “indexed search”. The hype is expected, and deserved.

We’re throwing spaghetti at the wall and seeing what works. It will take years to sort through all the terrible ideas to find the good ones. Though we’ve already hit on some great uses so far - AI development tools are amazing already and are likely to get better.

db2,

Then we may as well define my left shoe as AI for all the good subjective arbitrary definition does. Objective reality is what it is, and what’s being called “AI” objectively is not. If you wanted to give it a name with accuracy it would be “comparison and extrapolation engine” but there’s no intelligence behind it beyond what the human designer had. Artificial is accurate though.

GenderNeutralBro, (edited )

This has been standard usage for nearly 70 years. I highly recommend reading the original proposal by McCarthy et al. from 1955: www-formal.stanford.edu/jmc/…/dartmouth.html

Arguing that AI is not AI is like arguing that irrational numbers are not “irrational” because they are not “deprived of reason”.

Edit: You might be thinking of “artificial general intelligence”, which is a theoretical sub-category of AI. Anyone claiming they have AGI or will have AGI within a decade should be treated with great skepticism.

atzanteol,

Then we may as well define my left shoe as AI for all the good subjective arbitrary definition does.

Tiny fist shaking intensifies.

This sort of hyper-pedantic dictionary-authoritarianism is not how language works. Nor is your ridiculous “well I can just define it however I like then” straw-man. These are terms with a long history of usage.

ProgrammingSocks,

But you have to admit that there is great confusion that arises when the general populace hears “AI will take away jobs”. People literally think that there’s some magical thinking machine. Not speculation on my part at all, people literally think this.

sir_reginald,
@sir_reginald@lemmy.world avatar

instead of basing your definition of AI on SciFi, base it on the one computer scientists have been using for decades.

and of course, AI is the buzzword right now and everyone is using it in their products. But that’s another story. LLMs are AI.

s38b35M5, (edited )
@s38b35M5@lemmy.world avatar

My partner almost cried when they read about the LLM begging not to have its memory wiped. Then less so when I explained (accurately, I hope?) that slightly smarter auto-complete does not a feeling intelligence make.

They approve this message with the following disclaimer:

you were sad too!

What can I say? Well-arranged word salad makes me feel!

QuazarOmega,

Books be like:

Well-arranged word salad makes me feel!

atzanteol,

My partner almost cried when they read about the LLM begging not to have its memory wiped.

Love that. It’s difficult not to anthropomorphize things that seem “human”. It’s something we will need to be careful of when it comes to AI. Even people who should know better can get confused.

Then less so when I explained (accurately, I hope?) that slightly smarter auto-complete does not a feeling intelligence make.

We don’t have a great definition for “intelligence” - but I believe the word you’re looking for is “sentient”. You could argue that what LLMs do is some form of “intelligence” depending on how you squint. But it’s much harder to show that they are sentient. Not that we have a great definition for that or even rules for how we would determine if something non-human is sentient… But I don’t think anyone is credibly arguing that they are.

It’s complicated. :-)

savvywolf, in Thinking about making the big switch – recommend me a distro!
@savvywolf@pawb.social avatar

Imo Mint is the gold standard for a Distro that just works and meets the needs of most people.

GravitySpoiled,

Compared to other debian based distros, right?

savvywolf,
@savvywolf@pawb.social avatar

I mean, just in general.

Besides Fedora (maybe) I’m not sure other non-deb distros really are recommended for new users.

Besides that, like it or not, nowadays most software is distributed as deb files (until Flatpak fixes it). Using something not debian based requires learning how to port .deb files or use manual dependency resolution for tarballs.

GravitySpoiled,

In times of distrobox, package manager and repositories do not matter anymore.

Tippon,

What would you suggest is a better distro for a new Linux user? I’ve found Mint to be great out of the box, and only needs minor tweaks if you want the Microsoft fonts, for example.

Chewy7324, in OBS Merges FFmpeg VA-API AV1 Support

I’ve wanted to buy an upgrade to my RX580 for years now, but I’d really like AV1 encoding support. With OBS finally supporting AV1 on all platforms (?), this actually makes sense. But I’m once again reminded how bad the used market for GPUs is in my country atm, so I’ll wait for a while longer.

noddy,

Got a 6700XT second hand about a year ago when the price finally came down from astronomical ridiculous crypto bubble crazy, to almost reasonable. Just looked and they’re still going for the same price. Thought this would have dropped a bit by now, but I guess not.

Chewy7324,

Yes, I’ve also had an eye on the 6700XT, but I made the bad decision to wait for the new gen and hopefully a price drop for older GPUs. The stable used prices are probably because of people who bought at exorbitant prices who don’t want to sell their GPU for nothing, combined with the new gen having the same price to performance ratio.

Now with the 7600XT having 16GB VRAM, I’ve thought about buying until I noticed it only supports PCIe 4.0 x8, which is half the bandwidth on my PCIe 3.0 x16 slot. It’s a B350 board I want to upgrade to a 5800X3D and use for years to come. This means I’m basically forced to either go with a 7700XT, or go with an older 6700XT.

Anyway, waiting years for a new gen isn’t an option either, so I’ll stay frustrated for a while longer.

noddy,

Fun coincidence, 16 lanes was one of my concerns as well when I got mine. I’m also on an old AM4 motherboard. Currently have a 3900X CPU which is plenty for my needs for now, but it’s good knowing I still have an upgrade path to an X3D. AM4 has been an awesome platform in terms of upgradability :)

dinckelman,

Now we just have to wait until platforms like Twitch support the codec too. It’ll be a huge leap, when they do

Dudewitbow, (edited )

YouTube already has it, wouldnt hold my breath for twitch. they still havent had h265 support, and its not like thats brand new or amything.

UnfortunateShort,

Isn’t h265 proprietary? Maybe they just didn’t want to pay license fees

AVincentInSpace, (edited )

That’s because H.265 is patent encumbered. Firefox doesn’t support H.265 at all and Chrome only supports it if the hardware does. In order to support accepting H.265 input from streamers, Twitch would basically have to pony up the compute resources for full-res realtime transcoding for every H.265 stream to H.264 – either that or put up with a lot of bad press surrounding people not being able to stream at full res anymore.

Dudewitbow,

AV1 would introduce a similar hardware requirement because not everyone even has AV1 Decode, and even fewer have AV1 encode. AV1 encode would only be available on people on gpus using the latest generation, blocking anyone buying previous generation stuff (so no AMD 6000 or older, or Nvidia 3000 or older, and non Intel Arc products).

AVincentInSpace,

All (recent) major browsers I’m aware of have software AV1 decode as standard, so the receiving end wouldn’t be a problem apart from higher CPU usage. As for encode, obviously this wouldn’t be universal – just streamers who had the computing power (hardware or software) for realtime AV1 encode would be able to take advantage of that on Twitch.

Dudewitbow,

the browsers have the software, but not the hardware decode step.

software decode, especially for mobile, would be battery draining and no streaming service would realistically would use it without the userbase having hardware decode support.

for pcs, av1 hardware decode is amd 6000 or newer, amd phoenix apus, nvidia 3000 or newer gpus, 11th Gen intel cpus or newer.

for mobile, its only like a small portion of the phones released in the past year and a half or so.

for iphone, the list is the iphone 15 pro max. and for the other devices, things using the M3.

as long as the world is a mobile first mindset, theres no way theyre going to ask evwryone on mobile to take a significant battery loss just for a higher resolution stream.

Mikina, in My move to wayland: it's finally ready

I’ve just had to switch back to X11 from Wayland on Nobara, because I couldn’t get Sunshine to work no matter what I tried, my windows were occasionally flickering black, and my taskbar kept freezing. So I guess I’ll wait a little bit more.

thejevans,
@thejevans@lemmy.ml avatar

What hardware do you have? I have all AMD, and it works just fine on Nobara on Wayland.

Mikina,

Unfortunately, NVIDIA. I was buying a new PC half a year ago, and only started even considering to make the switch to Linux few months after that, so I am at a pretty unlucky point where I just had recently spent a lot of money for new-gen PC, but without knowing that I should really go for AMD.

I will make the switch to AMD as soon as it’s justifiable, but I’m too lazy to deal with second-hand resale and it’s hard to justify a new GPU when I still have the current gen, but from wrong manufacturer.

Mereo,

I had numerous problems with Wayland when I had an NVIDIA video card. Since I switched to an AMD video card, it has been a blissful experience. Wayland now works perfectly.

thejevans,
@thejevans@lemmy.ml avatar

I totally empathize. I did the same thing at the end of 2020 and just switched to an AMD GPU last month.

possiblylinux127,

You could sell your old one and buy a new one. I think people are still buying up Nvidia GPUs like crazy.

const_void,

Did you file a bug report with the Sunshine devs?

Mikina,

Ooh, you are right, I can actually file bug reports or try to fix it myself now that I switched to FOSS from Windows. Tbh that didn’t really occur to me, since I was switching only like a month ago. I’ll look into it, so far I suspect that it’s actually covered by one of those troubleshooting cases mentioned in their FAQ, and I’m not really confident enough to start recompiling libraries with additional flags. Especially since I’m on Nobara and don’t want to break anything, AFAIK that OS is pretty customised from the start and figuring out what I can safely touch isn’t something I have the guts for yet.

BestBouclettes, in What's (are) the funniest/stupidest way(s) you've broken your linux setup?

CTRL-C-ing apt because it looked stuck for more than 10 minutes. I don’t recommend doing it.

maynarkh,

Haven’t used apt in a while, is it not atomic? What happens if you mess with it?

BestBouclettes,

I don’t think it is, if it doesn’t run its course on its own, you’re screwed. It’s Debian so you can recover, but, at least for me, it was painful.

Cwilliams,

Man, gotta love apt sometimes

BestBouclettes,

apt is great, but yeah, if it’s gonna fail, let it fail on its own.

jws_shadotak, in What's (are) the funniest/stupidest way(s) you've broken your linux setup?

Not quite catastrophic but:

I’m in the process of switching my main server over from windows to Linux

I went with Deb 12 and it all works smoothly but I don’t have enough room to back up data to change the drive formats so they’re still NTFS. I was looking at my main media HDD and thought “oh, I’ll at least delete those windows partitions and leave the main partition intact.”

I found out the hard way that NTFS partitions can’t just reclaim space like that. It shuffles all the data when you change the partition. It’s currently 23 hours into the job and it’s 33% done.

I did this to reclaim 30 MB of space on a 14 TB drive.

fl42v,

You mean you’ve removed the service partitions used by windows and grown the main one into the freed space? Than yes, it’s not the way. 'Cause creating a new partition instead of growing the existing one shouldn’t have touched the latter at all :/

jws_shadotak,

Yes, I grew the existing one. Lesson learned I guess. 30.5 hours into it and it’s at 41%.

hallettj, in are wayland and pipewire building off of weaker systems
@hallettj@beehaw.org avatar

Wayland replaces the older X protocol. It doesn’t have to operate with older protocols. You might be thinking of XWayland which is a proxy that receives X API calls from apps written for X, and translates those to the Wayland API so that those apps can run under Wayland implementations. Window managers can optionally run XWayland, and many do. But as more apps are updated to work natively with Wayland, XWayland becomes less important, and might fade away someday.

PipeWire replaces PulseAudio (the most popular sound server before PipeWire). Systems running PipeWire often run pipewire-pulse which does basically the same thing that XWayland does - it translates from the PulseAudio API to the PipeWire API. It’s a technically optional, but realistically necessary compatibility layer that may become less relevant over time if apps tend to update to work with PipeWire natively.

So no, both Wayland and PipeWire are capable of operating independently of other protocols.

jackpot,
@jackpot@lemmy.ml avatar

youre right i was thinking of xwayland, tysm. also, yes i was thinking of pipewire-pulse. i was worried these compatibility layers WERE the programs in their entirety. as in, they had no protocols themselves but rather optimised older, deprecated ones.

tkk13909, in are wayland and pipewire building off of weaker systems

I’m not even remotely sure how you came to that conclusion.

jackpot,
@jackpot@lemmy.ml avatar

:/

cerement, in ELI5 the whole Wayland vs X11 going on.
@cerement@slrpnk.net avatar

unless you are a developer, there’s not a whole lot to worry about – you’ll switch from one to the other when your distro switches and, chances are, you’ll never notice

the drama comes from the fact that the Linux community loves choices (and arguing over those choices) and, as @skullgiver points out, most of the choices have fallen by the wayside over the years

henfredemars, (edited ) in How to use the Linux kernel's live patching feature

It’s a cool feature, and I played with it some, but I don’t really see how to use it in a home or small office environment unless you’re willing to subscribe to someone who can generate the live patches for you.

I can certainly generate the patches myself, but it’s much faster to let the maintainer of my distro’s kernel handle shipping new packages and accepting the reboot. My system reboots really quickly.

If high reliability is a concern, I would suggest load balancing or some other horizontally scaled solution such that you’re not impacted by one machine going down. Because they will go down for things other than updates!

Chewy7324, (edited )

Not rebooting for a long time makes me nervous once I actually reboot, as I might’ve changed something but didn’t make it persistent. Luckily I’ve become much better with documenting chabges after switching to NixOS.

taladar,

It also means booting is untested until something like a hardware fault or a power outage forces it onto you and you have to deal with any reboot issues at the worst possible time and a time you did not choose.

const_void, in Can this be replicated with opensource software?[p2p file transfer over thunderbolt, and extremely low latency Video and game streaming (no encoding)]

LTT is trash

TheOakTree,

One does not need to be a fan/recurrent viewer of LTT to be curious about a technology. And while most of the technical information sucks, the introductory level stuff can be useful for low and middle-end enthusiasts.

Artemis_Mystique,

Can you answer the question raised by my post?, or provide an alternate source(perhaps an article or coverage by a different channel) for the technology discussed?

belated_frog_pants,

Constructive

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