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Quackdoc, in Roc Toolkit 0.3: real-time audio streaming over the network
@Quackdoc@lemmy.world avatar

i’ve been using sonobus lately and it’s been pretty good, I had latency issues when I tested the android app a long time ago, ill have to test it again

IHeartBadCode, in Mandrake Linux 10.0, from 2004. They still work too. Had to buy them on disc, slow dialup internet in those days.
@IHeartBadCode@kbin.social avatar

I see your discs. Here’s my Mandrake 7 discs.

BlueEther,
@BlueEther@no.lastname.nz avatar

Mandrake 7 was my first distro as well i think, early 2000…

ptz, (edited ) in Roc Toolkit 0.3: real-time audio streaming over the network
@ptz@dubvee.org avatar

Ooh. I’ve been using Snapcast for my multi-room audio, but this seems more versatile. Going to check it out for sure.

Have you used it? Curious about latency. Snapcast has about a 1 second buffer which makes it not ideal for anything beyond music casting.

chtk,
@chtk@feddit.nl avatar

I’m currently using ROC on my laptop and desktop. Latency is low enough to not be noticeable when playing video on my laptop and streaming audio to the desktop. Audio can get a bit choppy if my laptop is on WiFi. But that is most probably because the signal between the repeater on the second floor and my DSL modem on the ground floor is pretty meh.

ptz, (edited )
@ptz@dubvee.org avatar

Latency is low enough to not be noticeable when playing video on my laptop and streaming audio to the desktop.

That’s basically my use case. Want to use my HTPC as the source and some RasPi’s or repurposed thin clients as the sinks - pretty much what I do now with MPD and Snapcast. I absolutely do not want to have to mess with audio offset settings in Emby to keep the dialog in sync. lol

I’ve only skimmed the docs (holidays are a huge time sink haha), but do you know if it can do one-to-many or just one-to-one? Like, can I have one source and multiple receivers? The docs seemed to imply it could do one-to-many, but I didn’t get to dive into them deep enough.

chtk,
@chtk@feddit.nl avatar

Sorry for the late reply.

I don’t know if ROC can do multicast on its own. I use the Pipewire source and sink. And I only do the one-to-one setup.

I did some tests in Pipewire:

Configuring multiple sinks is possible on a machine. They simply present as additional output devices. So if you want to switch audio to another source, that should be doable by switching to another output device.

Doing one-to-many: I don’t know if that is possible with ROC alone. You might be able to do something with Pipewire graphs

Chewy7324,

I haven’t used it but especially the part about guaranteed latency over wireless is interesting.

Kecessa, in But Windows 11 is so good!!11!1!

I mean, if it was accidental then… Just turn it off and boot back into Linux? You realise you can just turn it off while it’s downloading updates, right? Heck, you can even pause updates long term if you want! 😱 Crazy!

emly_sh_,
@emly_sh_@sh.itjust.works avatar

As someone who has turned windows off while it’s updating, don’t do it. You might be lucky enough to only have some files deleted

turbowafflz,

I did that once, the registry stopped working. Turns out it can’t boot without that

Kecessa,

I never said to do it while it’s in the middle of changing stuff, but if you just booted you can turn it off and nothing will happen because worst case it will just be downloading without installing, as someone else mentioned, once updates are installed you can even turn off without applying updates if you want and you can also tell it to only download and not install unless you tell it to or not download at all.

Aatube,
@Aatube@kbin.social avatar

If you're going that way, Windows is not going to suddenly start updating when you simply boot it. You have to willingly click "Update and Shutdown/Restart" instead of "Shutdown/Restart", assuming your computer even finished downloading the update.

sir_reginald,
@sir_reginald@lemmy.world avatar

I have a Windows 10 partition on a second machine. I have disabled automatic updates in the options and I never click “Update at restart” or anything. Yet, whenever I need to boot into Windows it decides to automatically start updating itself.

I guess that I use it infrequently so there are always updates available, but it shouldn’t force them on me when I’ve specifically disabled them.

Ghoelian,

Also, when you choose either of the update or restart/shutdown options, it actually tries to restart, (for me) always boots back into linux because that’s my default. When I’d eventually boot back into Windows, it just continues installing the update I’d long forgotten about.

Pretty happy to be rid of that mess entirely now.

luthis, in Using cgroups to limit I/O · André Carvalho

I just discovered cgroups, so it’s cool to see some practical examples here.

Looks like not far off having easily managed load-balancing for I/O which is pretty cool.

pastermil, in Wlroots 0.17.0 released

How would wlroots relate to the compositors such as KWin & GNOME Shell?

russjr08,
@russjr08@outpost.zeuslink.net avatar

As far as I know, it wouldn’t - I do not believe KWin nor Mutter is built on top of wlroots.

FarLine99,

They are not

Laser, (edited )

As pointed out, they don’t use it. However, there are loose plan for KWin to migrate to wlroots one day, and in fact a hostile fork exists that is exactly that (KWinFT). So a compositor can make use of wlroots to implement Wayland functionality, sway for example does exactly that, unsurprisingly since they’re sister projects by the same author.

It should be noted that libwayland (mentioned in the patch notes) also exist, and wlroot actually depends on it, so I guess libwayland is like the lower level stuff while wlroots saves you some work to integrate libwayland into your compositor; the motto is “Pluggable, composable, unopinionated modules for building a Wayland compositor; or about 60,000 lines of code you were going to write anyway.”

ultra,

Just a note, you said that libwayland is a higher level abstraction for libwayland.

Laser,

Thanks, I corrected it

starman,
@starman@programming.dev avatar

libwayland is like the lower level stuff while libwayland saves you some work to integrate libwayland

LeFantome,

Makes sense. You have to factor in libwayland though.

Chewy7324,

wlroots is a library that can be used to implement a compositor like KWin or mutter (GNOME). In practice wlroots is used in Sway, Hyprland, river, and more.

What wlroots-based compositors, KWin, and mutter share is that they implement a similar set of the display protocol Wayland. E.g. KWin and Sway implement the Wayland extension wlr_layer_shell

CheeseToastie, in Mandrake Linux 10.0, from 2004. They still work too. Had to buy them on disc, slow dialup internet in those days.

I got my first copies of Linux through magazines that came with sample CDs. Photoshop too

padook, (edited ) in Mandrake Linux 10.0, from 2004. They still work too. Had to buy them on disc, slow dialup internet in those days.
@padook@feddit.nl avatar

Oooh memories, I can’t remember the version number but mandrake 10 must have been close to my first linux distro!! …it.didn’t.go.well.

d3Xt3r,

Mine was Mandrake 6. RedHat 5.2 was my first, and I was surprised how much easier Mandrake was in comparison. But the one that really wowed me was SuSE (before they became OpenSUSE), I was blown away how polished and user-friendly it was. Windows 9x/ME felt like a joke in comparison at time. And some people still claim Linux isn’t user friendly… and I’m like, bruh it’s been user friendly for about three decades now…

Chewy7324, in Wlroots 0.17.0 released
  • wp-fractional-scale-v1 to allow clients to submit buffers with a non-integer scale factor matching the output.

This hopefully means Sway and similar will support real fractional scaling for applications, not just the compositor fractional scaling we already have.

But I don’t know much about application support. Qt and Electron might support it; GTK 4 does not, possibly in a future version).

wayland.app/protocols/fractional-scale-v1

  • tearing-control to allow clients to opt-in for tearing page-flips.

That’s great for those who need it. Anyone with a modern display should probably just use variable refresh rate (vrr), but even today some devices don’t support it. E.g. there’s been 240Hz laptops without vrr.

wayland.app/protocols/tearing-control-v1

Atemu,
@Atemu@lemmy.ml avatar

GTK 4 does not, possibly in a future version

That would be news to me. Has GTK finally managed to switch away from using actual real hardware pixels as its base unit for measurement?

Chewy7324,

I was sure I read that GTK wants to support true fractional scaling in GTK 5, but I can’t find a source to it. So it was probably just speculation. As far as I understand it, it would require big changes to GTK because everything is build with integer scaling in mind.

At least GTK 4 already has support for this fractional scaling protocol.

www.phoronix.com/news/GTK-4.11.1

independantiste,
@independantiste@sh.itjust.works avatar

At least it does not look blurry with fractional scaling enabled, which is the biggest issue IMO. The current hacky way is not ideal I agree but at least it is functional

SexualPolytope, (edited ) in Just install EndeavorOS lol
@SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

For a total newbie, Linux Mint or PopOS are probably the best options. But EndeavourOS is getting there. There shouldn’t be any issues during the installation if one sticks to the defaults. Only thing is, it doesn’t come with a graphical package manager out of the box. But once that is installed (I think anyone will be happy to write a single terminal command, at least), I don’t see why it’s any harder to use than any other distro.

andrew_bidlaw,
@andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works avatar

Mint, with any DE, does come with a graphical package manager. It’s as easy as any appstore. The only confusion is it suggests both it’s original and flatpack versions to install.

I think you are talking about EndevourOS there.

SexualPolytope,
@SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Yeah, I’m talking about EndeavourOS. I don’t see what got you confused.

andrew_bidlaw,
@andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works avatar

Reading it in a linear fashion, you drop one distro after another without much distinction. I believe it’d be better if you serve EndOS it’s own paragraph since it’s so different.

catsarebadpeople,

Bruh

andrew_bidlaw,
@andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works avatar

What ‘bruh’?

It isn’t hard to drop a <br> before one starts explaining a completely different OS.

dannii_montanii, in Just install EndeavorOS lol

Arch wiki is the reason I started using Arch. After fixing an install from something I found there for like the 10th time I thought “Why not give it a try”

nyan, in /etc/fstab entry for Synology NAS

As a wild guess, try completely specifying the IP address in your fstab instead of relying on a wildcard. Wouldn’t be the first time there was a slight difference in how a marginal feature like that worked in different contexts.

Diplomjodler,

The IP address in the actual file is complete. I just didn’t want to put it here. I guess I should have put another number.

baduhai, in Just install EndeavorOS lol

Wiki do not have answer

?? The arch wiki is one of the greatest Linux resources out there. Sure there may be situations where it doesn’t have the answer for something, but for a new user? It has all bases covered.

MiddledAgedGuy,

I agree. I don’t use Arch (I have in the past) but I use Arch Wiki heavily.

Tlaloc_Temporal,
@Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca avatar

On one hand, the archlinux bbs had the only exact reference to the issue I was having. On the other hand, no one could replicate it enough to figure anything out. :/

Titou,
@Titou@feddit.de avatar

im pretty sure the OP never took a look at Arch and just follow the hate movement

Kushia,
@Kushia@lemmy.ml avatar

It’s actually really great… if you know how to interpret and apply the information on it to your situation and adapt as needed. A good new user experience it does not make however.

smegforbrains, in TIL
sharkfucker420, in Just install EndeavorOS lol
@sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml avatar

I will always recommend Debian or Debian based distros to anyone new to Linux. They’ll find their way to arch eventually

Arch btw

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