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KISSmyOS, (edited ) in Your chosen desktop Linux defaults?

My next project is to slim down my Gnome desktop installation, but I guess this is quite common in the Debian community.

This is pretty easy on Debian.

  • Uncheck all tasksel entries during initial installation
  • Reboot
    sudo apt install gnome-shell gnome-terminal nautilus
  • Reboot again.

It’ll boot right into a fully functional Gnome desktop and hardly anything else. The only extra software this installs are yelp, gnome-shell-extension-prefs and network-manager-gnome. Uninstall them with sudo apt purge and sudo apt autoremove --purge if you don’t need them. sudo apt install cups if you need printing and remove your wifi device from /etc/network/devices to let network-manager-gnome handle wifi if you use it.

Your system will require 2.8GB of disk space.

TCB13,
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Yes Debian, then use Flatpack to get all the latest desktop software and enjoy.

KISSmyOS,

Yep, that’s exactly the purpose of this.

wolf,

Thanks for the list.

The way I setup my minimal systems is to uncheck everything during tasksel, then switch to another virtual console, chroot to /target and install what I need. Saves one reboot and hassles, when installing via thump drive. (Did this for Xfce in the past.)

Gentoo1337, in If only more Linux programs followed sandboxing best practices...
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Why is it censored lol

bingbong,

!peepee !< is safe

IverCoder,

It’s actually Dippi but I don’t want to look like I’m advertising it here

ryan_, in Red Hat paywall?! How the Raleigh giant divided the open source community.

Idk, I’d say it brought us together (against RedHat) pretty quickly.

danielfgom,
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Yes, and made many of us realise just how important it is to use and support Community distros and projects, and ditch the Corps.

No more Ubuntu, no more Fedora (Red Hat in disguise). Use Debian and any other community distro.

I’ve settled on Linux Mint Debian Edition, personally.

GenderNeutralBro, in Your chosen desktop Linux defaults?

I don’t think I will ever go back to a filesystem without snapshot support. BTRFS with Snapper is just so damn cool. It’s an absolute lifesaver when working with Nvidia drivers because if you breathe on your system wrong it will fail to boot. Kernel updates and driver updates are a harrowing experience with Nvidia, but snapper is like an IRL cheat code.

OpenSuse has this by default, but I’m back to good ol’ Debian now. This and PipeWire are the main reasons I installed Debian via Spiral Linux instead of the stock Debian installer. Every time I install a new package with apt, it automatically created pre and post snapshots. Absolutely thrilled with the results so far. Saved me a few hours already, after yet another failed Nvidia installation attempt.

wolf,

Nice use case for snapshots! :-) I’ll put it in my backlog, perhaps it is a nice insurance for my crash prone machines.

Guenther_Amanita,

Please tell me more about Spiral Linux. I’m not a huge Debian fan personally(at least for desktop), but I often install Linux on other people’s machines. And Mint/ Debian is great for them.

How does it differ from stock?

GenderNeutralBro, (edited )

Details on the Spiral Linux web site: spirallinux.github.io

Key points are BTRFS with Snapper, PipeWire, newer kernels and some other niceties from backports, proprietary drivers/codecs by default, VirtualBox support (which I’ve personally had huge problems with in the past on multiple distros). They also mention font tweaks, but I haven’t done side-by-side comparisons, so I’m not sure exactly what that means.

Edit: shoutout to Spiral Linux creator @sb56637 , who posted a few illuminating comments on this older thread: lemmy.ca/post/6855079 (if there’s a way to link to posts in an instance-agnostic way on Lemmy, please let me know!)

lemmyvore,

How does it differ from stock?

Well for one thing their driver support is apparently “harrowing”. 😊

I will never understand why people choose distributions that will brick themselves when the wind blows, so they add snapshot support as a band-aid, and then they celebrate “woo hoo, it takes pre and post snapshots after every package install!”

How about using a distro where you never have to restore a snapshot…

GenderNeutralBro, (edited )

To clarify, this is my first time using Spiral Linux. My experience regarding Nvidia drivers is across several different distros (most recently Ubuntu LTS and OpenSuse Tumbleweed). I have never had a seamless experience. Often the initial driver installation works, but CUDA and related tools are finicky. Sometimes a kernel update breaks everything. Sometimes it doesn’t play nice with other kernel extensions.

The Debian version of the drivers didn’t set up Secure Boot properly. Instead, I rolled back and used the generic Nvidia .run installer, which worked fine. Not seamless, obviously, but not really worse than my experience on other distros. In the future I will always just use the generic installers from Nvidia.

Point is, with BTRFS you can just try anything without fear. I’m not going to worry about installing kernel updates from now on, or driver updates, or anything, because if anything goes wrong, it’s no big deal.

lemmyvore,

And my point is that it’s not normal to fear updates. Any updates, but especially updates to essential packages like the kernel or graphics driver.

If you’re using the experimental branch of a distro or experimental versions of packages on purpose then snapshots are a good tool. But if you’re using a normal distro and its normal packages you should not have to resort to such measures.

GenderNeutralBro, (edited )

Nvidia just sucks across every distro I’ve used. Have you had good experience running CUDA, cuDNN, and cuBLAS? If so, which distro?

And have you run it alongside other things that require kernel modules, like ZFS and VirtualBox?

Illecors, in Your chosen desktop Linux defaults?
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andruid, in Red Hat paywall?! How the Raleigh giant divided the open source community.

As a former RedHat advocate it sucks honestly, I have to find companies like Rancher and Suse that off truly FOSS products now. Like I want opensource devs to get paid if they are being depended on, but the RedHat paywall makes avoiding the vendor lock or trying to be cost flexible a legal land mine. They also offer more and more proprietary rebrands of FOSS projects that I fear will get EEEd as well.

possiblylinux127, in If only more Linux programs followed sandboxing best practices...

Cool

Flaky, in Your chosen desktop Linux defaults?
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KDE, just because it’s a good balance of usability and customisability.

vettnerk, (edited ) in Your chosen desktop Linux defaults?

Nothing radical, but I’ve used mplayer as default video player since FreeBSD 4.0, and that’s not changing any time soon. VLC is good and all, I just prefer mplayer.

Oh, and for general purpose storage partitions I use XFS, as it plays nice with beegfs.

barrett9h,

why not mpv?

DaGeek247, in The best RAID setup for internal HDD and does it actually make sense to use it all for gaming?
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Im sorry, but, for things like games, raid isn't really going to give you a perceivable speed increase. Most games today get the most use from the random read, where raid does best is with things like sequencial writes (large movies, etc).

Raid0 will add to your throughput, but your seek times will still be the same regardless of how many drives you add to it.

Here in the us, a 2tb ssd is less than 50$. Im sorry its not the same where you are at.

I know the others suggest raid0, but since youre doing three drives im gonna suggest raid 5 instead. You don't lose out on read performance compared to raid0, just write speeds. More importantly, one drive failing wont actually break anything.

visnudeva, in Your chosen desktop Linux defaults?
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Xfs filesystem and a kernel with BORE scheduler, which are the default on CachyOs for a faster and snappier system.

beta_tester, in Your chosen desktop Linux defaults?

What about fedora silverblue? Would it have saved you?

wolf,

I totally love the idea of Fedora Silverblue and UBlue. Played around with Silverblue and perhaps it will replace my Debian installation on my multi media laptop. Still, no substitute for Debian since the kernel is too new/fast changing (problems with VM and I don’t want to pin an old kernel w/o security updates forever) and I have a very custom (but fully automated) setup via Ansible, which wouldn’t work like this on Silverblue. (I would have to use Ansible for the host and then create a lot of custom containers, to the best of my understanding.)

Smokeydope, (edited ) in How to choose a computer/laptop/device that is better compatible with linux? Are there certain things to look out for when shopping?
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Old thinkpads are the golden standard of Linux compatible laptops, far superior build quality compared to the crap they put out today. Cheap and durable, if a little outdated in specs. TLP is a popular battery management tool that have specific built integration with thinkpads. I managed to snag a couple thinkpads through FB marketplace pre covid for under 200$ each, my daily driver being a t460 made in 2015. i7 quad core processor, 16gb ram, its weakest link is the Intel onboard GPU. The newer thinkpads let you use thunderbolt 3.0 to plug in an external GPU but there’s a trade off between how new a thinkpad is and its build quality. The old ones could be used as body armor plates and probably stop a 50 cal bullet and boot up fine afterwards, the new ones not much

Macaroni9538,

so what i’ve been doing is finding various models through the generations and researching their cpu’s and oddly enough, nearly every one i’ve put in has had subpar ratings or rankings… idk if that really matters or not

Smokeydope,
@Smokeydope@lemmy.world avatar

It depends on what you expect your laptop to do. 8gb ram and a 2.4ghz i5 quad core processor is acceptable for almost any computing task out side of playing heavier load video games or specialty IT stuff like LLMs or cryptomining. If your main concern is video games go with the base model steam deck. Also, when you go check out listing for used think pads you will find they contain wildly different specs even if they are the same series. This is because the companies that bought them new X years ago spend some sweet corporate cash on decking them out with the at-the-time highest end options ordered custom from lenovo, and then they throw them in the literal trash a decade later. Some people who dig them out and resell on facebook don’t know a thing about computers and think they are only worth the base options used price.

Macaroni9538,

This helps alot actually because tbh, I don’t know what “works” good together as far as ram and cpu specs

Smokeydope, (edited )
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Glad to have helped you out. Whatever you decide to get, I highly recommend you give Linux Mint a try next. I started with ubuntu, went to mint and haven’t looked back since. Its been my daily driver for half a decade now and has worked absolutely perfectly with every laptop and desktop ive ever owned. My elderly parents use mint without issue every day.

A quick cheat sheet for understanding computer spec lingo:

Ram:

4gb = bare minimum

8gb = pretty good

16gb = awesome

Intel CPU cores:

duo/two cores = bare minimum

quad core/four cores = pretty good, most common

more = awesome

Intel CPU processor

i3 = bare minimum

i5 = pretty good

i7 = awesome

Intel CPU processing speed measured in gigahertz ghz

2.x ghz = average

3.x ghz = awesome

hard drive

HDD = Slower and more limited lifespan but ok, tends to be higher storage space than SSD for cheaper

SSD = Faster and much longer lifespan, usually only goes up to 256GB but its possible to find 512GB. More expensive than HHDs

Harddrive Storage Space

100GB = bare minimum

256GB = average

512GB = pretty good

1TB = Awesome

Upgrading

You can have a computer shop upgrade harddrives to a multi terabyte SSD as well as replace the batteries for you if you do your research and provide it for them.

Another big win for thinkpads is theres lots of documentation on upgrading, and you can order official parts right from lenovo vendors through their website Which is huge for replacing batteries when they degrade to the point of annoyance. Thinkpads have an external battery and an internal one both you can replace to get supposedly about 10 hours of battery life. I get like 3 at this point so I may be considering this option soon. The Linux command TLP can help you get a good estimate on how degraded your batteries are.

Anyways Good luck!

Smokeydope, in What distro for a MacBook pro late 2013 15'
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Zorin OS has a really good MacOS themed variant last I heard

darth_tiktaalik, in If only more Linux programs followed sandboxing best practices...
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I like how the app name is blacked out so as not to dox the flathub app.

Helmic,

Wouldn’t want bad actors to find privacy respecting software.

radioactiveradio,

Sanboxed from prying eyes, it’s completely safe.

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