Mint, and anything else that requires PPAs. Last time I distrohopped, I had a rule that if I couldn’t install Librewolf in under a minute or two, it wasn’t worth the trouble.
Mind you, this was before flatpaks were big, but I also own a potato and don’t want to waste space on flatpaks.
I’ve been using Xubuntu LTS on my work laptop some 10 years now. All the customization I do is remove snaps and add flatpaks. It just works.
I have RHEL and derivatives on my work machines, where I spend most of my day. I don’t like the RPM package system, which they tried to improve upon several times already. I don’t like Gnome, is too opinionated for me.
I had a colleague who used Gentoo, to claim superiority. His laptop spent most of the day burning kilowatts with the fans blowing. Not for me. Having everyone build packages from source is very unneficient. "Oh, but the security of building your own binaries! " Well, did you look at the code you’re building? No? Well then.
I end up always going back to the DEB ecosystem, with a XFCE desktop. Lately I’ve been using Manjaro with XFCE and Flatpaks, no AUR.
Anything arch, basically. Maybe I'm just a too lower tier power user, but I have always returned to Mint. Rock solid daily driver working out of the box. I don't really want to have to tinker with the os, I admit. It should just work.
Fully agree. I once wanted to try it. I took a look at the documentation for partitioning and realized that I needed 2 full days for a working installation and constant access to another PC to be able to read the documentation… No thanks, I don’t care about the hate, Debian/Ubuntu is up and running in 30 mins and gets out of the way…
My personal PC and work PC are windows. I also just accidently removed a lot of my game files, so I figure it’s about time to start over. I’m going for kubuntu this time. I figure it’s going to be easier to get set up and running quickly without much fuss.
That said, I also run endeavor os on a little netbook tablet I have, so I’m dipping a toe there as well.
PopOS and Ubuntu - really just found that I don’t like gnome. Nothing against it, I know some people love it but it is not for me. This would likely apply to any gnome distro, but those were the two I tried and immediately moved on.
Honorable mention: Manjaro because “it just breaks™” but it wasn’t something I noticed immediately and initially liked the os…
You are aware that you can have multiple DEs installed at once, right? Also many distros have multiple different choices for the default DE. I haven’t used it for probably over a decade, but I’m sure Kubuntu, the KDE version of Ubuntu, still exists.
I am aware the DE can be changed, but it was just an honest answer to OP’s question. I downloaded like 8 different distros and put them on flash drives and tried them all out and that was what caused me to move on. I didn’t have kubuntu downloaded to try, probably because canonical seems to treat them as entirely different distros.
ie, some distros have the DE options when looking at the download page or have you choose during the live boot which to use and include multiple in one iso. Ubuntu makes no mention of those separate downloads unless you explore their site a bit further than the download page. It’s a minor difference but makes a difference when you’re grabbing a handful of isos to try out, you might miss it and assume the one iso has all the options available when it doesn’t, or that it is the only option they provide.
As for PopOS I actually did look into changing to KDE and the popular wisdom at the time on message boards was that changing to KDE would possibly or likely undo most of the benefits of the tweaks and changes system 76 made. I don’t have any idea if that is even true, just what came up when searching a few years back.
I get your reasoning, a lot of “re-spins” are hidden away on many distros download pages, but saying something like “I don’t like Ubuntu because it uses Gnome” is like saying “I don’t like Fords because they come with radios”.
Regarding PopOS it probably is true because it probably all GUI specific things setup for new users, anything system level wouldn’t be changed.
I’ve found nixos is perfect for me since I like how precisely I can configure it.
Oddly enough, I’ve had a decent chunk of my only barely technical friend group switch to it for the opposite reason. They all just copypaste snippets of config between each other, and if something breaks they just go back a revision. I doubt any of them spend much time configuring anything. It really is the perfect idiot proof distro and I don’t normally see people talking about that side of it
Yeah, I think Nix is a good concept but I feel like 99% of the config work could be managed by the OS itself and a GUI to change everything else. I also feel like flakes should be the default, not this weird multiple systems thing they have. I also wish most apps would have a sandbox built in, because nix apps would then rival flatpak and, if ported to Windows, become a universal package manager. Overall good concept but not there yet.
Gentoo: I hated constantly compiling and configuring. It was incredibly time consuming. If I was compiling for uncommon cases it might make sense, but I am dealing with a pretty standard dev machine.
NixOS: The configuration is kind of a pain and never really got the extra features you get beyond package management working correctly.
I refuse to believe there are people who use Gentoo seriously. There is no possible way it’s not just a joke about how goofy a true stallman-esque approach to FOSS is.
I can see it being ok if you cross compile for something like an old power pc mac. Even then there are still some distros that support power pc (Maybe bsds too?).
I used it on an old potato chip of a Pentium 4 (this was nearly 20 years ago). It took days to compile what I wanted, which was a basic system plus KDE. I don’t know what was going through my 17 year old brain. But hey, it walked me through some details of a Linux system that I wouldn’t have encountered otherwise. Now I would recommend Linux From Scratch for learning and a nice, stable distro with a large, supportive community for a daily driver.
Are you me? I just posted the same thing above. I attempted to get KDE working during my freshman year of college (2004-2005) on what was either a high end P4 or Athlon X2, it would spend 10-15 hours compiling X and then break, leaving me no clue what to do but I went from using Ubuntu for about 5 months to a stage 2 Gentoo installation. I never did get it working.
I’ll give you one reason for using Gentoo: option of no systemd.
Gentoo is one of the few distros which still offer a systemdless setup given its nature of high configurability. You can tell the system-wide config file to exclude systemd support in every package it attemps to compile.
I hope you or anyone who just enjoys their linux machine running fine and happily, now be able to see what freedom can mean in the open source universe. Cheers.
I use it, been using it for a while. Both my desktop and laptop run it. I like it a lot and find it really easy to use. Amytime I find an issue I can pretty quickly fix it and keep my system clean. Games run great, my music production software is great, it's fast, and just overall very enjoyable to use.
Debian, don't like apt.
Arch, breaks too much.
NixOs, just don't need the tools it provides.
Any fork of a mainline distro because it's never as good as the root.
I used arch for a while, but got sick of running repairs every few weeks. I use Gentoo now, it's stable and good. I have a fuck ton of ram and a good cpu, I also take advantage of binary packages from time to time. I don't really need to install new things that much after having done the initial install.
The arch breaks were always related to keys. I would run an update and there would always be an error related to the keys. Never had a breakage due to confs.
I used to distro-hop until 2017 when I started using Gentoo as my main distro. I did not have the same experiences as you with Arch but I tended to avoid the AUR. Ultimately Gentoo has kept my attention by being more flexible rather than having negative experiences with Arch.
I suppose I still distro-hop a little bit on an old laptop I’ve got but that one alternates between Debian and OpenBSD; also its primary use is a terminal for SSH’ing into my Gentoo desktop from the sofa.
Probably the only distro I’ve had a truly bad experience with is Manjaro. The additional repo that it comes bundled with creates more problems than it solves. Also - although this never affected me personally - the story about developers asking their users to reset their system clocks to accept an expired PGP key is an absolute scandal.
Over the years I have tried most mainstream distros. I have never seen a reason to use anything other than Debian. Never had it break due to upgrading, I have never tried Nix, Alpine, Gentoo, or Slackware, not many other others I haven’t tried since I started using Linux in 2000.
Well, for the tech illerterate. Arch is pretty simple and excellent to manage as everything is simple in the system together with the Arch Wiki.
But this is only for those who tinker and manage their systems or want to learn more about the Linux system. Endeavour is better for the normal user who doesn’t want to break their head. Its definetly not the KISS 1. Which you mentioned
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