This guy has a good take on linux companies, agree or disagree?

Kent right here talks about how Linux related companies need to focus on putting their resources towards collaborating and helping big companies port their software and THEN introduce open source software to new users instead of remaking desktop environments, pushing companies away, and overall doing the same thing over and over.

I kind of agree with him just not completely, but my question is:

Do any of you agree?

fl42v,

Meh, idk tf he says he understands. Like “make [ported adobe CC] popos-exclusive”: sure, big brain, how’s that supposed to work, exactly? Or “there are 3 desktops ppl GAF about”: riiiight, me along with other wm users aren’t ppl anymore, apparently.

The whole video pretty much boils down to “I don’t need X, hence nobody [«meaning the vast majority of ppl»] needs x”. By the same logic, the “vast majority” doesn’t need CC either, it’s mostly necessary for professional designers, etc 🤷

I mean it’s probably possible to choose the windows route and go “we make one steaming pile of garbage that kinda works everyone but perfectly - for nobody”, yet linux distros so far have been pro-choice and pro-customization. You want “just works”? Sure, go with X, Y, and Z distros. Wanna something specifically tailored for your workflow? You may start with the same and replace/modify stuff, but also I, J, and K are a great base to build your future setup from the ground up and avoid banging your head against the wall while figuring out what drugs their devs were on. And the same goes for DEs/WMs: gnome is, gnome also works, yet if you want to change it significantly, you’ll either have to mess with extensions or maintain a fork of a huge codebase you don’t fully understand and most of which you don’t exactly need. So, building from scratch may just be an easier solution.

Technically, you can also PR, yet it can easily be rejected, and then you’re back to forks.

nous, (edited )

Oh, just invest in adobe and get it developed for Linux - easy, why didnt anyone think of this before. And better yet, if they do invest they could make it a PopOS exclusive!!?!?!! \s

It wont work because Adobe does not care and there is not enough market share in Linux for them to bother with it. No amount of money that PopOS has will be able to convince Adobe to develop it for Linux and there is no way in hell Adobe will give them access to their source to develop it for Linux. That whole argument is just a non-starter.

xyguy,

I think a lot of people get caught up in wanting Linux to “win” be getting more market share or getting XYZ software ported to Linux but Linux is doing great. Unlike Microsoft aggressively pushing Windows and sacrificing their own users on the altar of market share, Linux can just be.

More share would be great and greater software availability would be awesome but Linux doesn’t need to “beat” Windows or Mac to be useful or relevant or good. It already is. And I for one look forward to any new DE’s that anyone wants to make.

It would be nice to get some kind of more usable CAD program on Linux though but it’s not up to Pop_OS to do that, it’s up to Autodesk or a team of extremely talented FOSS programmers or a Blender Foundation situation where the whole industry commits to a new open standard.

lordnikon,

couldn’t agree more on a long enough timeline we win.

kittykittycatboys, (edited )
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my take is that you really cant get big compnies to port to linux in the way he describes, and a lot of linux users wont use it anyway cuz its not foss

also afaik cosmic isnt just gnome in rust? its more like a realised knome (mix of kde and gnome, april fools 202x)

big companies will move with userbase, and cosmic being developed wont hurt the userbase growth of desktop linux. jeez that last part about foss evangelists just like no

honestly this man just seems a bit fustrated by not having a latest popos release?

also : people create clones of software all the time, not just in foss projects

overall, id say i dont really agree with him. imo cosmic is fine and the big companies really arent that interested anyway, i don’t think giving them money will help tbh, id much prefer foss alternatives being given funding

Chalix,

Completely fair take. 👍

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