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GreenMario, in When you need to retire an old server

Depends. What’s the uptime on that server? Are we talking years? Thatd be worth to “pour one out for da homies”.

Phanlix, in If linux distributions were tools.

I’ve been documenting my experience with switching over to linux and how it’s gone. Day 1 and 2 posts have been made.

Fedora is terrible from my day 1 experience.

pizzawithdirt,

Seems like you’re currently using Pop! OS. Just wanted to give you some tips: Don’t install Manjaro, AFAIK their packages are mostly outdated and the distro says it supports the Arch User Repository when it clearly does not and breaks the system. Some more distros that you can use are Nobara (which is Fedora based so there is a chance you will face the same issues), Linux Mint, KDE Neon and Ubuntu.

Phanlix,

Yep! Pop!OS is my current OS.

After researching Nobara was actually my first choice of OS! Sadly, I couldn’t get the live USB off their site to work, all I ever got was a black screen when booting from the USB. When I did it in command line it threw some kernel errors.

Fedora KDEPlasma was my second choice as I liked the desktop layout. It didn’t like it when I installed the nvidia drivers.

Fedora 39 workstation was my last fedora. I actually got Nvidia working on it. But when I tried to play a video from my NAS server it was choppy and would crash when tracking within the video file. Which I’m guessing is some Nvidia compatibility issues based on what I was reading on the forums, which is apparently a known and unresolved issue in Fedora 39 as of now.

Pop!OS just worked. Off the rip, zero issues whatsoever with Nvidia or graphics issues. Most issues have been caused by my inexperience so far.

_cnt0,

If your fedora experience is that terrible, you’ve clearly not figured out how it’s done.

Phanlix,

You can read about my experience with Fedora on my day 1 post if you’d like. Bottom line, there were a TON of issues with Nvidia compatibility, and VLC ran like garbage on it.

_cnt0,

I think I don’t need to reiterate the replies you got on that post and explain why it was downvoted.

Phanlix,

Honestly, I don’t really care what you think.

Linux users say that this is some kind of easy to use, can replace windows at any point in time, yet one of the most popular distros in existence is definitely not ready for prime time.

My day 2 and 3 posts have been pretty highly upvoted! Almost like linux users only like hearing the good and not the bad.

_cnt0,

Honestly, I don’t really care what you think.

The feeling is reciprocal.

Phanlix,

Then feel free to fuck off.

You came in here and started this saying it’s basically my fault I had a bad time with Fedora. Your condescending and pretentious attitude has been noted, but I’m a new user to Linux my man. None of this is familiar. As my day 2 and 3 posts show I can actually troubleshoot and fix things, if I couldn’t figure it out, I’d say it’s indicative of production and deployment issues on the developers end.

But please feel free to not respond, you’re exactly the kind of Linux user that gives the community it’s negative stigma.

_cnt0,

Then feel free to fuck off.

I’ll come back to this at the end.

You came in here […]

I’m the OP of the post; you came in here.

[…] and started this saying it’s basically my fault I had a bad time with Fedora.

It is/was.

[…] Your condescending and pretentious attitude has been noted, […]

I’ll come back to this further down.

[…] but I’m a new user to Linux my man.

And evidently a very ignorant one at that. You come at it with preconceived notions of how distributions should work, and then get angry when they don’t, when five minutes of googling could have prevented your problems. Only to be followed by troll-level low effort rants on the internet.

None of this is familiar.

And blind trial and error is no good way to change that.

As my day 2 and 3 posts show I can actually troubleshoot and fix things, if I couldn’t figure it out, I’d say it’s indicative of production and deployment issues on the developers end.

Or, your aforementioned ignorance and wrong preconceived notions of how you think things should work.

As your day 1 post shows, you have the attention span of a squirrel and frustration tolerance of a toddler. Your assumption, that your opinion on a distribution, after spending less than one day with it, has any merit or value is plain arrogant.

But please feel free to not respond, […]

You can always walk away from this.

[…] you’re exactly the kind of Linux user that gives the community it’s negative stigma.

You are exactly the kind of person, why I’m in favor of something akin to a drivers license for computers.

[…] Your condescending and pretentious attitude has been noted, […]

There’s nothing noteworthy about your arrogance, ignorance, lack of frustration tolerance and attention span.

Then feel free to fuck off.

Your opinions have the substance of a vacuum and structural integrity of a house of cards. Do yourself and “us” (the linux community) a favor and kindly fuck off yourself.

BewilderedBeast,
@BewilderedBeast@mander.xyz avatar

And you, rather than helping someone who admitted that they were new to the community and trying to learn, decided to just be a dick.

_cnt0,

You’ve clearly not read his post and comments. He’s a massive asshole.

BewilderedBeast,
@BewilderedBeast@mander.xyz avatar

I did. As someone who is also new to Linux and to programming, I’ve run into similar hurdles and it is frustrating. Now I’m not trying to build a gaming system, but just something to learn on. I’m still learning to read through and interpret documentation and it often get way too over my head that I need to ask the community for help; and honestly, I don’t like to because of reactions like yours.

It’s really disheartening to come to the community, try to ask for help and to be told that I should just do it right, or to catch flak for not asking the rifht question, or to have someone share a chunk of code and say, “just use this,” which doesn’t help me learn.

To be clear, my previous comment was a pre-coffee and just irked me in the wrong way; I do owe you an apology for that so, sorry.

_cnt0,

I’m still learning to read through and interpret documentation and it often get way too over my head that I need to ask the community for help; […]

And there’s nothing wrong with that. And if you just ask, not even nicely, you’ll usually get productive help. I know I’ve provided help many times, no matter how “noobish” the question.

[…] and honestly, I don’t like to because of reactions like yours.

If you don’t act like a massive asshole, you don’t get such reactions.

It’s really disheartening to come to the community, try to ask for help and to be told that I should just do it right, or to catch flak for not asking the rifht question, or to have someone share a chunk of code and say, “just use this,” which doesn’t help me learn.

He didn’t come and asked. He ranted and shat on everything and everybody. He even received some help despite that. His reaction was offensive and more verbal diarrhea.

To be clear, my previous comment was a pre-coffee and just irked me in the wrong way; I do owe you an apology for that so, sorry.

Don’t sweat it. My skin is thicker than that.

Phanlix,

I’m not even going to do you the dignity of reading this.

_cnt0,

Consistent in your ignorance.

Goodman, (edited )

I hear you I hear you. Whenever people ask me about my device I usually tell them that you just exchange the windows problems for linux problems. I don’t mind fixing things as much because the device really feels like my own so I am more forgiving than I was on my other devices. Don’t know how that is for other distros since there are so many but in my experience but yeah I’ve lost count of how many times I’ve had to repair my bluetooth audio.

mexicancartel,
  • Linux users say that this is some kind of easy to use, can replace windows at any point in time, yet one of the most popular distros in existence is definitely not ready for prime time.

Well should we consider device specific issues? First of all thoose device manufacturers never made it for linux and when a new device comes in, its likely broken.

What I would say linux can easily replace windows is when a working linux install(i.e. when its running in a fully compatible device), can do all computing needs. And I think linux actually does that.

I know you wouldn’t buy a new device for linux but even windows when you manually install in a device requires much setup and driver installs to get working well. But in the windows side, drivers are always availiable unlike in linux where community needs to reverse engineer and make the drivers themselves, which is always late than windows.

0ddysseus,

Yeah I think that’s kinda the point. Fedora does a bunch of things in really specific ways that aren’t at all like Debian based distros or Mac or windows. Eg - Selinux. So you, initial experience is pretty poor if you don’t know a decent amount about what’s going on

zaphod, in Crash reporting

On MacOS if you click on the “Report…” button it expands to something similar to what you see on the left.

lemmesay,
@lemmesay@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

thanks! never clicked that for fear that they’d do something similar to windows.
I’ll try it next time it comes up.

maybe there should be a third button for less confusion? or does it go against apple’s “design” principles? :p

AnActOfCreation,
@AnActOfCreation@programming.dev avatar

maybe there should be a third button for less confusion?

I think it’s fine as is. Three dots after a button / menu item imply more interaction is required before an action is taken.

zaphod,

To demonstrate I got an app to crash, this is what you see when you click on the report button. The report is longer, trying to show where the app crashed, at the bottom there’s a button to send a report to apple

https://feddit.de/pictrs/image/0d043ab4-1370-4904-957e-8f2327cb4088.png

lemmesay,
@lemmesay@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

looks much better than what I’d thought. thanks for sharing mate! BTW, the interface is in French, right?

zaphod,

Yes, on the bottom it says on the left to hide the details, and on the right don’t send and send to apple.

lemmesay,
@lemmesay@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

update: doesn’t have button on my machine.
just two buttons: show/hide details, and report. can’t even go back or close it.

screenshot of pop-up after report was clickedsame poou-up, just expanded

uis,
@uis@lemmy.world avatar

“Intuitive” design

bamboo, in happy 1_700_000_000 everyone!

What shell is this that it outputs the duration after exiting the loop? Looks nifty.

lemmesay, (edited )
@lemmesay@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

it’s starship. you should check it out if you don’t have a handcrafted prompt.

edit: shell is bash. just with a custom prompt in .bashrc.

ThatFembyWho, in If linux distributions were tools.

So I just spent the last day reading the Arch wiki on butt plugs. It is now fully configured and ready for use 🥴

rtxn,

You’re joking, but-- buttplug.io

ChaoticNeutralCzech, (edited )

The second sentence on the website

WELCOME STARDEW VALLEY AND ULTRAKILL PLAYERS! […] Check out Lovense, Kiiroo, Satisfyer and others for toys that will work with the game!

> STARDEW VALLEY

rtxn,

Save up all of your starfruit wine for three years and turn it in at once to have your genitals tenderized into a fine paste.

ChaoticNeutralCzech, (edited )

I haven’t played Stardew Valley. What does starfruit wine do? Does ot help you get especially romantic with Harvey or Leah?

rtxn,

It’s just very rare and expensive. Getting my starfruit plantation running turned me into the biggest kulak in town.

ChaoticNeutralCzech,

So… the sex toy integration is just about the money? Lame.

rtxn,

I have no idea what triggers what, I don’t have a smart buttplug

ChaoticNeutralCzech,

The game features relationship mechanics so I would imagine that it is linked to romantic pursuit.

GreenMario,

Ultrakill

Explain. I’m a Boom shoot fan and this is on my wishlist after I clear a few in my backlog. Is Ultrakill popular with Butt Plug enthusiasts?

ChaoticNeutralCzech,

I am just as confused as you are. If anything, your knowledge of Ultrakill could clear things up.

SaltyIceteaMaker,

I think they implemented it just because they could. The developers of ultrakill are… Eccentric to say the least

TacoNissan,

This could unironically be useful for adult themed games lmao

Evkob,
@Evkob@lemmy.ca avatar

The fact that this exists makes me so happy. I doubt I’d ever use a smart buttplug, but I’m oddly relived that those who want Bluetooth up their ass can do so using open-source software.

ThatFembyWho,

Wow I didn’t know I needed this, thanks

Creatortray, in Linux mint = best beginner distro

I’m really enjoying zorin right now.

domesticstreetcat, (edited ) in what's your ubuntu?

Pop has been fantastic and ended my distro hopping.

smileyhead, in If linux distributions were tools.

I don’t get it…

OrteilGenou,

Loosen up baby

snoopfrog, (edited ) in If linux distributions were tools.

Real question if I can sneak one in. If I want to buy a machine suitable to run Darktable for photo editing, which Linux distribution would be ideal for that? Other than photo editing, I might watch movies in browser while browsing other sites on a different screen. That’s all I really use PC to do these days. Advice? I don’t want to accidently use a butt plug.

Edit for additional context if it wasn’t immediately apparent: I am a casual who just doesn’t like Microsoft. But I don’t use anything else that concerns me for a switch to Linux. I just want easy setup and use for my purposes.

alsimoneau,

I always recommend mint. There are a lot of small convenience features that remove friction points for new users and because it’s based on the very popular Ubuntu there are a lot of documentation out there.

governorkeagan,

I’ve switched from Windows 11 to Pop!_OS and don’t have any complaints. It looks different to Windows (no start menu like windows) but that wasn’t a turn off for me. If you want something that looks closer to a windows machine, Mint is a great option

trackcharlie,

I would personally recommend EndeavourOS or PopOS.

endeavouros.com

pop.system76.com

I recommend EndeavourOS primarily because of it’s ease of use and rolling distro means you’ll have access to the latest bug fixes and patches (and a very active and supportive community), whereas it does come with the drawback of requiring to fix things every now and then if you’ve installed packages from places other than endeavour/Aur or require packages/apps that are older.

Yay (package manager) is very easy to get using as a beginner, however, if you don’t want rolling updates and just large update packages similar in scope to windows service pack updates I’d recommend popos or the sister/base os ubuntu. (fedora apparently may be good in this instance as well but I’ve very little contact with the OS and have been avoiding RHEL-related products recently because of their anti-consumer and anti-open source actions recently).

Ultimately it’s definitely recommended that you try a few distro’s to get a feel for what you like and then customize to your hearts content.

distrowatch.com if you’d like a more in depth review of various distros and what their performance bonuses or problems are.

EndeavourOS with xfce4 is very clean and quick to pick up with their little introductory/learning module that they include (once installed or on live, it will provide a popup that includes the following):

https://lemmynsfw.com/pictrs/image/208118eb-0112-4ac8-a733-ce66b34c7781.webp

https://lemmynsfw.com/pictrs/image/3c8e9a1d-de68-47da-96a9-eb18cb009b09.webp

https://lemmynsfw.com/pictrs/image/4e711377-80de-4a7b-9c27-d91694e441c4.webp

https://lemmynsfw.com/pictrs/image/9a4c7588-fb9a-41e0-8097-84310e4c64fe.webp

_cnt0,

I have no experience with Darktable. But, really any and every distro should do it. Every distro comes with a learning curve. My personal advice would be not to go with distro derivatives. In the early days, Ubuntu was quite good, for making Debian “more accessible” to a larger audience and people unfamiliar with linux. I still like it for being an African success story. But, I can’t recommend it anymore for a slew of reasons. So, I’d say, go with debian, fedora, or even Arch. If you want to go with debian, you should know about non-free. If you go with fedora, you should know about rpmfusion. If you want to go with Arch, you should be comfortable with a more bare-bones and hands-on experience and reading the Arch-wiki (which is one of the most extensive and best wikis out there, and even useful if you use another distro). If you want something stable that just works and don’t need the newest of the new software, use debian. If you want the bleeding edge, that mostly just works, go with fedora. If you want the bleeding edge, want maximum control, and are not afraid to stay on top of it, go with Arch. Of course, many other distros could be a good pick for you. They all have pros and cons.

Underwaterbob, in When you need to retire an old server

The year Titanic came out, I finally decided to see what the fuss was about in it’s 18th week playing (a new record!) in our local theater. I took my seat, and there were a couple of teenage girls a few seats over from mine. They started sobbing during the opening credits. I’m fairly certain they’d seen the movie already. Probably more than once.

Sanguine, in POV: you haven't updated in 3 days, and you're using a rolling release system

Damn, how many packages you feeding that thing. Post the neofetch 🤣

Arch beenn feeling this way over last few weeks with all the kde updates basically adding “5” to end of their name.

Tb0n3,

It’s even worse when you have 60 packages to just hit enter to and then one that defaults to no for a conflict and you have to do it all over again.

cley_faye, in Bye bye edge

The overlap of people that will not remove the initial bloat (even if it’s a button displayed prominently on first start) and people inclined to use Linux in the first place is not that great.

Smoogs, in Bye bye edge

There’s an app called “whatever”? Is it the new WhatsApp? Or an app about being indifferent?

sederx, in Bye bye edge

If you are too stupid for your own good it’s not our problem.

ftbd, in Bye bye edge

Idk, the whole “Megacorp is forced to do reasonable thing, but will still only do so in regions where the law applies” should further encourage people to move away from all their crap.

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