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riodoro1, in If linux distros were WW2 tanks. Made by a guy who tries to play War Thunder with linux.

Im really curious as to why arch is always criticized for lack of reliability. Ive set up mine btw a long while ago, update it once a month if I remember and it just works™

Ive used debian previously and every second update left me with fucked up nvidia drivers and needing to boot to shell.

Mio, in Linux mint = best beginner distro

Why don’t Windows/MacOS need snaps/flatpak?

OsrsNeedsF2P, (edited )

Because every app gives it’s own installer and annoying “Please update!” popup

BlackPit, in Linux mint = best beginner distro

I’ve tested over 40 Linux distributions over a long span of time, but I’ve never tried Mint. The reason being that all three times I’ve read something nice that inspired me to try it again the download hashes don’t match, and we find out their servers were compromised. How’s that going?

OsrsNeedsF2P,

In 5+ years of OSS, only once have I even heard of hashes not matching and a build server being compromised, and it was fixed within 30 minutes. It was also a very big deal.

Basically, what you’re saying and what a quick search on Google shows seems to suggest user error.

BlackPit,

Lol, well there’s no way I can “prove” it not having taken screenshots and archived them. It’s been well over five years since the last time. I’ll save you the humble boast, but no user error here regarding verifying ISOs.

queue, in Linux mint = best beginner distro
@queue@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Linux Mint has a Debian edition available, I’m curious about that one.

kirk782,
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It is a long term release based on Debian so that if Canonical goes down someday and Ubuntu falls, they will have a fallback base distro to remain on.

pineapplelover, in Need to switch to Hanna Montana Linux now
Wilzax, in The successor should be called Plan 69 from Bell Labs

Stock debian >>>

PepeLivesMatter, in Bye bye edge
@PepeLivesMatter@lemmy.today avatar

As someone who has has tried repeatedly for more than ten years to use Linux, Linux is already doing a good enough job at that without their help.

MyCodeZero,
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Just try fedora, its easy

PepeLivesMatter,
@PepeLivesMatter@lemmy.today avatar

I’ve been a software engineer for many years so trust me when I say this has nothing to do with how hard or easy it is to install. I used to run Gentoo at some point so I’m not exactly CLI averse. The problem isn’t the installation, it’s maintenance. Shit just keeps on breaking for no reason and I’m tired of figuring out how to fix it.

Linux is simply an enormous timesink. It constantly needs handholding and babysitting in order to work. And it doesn’t even reward you for it with a superior user experience, just a steady stream of problems to fix. Windows might not be perfect, but it at least it works. Meanwhile, Linux is like an insecure girlfriend, it constantly needs reassurance that you still love it.

puppy,

Linux needs constant babysitting? Hmm I wonder why the majority of the internet servers is Linux not Windows. Even in critical infrastructure where stability is valued, not cost.

However you can’t choose a bad distro (bad for your needs that is) ans expect a flawless experience. When I read your first sentence I expected you to be a video editor or in a field where the industry standard software is only limited to Windows. But if your a developer it’s 100% your fault. I am running Linux for over a decade with zero problems. Only time when I had a problem, I was running Arch (btw) and updating the system blindly, daily.

PepeLivesMatter,
@PepeLivesMatter@lemmy.today avatar

Oh yes, Linux is great for servers, not doubt, but on the desktop, not so much. Unless all you do is administering Linux servers, I guess.

ky56, (edited )

You aren’t dynamically changing configs, libraries and programs on a production server like you are on a user facing system. That the killer. Linux servers are only stable when you leave them alone.

Updates to servers are generally done by beta testing them on identical hardware in the lab and when you have a functioning image you send that to production. To expect that kind of treatment on a user facing system when you say update the web browser would be beyond unacceptable.

As long as GNU/Linux systems continue to have ABI compatibility issues and general buggy issues between updates, it will never be considered a decent user facing system.

Also the quality of code for CLI programs is far more roadtested than GUI related code since there are major corporate efforts to make Linux servers more stable. Since GUI systems aren’t needed for servers they don’t get the same level of attention. That attention comes from the KDE and gnome foundations which don’t have nearly the same kind of money.

There’s a reason people are celebrating Valve contributing to KDE and related GUI projects as there’s finally some real money being thrown at the problem with real results.

c0mbatbag3l,
@c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world avatar

Those servers aren’t being changed almost ever outside of required updates, a user workstation is much more volatile in regular everyday use.

You sound like you have hobbyist level IT knowledge.

puppy, (edited )

You sound like you have hobbyist level IT nowledge.

Then I should be grateful that my employer is paying me despite my hobbyist level knowledge.

Honytawk,

Whatever your employer pays, they are overpaying you.

puppy, (edited )

I have had zero problems with Linux so I lack knowledge and am overpaid? You have problems therefore you are paid fairly? Hmm sounds very logical. Any critical infrastructure project would be lucky to have you.

Furthermore, you have told another commentor in this same thread that they reek of incompetence because they have a 7 hour Windows install, yet I am being overpaid because I don’t have any problems in Linux? So a competent developer should breeze through Windows but should struggle in Linux? Is that it? Kinda contradictory don’t you think?

sederx,

skill issues

brochard, (edited ) in The successor should be called Plan 69 from Bell Labs

RedoxOS >>> It’s written in Rust and is learning both from the success of Linux by being source compatible with it and from smaller/experimental OS like Plan9, seL4, Minix and BSD.

Thcdenton, in The successor should be called Plan 69 from Bell Labs

My beard isn’t thick enough for Plan 9 😔

Sir_Simon_Spamalot, in Linux mint = best beginner distro

Jokes aside, this kind of gatekeeping behavior is what gives Linux a bad name. Also, you don’t have to be a beginner to love Linux Mint.

Pantherina,

You just have to not care about Wayland ;D or modern software

Shady_Shiroe, in Cinnabuntu
@Shady_Shiroe@lemmy.world avatar

Cutout the middle man, go LMDE

electric_nan, in Linux mint = best beginner distro

You don’t have to be a beginner to love Mint. I am very happy that they are putting more energy into the Debian edition. I’ve tried lots of other distros over the years, and I am just comfortable in Mint.

Jayb151, in Come to the Linux side of the force

The funny thing is that my win10 laptop says it can’t run win 11… But my win 11 USB stick says different.

AceFuzzLord, in Bye bye edge

As great as Linux can be, using windows without the bloat or spyware is fine by me. Hell, using it with all that is fine just so long as the end user is happy.

vox, (edited ) in Need to switch to Hanna Montana Linux now
@vox@sopuli.xyz avatar

Microsoft:

adding telemetry to the terminal.
(in a recent poweshell update)

lemmesay,
@lemmesay@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

with microsoft, it’s everyday affair.

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