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PlexSheep, in Text editor war

In the world of text editors, VIM, specifically NeoVim is the shining light. Standing at the pinnacle of creation at a height that can only be reached by zealous emacs users.

They have a learning curve through. Nano is obviously easier, but it’s also just a basic editor.

:x

optimal,
@optimal@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

As an Emacs user, Neovim was like chains. Shackles.

eruchitanda, in Bye bye edge
@eruchitanda@lemmy.world avatar

But they still won’t be able to remove all of the baked-in spyware.

atyaz,

Try Ubuntu, you can uninstall the baked in spyware

eruchitanda,
@eruchitanda@lemmy.world avatar

Snaps, I think I’ll pass.

Even without them, I don’t have time to uninstall/remove everything I don’t need.

DIY distros suit my needs more, but thanks anyway.

vegantomato,
@vegantomato@lemmy.world avatar

I understand that this is a meme, but dismissing one of the best distro family because snaps are included is dumb. It is easy to uninstall snap entirely.

The only serious bummer is that the Firefox deb-package is now fake and only installs the snap version of Firefox. Go get Librewolf, which is basically a hardened Firefox, and use their repository.

It is fun to meme around when it is with people that are familiar with Linux. But some Windows/MacOS users who are interested in Linux might take you seriously. Ubuntu and Ubuntu-like distros are really good in terms of ease of use, support and compatibility. My first recommendation for a new Linux user is Ubuntu or variations thereof.

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  • BigDanishGuy,

    Tried Debian stable, kept not being able to get stuff to work because of the packages always being too old. Not advocating for Ubuntu either, but Debian? For a desktop? GTFO! I’d sooner start using emacs instead of vim.

    M500,

    So many things these days are flatpaks and app images. So it almost doesn’t matter.

    I’m don’t know your situation but I’m sure there are reasons someone might not be able to use Debian desktop.

    IRQBreaker,

    A somewhat anecdotal comment here, but I’ve using Debian stable as a daily driver for years, both at work and at home. Haven’t had any issues yet. It’s so stable it’s almost boring. 😀 However, this is fine since I can focus on getting stuff done instead of messing about with the distro.

    Jumuta,

    isn’t ubuntu based on debian stable and so have even older packages?

    RmDebArc_5,
    @RmDebArc_5@lemmy.ml avatar

    Ubuntu has its own repos independent from Debians

    ObviouslyNotBanana,
    @ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world avatar

    Try Debian, you can install the spyware

    TrickDacy,
    @TrickDacy@lemmy.world avatar

    I wanted to, and did manage to figure the installer out once, but damn it’s user unfriendly… The os seems fine, installer was not. I had some other issues I was hoping would be fixed in Debian that weren’t, so unfortunately I did not stick with it

    ObviouslyNotBanana,
    @ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world avatar

    The website is the least user friendly of all distros lol

    theneverfox,
    @theneverfox@pawb.social avatar

    Does debian even exist? I’ve never seen it… I’ve used a dozen flavors of “debian” Linux professionally, as well as the headwear related branches and centos… Most recently I’ve gotten into nixos (I tried a half dozen distros, none of the “Nvidia friendly” distros would work with my graphics card outside safe mode, even after debugging and official docs listing it as compatible with Ubuntu… Five lines in the nix config, will nix again)

    All this time, I’ve seen countless mentions of this mythical debian… at this point I’m pretty sure it’s just a meme, like Australia. I get Australia, someone mispronounced Austria and made up this wild story of a land full of deer who hop on two legs and kickbox (hilarious), but I don’t get the joke with debian. Is it just supposed to be the mythical Linux that works on any hardware configuration?

    Empricorn,

    Moving to an entirely different operating system is a big step just to… end up with closed, proprietary software and spyware again.

    ColdWater,
    @ColdWater@lemmy.ca avatar

    If you switch why not go alway? Try Linux from scratch or Arch/Debian, Ubuntu is only a few steps behind MS in term of spyware

    pineapplelover,

    You can try linux mint debian edition

    www.linuxmint.com/download_lmde.php

    Honytawk,

    If it really was that much spyware, the EU would already have created laws to do something about it.

    More likely is that it really isn’t spyware as much as it is basic unanimous telemetry, which you can disable in the settings.

    savvywolf, in Come to the Linux side of the force
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    You can’t install MacOS on a PC, silly!

    RmDebArc_5,
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    TrickDacy,
    @TrickDacy@lemmy.world avatar

    You could, but why would you want to?

    beeng, in Linux mint = best beginner distro

    What if I don’t like the windows start bar feel of Mint?

    RmDebArc_5,
    @RmDebArc_5@lemmy.ml avatar

    Zorin or Pop OS, or reconfigure it

    chillytuna,

    @beeng @RmDebArc_5 I'm not a Mint user, but you can switch it out for an Openbox/Tint2 config pretty easily (I think!).

    beeng,

    Panel 4?

    PopShark, in Linux mint = best beginner distro

    Does Mint support arm64 yet? I would be ecstatic for a mint VM in parallels on my MacBook but last time I tried I couldn’t I don’t think. Stock Ubuntu is just… okay but I always loved the out of box experience and look and feel of mint it was my choice for dual booting years ago on old windows laptops

    sederx, in An unbiased comparison of linux distributions' setup

    Difference is the arch user can probably land a six figure job now.

    Presi300, in Opening a full editor is overrated
    @Presi300@lemmy.world avatar

    You’re a monster of you actually like regex more than just opening a full text editor. I’d open visual studio and use it to give the text I need before I touch sed

    Presi300, (edited ) in Text editor war
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    Micro users: am i joke to you

    (I use VSCode)

    caseyweederman,

    I want to use Micro so badly but my fingers only know Nano’s nonsense shortcut keys.
    Also I couldn’t figure out how to make it use real tabs instead of a bunch of spaces. Not great for Python scripts.

    Buddahriffic,

    I’ve never had to worry about tabs vs spaces with Python. Makefile, on the other hand…

    lemmesay,
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    Presi300,
    @Presi300@lemmy.world avatar

    Ik about vscodium, it doesn’t have all extensions

    lemmesay,
    @lemmesay@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

    you can just download those via Microsoft’s website as vsix and import them to codium. and maybe add an issue/pr in extension’s repo so that it’s available on open-vsix next time. :)

    Presi300,
    @Presi300@lemmy.world avatar

    I’ve actually been trying vscodium for a few days now, and it’s mostly been pretty good, though idk if I’ll bother switching to it just yet…

    cyanarchy,

    It’s okay, I’m used to being ignored.

    Underwaterbob, in Linux mint = best beginner distro

    All the talk of Mint lately. Looks like my fifteen-year Ubuntu streak may be coming to an end. Will I, decidedly not a power-user just an Internet browser, occasional game player, Csound programmer, Libreoffice user notice a difference? Is Mint better at printing? That’s the only real problem I’ve had with Ubuntu over the years.

    Johanno, (edited )

    In my experience Linux is better at printing than windows. Especially debian based distros.

    However you can just Google your printer and see if there are issues.

    Edit: can’t read. I don’t know if there will be any change on printing since mint really just removes snap and Ubuntu stuff and adds flatpak and a few smaller details.

    Underwaterbob,

    It was weird. Ubuntu 18.04 LTS printed perfectly. First try, every time. Barring printer issues not related to the OS anyway. Then, 20.04 dropped, and I couldn’t print anything. For two years, I had to move files to the Mac on the front desk to print at work because it refused to print anything. Same printer. I tried a few fixes people had posted, but none worked for me, and most fixes were for HP printers and mine is an Epson, which no one reported any problems with.

    Now, with 22.04, I get intermittent printing. It works more often than not, but I’d estimate my print jobs get randomly canceled about 30% of the time. Which is annoying, but not deal-breaking since I usually just push it through again, and it works. To be fair, it might be because of wireless printing, but I doubt it since like I said, 18.04 worked flawlessly with the exact same setup. I might just try out Mint sometime and see if it makes a difference.

    chillytuna,

    @Underwaterbob @Johanno Have you considered using a Raspberry Pi as a printer server? It might not be ideal, but - if it (the Pi) is physically connected to your printer - I wonder if it could negate the 30% failure rate?

    Underwaterbob,

    That sounds like a lot of trouble and potential trouble for people who use the printer who don’t have the trouble I do. I can live with the failure rate. It happens quickly, and I can just print again. If Mint fixes it, that’s great!

    Johanno,

    You can try. I think nobody understands printer

    clot27, in Useless messenger
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    telegram GOAT

    paholg, in Opening a full editor is overrated

    I just learned that the Mac version of sed requires a backup file for the -i flag, making it really hard to write cross-platform scripts that use it.

    RegalPotoo, in i hate that it's very often like this
    @RegalPotoo@lemmy.world avatar

    With my finger on the trigger / I run dot slash configure / yo this package is big / but my package is bigger

    Sanyanov, in Text editor war

    Use DE and edit files with graphical editors like a normal human being.

    Problem solved.

    Sanyanov,

    (But also, nano for the win)

    josefo,

    cries in ssh

    Sanyanov,

    devilishly smiles in rdp

    josefo,

    you monster

    Maragato, in Linux mint = best beginner distro
    @Maragato@eslemmy.es avatar

    Ubuntu, Mint, openSUSE.

    Rolive, in Linux mint = best beginner distro

    So Mint is Ubuntu based right? If Ubuntu screws up even more doesn’t that affect Mint as well?

    RmDebArc_5,
    @RmDebArc_5@lemmy.ml avatar

    Mint removes everything that makes Ubuntu bad and they have a version with the same features but Debian based and because Ubuntu is pushing snaps so much they have been thinking of making LMDE (Linux Mint Debian edition) the new default

    Rolive,

    That would convince me to move, probably. Arch isn’t bad but it’s too much hassle to set it up and even then I might have left security gaps open.

    ExplodeyWolf,

    Endeavour is fun 😉

    John,

    Since there is ‘archinstall’ setting up arch is really straight forward. Just Boot from stick, type archinstall and fill up all points, done.

    Rolive,

    Yeah true. I went through the arch process to learn about Linux though so it was worth it in the end but I still have no clue about selinux, apparmor etc that are shipped by default in other distros. Also the need for firewalls/antivirus which isn’t really an issue in Linux but still.

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