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pewpew, in linux users installing a web browser
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It happened to me and I felt stupid

rainerloeten, in Never again
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Speaks to the fact that we apparently need better and new alternatives or make current tools easier to use.

Certain aspects of discord seem to resonate with people (unfortunately…).

Man pages are great as mentioned, but maybe not as accessible to some people. Are there tools to generate more convenient resources (e.g. wikis) from that? Similar to how generating technical documentations from (structured) code comments.

EuroNutellaMan,
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I mean, tldr exists but not for troubleshooting.

I agree with the point you make, we definitely need a more unified and better place for this.

callyral, in Never again
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Documentation is different from technical support and neither should be done on Discord.

cybersandwich,

Discord could be a decent place for technical support, the way irc used to be used, but unless it’s super active with knowledgeable, helpful people, forums/GitHub discussions and other asynchronous comms channels make way more sense.

Otherwise it’s like shouting into the void and the signal to noise ratio on my discord channels is really low.

Plus with forums and discussion boards they can be stickied and indexed to be searched. So the next time someone has that error message they can pull up that exact discussion.

A_Random_Idiot,

Discord is not a place for technical support or documentation, or anything important, ever.

Search engines can not index discord.

archive can not archive discord.

Everything thats in discord, is in its own isolated bubble, that will disappear from history and time should the discord ever shut down, and even if its still up, its not findable by anyone searching for the problem.

Discord fucking sucks for anything but random bullshiting with friends over games.

merdaverse,

This. There are so many OSS projects that are over-reliant on Discord and it will bite them in the ass in a few years.

A_Random_Idiot,

and so many people are already searching for solutions to problems and cant find them, because they are locked away on discord.

I fucking hate it.

and its only gonna get worse with the years to come, as more data is centralized in discord and locked forever away from search engines, or worse, lost with the discord gets deleted or if the company goes under.

and no ones saying to not have a discord. Just use it for what its meant to be used as. Social interaction. And stop using it for what it very obviously isnt, which is a information repository.

as annoying as havin all the answers on reddit was, at least they popped up in a search engine so you could find an answer to what your problems were.

dan, (edited )
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I can’t wait until Discord have to start charging for features that are currently free (since they have to be profitable eventually), projects using it freak out about it, and end up switching to a different closed-source hosted system that’ll do the same thing years later. It already happened with OSS projects using Slack that migrated to Discord. People just don’t learn from the past.

IndustryStandard, in Some heroes don't wear capes

Why aren’t these drivers installed by default yet

0x4E4F,

They’re still waiting to be mainstreamed into the kernel. The process of integrating drivers into the kernel is complicated. Coding practices of the coder that wrote the driver play a large part in that. Buggy or badly written code will not get accepted. Not all of these drivers have the code quality that is required in order to be merged with the kernel.

bitwolf, in Never again

It’s not my favorite option. But at least use Discourse.

dan,
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Any of the modern forum systems (Discourse, Flarum, NodeBB) is fine as long as it works. Previous-gen forum systems (SMF, phpBB, MyBB, Vanilla, etc) are fine too.

may_nya, in linux users installing a web browser

happened to the most of us

FiskFisk33, in Never again

If it’s not search indexable it can go eat dirt

Dra, in Never again

A discord server with absurd amounts of over emphasised text, making nothing stand out, filled with emojis and broken up into different messages and sections at the exactly worst places for legibility.

No messages are answered in any channel, and you get amazing sense of all of the technology we have to communicate but zero ability to use it.

randon31415, in Never again

How to install:

Step 1: git clone website

Step 2: run dependency install script

Step 2 again: Ha, ha, just kidding, that would be to straight forward. Please install this dependency installer program that only this and two other projects use. Pip grep panda cholotte poetry bash docker numpty anaconda jupternotebook alacazam. Oh, you don’t have it? Well, I’m sure the project page will tell you how to install it and add it to path!

Step 3: Run " program name" and … “insanely detailed description of what to do once the program opens”

Step 3 again: When you run it, get error “k*args passed null into program, so eat shit you can’t fix this”

Step 4: Go to git hub issue page and see people have been complaining about this error for 6 months, but it was working back then when it’s 12 dependency hadn’t been updated yet. No fix incoming since the programmer was a chineese grad student that graduated 6 months ago and stopped working on the code.

mariluu, (edited )
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YUP that’s so relatable especially with ai-related projects because theyre all on python

dan,
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This is why I like Docker. It’s basically “works on my machine” as a service.

Similarly, I’m starting to really like dev containers. They’re Docker containers with all the required dev tools already installed inside, and a config so that VS Code knows how to spin up a new container when you want to do dev work on the project. They use VS Code remoting - a VS Code server runs in the container and the regular VS Code desktop app connects to it.

I was recently dealing with a project that has some Ruby dev tools and it was 100x easier to deal with since they were using dev containers.

Tenthrow,
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Well now I need to learn all about this.

Nikki, in Never again
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using discord for documentation is like using excel for a database

dan,
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It’s way worse. At least Excel lets you do database-like stuff. Discord is unusable for long-form posts or any info you want to keep long term.

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