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mesamunefire, in alias 2024='echo "YEAR OF THE DESKTOP"'

I remember when xp was not supported and…people kept using it. Security bugs and all. Most people don’t really think about the os, they think about the programs they are using.

ICastFist,
@ICastFist@programming.dev avatar

Shout out to ReactOS, who aims to be 100% compatible with Windows stuff. Too bad that they’re only likely to get there by 2050 :(

AnUnusualRelic,
@AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world avatar

But when you’ll be looking for XP compatibility in 2050, they’re going to be the only game in town.

thezeesystem, in alias 2024='echo "YEAR OF THE DESKTOP"'

Why I don’t switch to Linux as my main. The video games and mod managers don’t work well on it.

If given the ability and choice too I would use Linux 10000% but not even proton can work on everything that is only for Windows.

I literally have no choice tbh as I “acquire” games I can’t afford and it’s often to hard to figure out how to install them on Linux.

I hate windows with a passion but capatilism and monopolies force me to use it.

MrBubbles96,

In my experience, 90% of games work on Linux just by using proton. I’ve even had some of my GoG games that just absolutely did not work on modern Windows just straight up be “install and click play” on Linux via just Wine or by using Proton. The 10% that don’t are multiplayer games with heavy anticheats–which, unfortuenatly are what a lot of people play. Some of them already work (Apex, Dead by Daylight, Halo) some are getting worked on (Genshin–tho there IS a way to play it on Linux, at the risk of a ban, a buncha easy-anticheat games like Hunt: Showdown, etc) and some have just plain said a Linux version is out of the cards (Fortnite, Destiny 2 AFAIK).

Modding games also works fine on Linux, but there’s a bit of a catch: it’s not as simple as installing MO2 and Vortex (you CAN install both via Lutris or Steamtinker, but I’ve personally never gotten either to work like that so i can’t say how well it does or doesn’t), you kinda have to play around and see what works. I was able to mod Skyrim, Oblivion, Fallout New Vegas, and Morrowind exactly as i do on Windows (the former three using Rockerbacon’s Mod Organizer 2 script, the last one manually), Fallout 4 manually (haven’t tried the script since i don’t really play FO4, tho I’m sure it works), Pathfinder WOTR via using it’s mod manager in Proton, using Steam Workshop if a game supports it, and using Mod Managers for Linux when they’re available, like Baldur’s Gate 3’s LAMP. Yeah, it’s a hassle depending on the game. For me, it’s fine because I accepted long ago that there would be some annoyances to Linux, and as long as there isn’t any native mod managers built specifically for Linux and we’re stuck jury rigging mod managers made for Windows, modding will be one of those annoyances. But my tolerance is not everyone’s tolerance and I completely understand if people are put off by this and just stick to Windows for modded games.

BURN,

Unfortunately that 10% of games that don’t work are extremely popular and do happen to be what I’d consider a majority of pc gamers are playing

MrBubbles96,

Oh, I’m not disputing that a large chunk of gamers play games that aren’t playable on Linux yet (tho i disagree with the claim that the majority of PC gamers play those). I’ve always said “it depends on what you like to play” when it comes to gaming on Linux and I’ll stand by that until/if that stops being the case. My first point still stands tho:

The unplayable ones are a drop in the bucket. That’s a straight up fact. And some, if not most of the unplayables are getting patched to work on Linux sooner or later (save for Fortnite. Why do I pick on that one specifically? 1) I personally dislike it and Epic, but more importantly, 2) Epic’s CEO straight up shot the idea of Linux compatability down…even tho there’s nothing really stopping them from enabling Easy Anticheat on their side and making it work vs say, making something like Battle Eye Anticheat play nice with Linux).

BURN,

If you look at the steam charts, the big FPS games pretty much dominate. I’d argue that does mean the majority are playing at least 1 of the incompatible games at least somewhat casually or with friends.

Most of the unplayables aren’t going to be Linux compatible. Most have come out and explicitly said so. If it hasn’t enabled Linux support by now, I’d expect it to never come.

EAC being enabled for Linux brings the security of the whole system down, which is why there’s resistance to it. You’re not able to cover nearly as much, so cheaters have exponentially more attack surface for a very minimal gain of players.

MrBubbles96,

Strange, last I checked most of the top played games were also Linux compatible. Then again, the most played titles change frequently, so I’ve no doubt at least a couple of non-Linux compatible games make it up there depending on several factors like update/DLC resurrance and such.

Really? I’ve heard the opposite, but maybe their stances have changed and i just didn’t keep up with em or i was misinformed to begin with. Regardless, I have seen a couple of multiplayer games go from broken/not working at all to actually launching and being playable (as an example Naraka: Bladepoint. It also took Dead by Daylight forever to be playable on Linux, but it is now. I believe Apex was the same). Some aren’t perfect yet, but they work instead of stopping at the title screen–if even that. Sure, not all of incompatible games are gonna make it to Linux for one reason or another, but they are being brought in–albiet, i admit It’s slow as hell but hey, s’long as more people get to play what they want on the OS they choose to use at the end of the day–at least from what I’m seeing. Could be very wrong and am willing to admit so if shown otherwise.

Unfortunate, but true that.

Hexarei,
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Proton may not be perfect but it works for the vast majority of games at this point. And most mod managers can also run through Lutris, curious to hear which ones you’ve tried that didn’t work

ekky43, (edited )

Not even Windows can run all Windows games, so that’s kind of a hard criteria for Linux to achieve.

fuckwit_mcbumcrumble,

Windows will run a modern windows game with a lot less fiddling than Linux with wine and proton.

Most people aren’t spending a lot of time playing 20 year old games on windows 11.

ares35,
@ares35@kbin.social avatar

i have several old systems for older games, going all the way back to a good ol' celeron 300a.

al177, in Distros bad

Slackware is the 50 year old percolator in the break room of the DMV.

umbrella, in Just because it’s better than windows doesn’t make it good
@umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

I don’t mind MacOS

dudinax, in Just because it’s better than windows doesn’t make it good

MacOS is way worse than Windows.

SRo,

Yep

tubaruco,

mac is way more new user friendly and polished though

aidan,

Depriving the user of information is helpful until you hide information they want.

ColdWater,
@ColdWater@lemmy.ca avatar

How’s MacOS user friendly?

tubaruco,

cant do anything thatll mess everything up (unless you really know what youre doing)

Stumblinbear,
@Stumblinbear@pawb.social avatar

It’s more user friendly in a thousand minor ways, such as installing programs, which makes it much more user friendly overall. At least MacOS has a consistent UI that doesn’t massively change every single update

dudinax,

The primary goal of MacOS is to prevent your eight-year-old from messing it up too much.

9point6, in They caught us

bb showed us what the terminal can really do

Pantherina, in Just because it’s better than windows doesn’t make it good

Had to show a person today how to install Nextcloud. Literally Nextcloud and we couldnt find a way to move to the home folder. Its somewhere in a menu but damn macos is fucking weird, like a toy.

I always thought it was like “the apple unix” or “the better ios which doesnt suck” but actually it seems just as locked down and childish like a toy.

People are used to that?? Damn we are fucked

CapeWearingAeroplane, (edited )

cd ~/ && open .

idk how hard or unintuitive that is?

Pok,

Are you saying you couldn’t get the home folder to open? Or you couldn’t locate the folder?

Isn’t it just the in the shortcut pane, the username with the picture of a house? To you try to open the ‘go’ menu and select ‘home’?

Pantherina,

Yes Nextcloud (for some reason) can put itself in the shortcut pane, but for some damn child-proofing reason the home folder is not there??

RaoulDook,

The Home folder is there, but you just didn’t know how to find it. What you experienced was “not knowing what you’re doing” which just means you needed to learn how to use what you were trying to use.

Pantherina,

Nah, its the OS actively hiding stuff. Just like windows and Android forcing you to use their folder structure.

I may be a bit linuxy here, but thats literally what my dad told me, and on Windows it makes more sense, to put everything in the main directory and use CAPITALS for folders only so you see they are yours.

For sure one could argue macos is just different and you can use that top menu, but what are the shortcut buttons there for? Its a decision and it felt veeeery weird. Even though it may be fixable

RmDebArc_5,
@RmDebArc_5@lemmy.ml avatar

As Richard Stallman said: Steve Jobs created a cage and made it so shiny that millions of people want to be trapped in it (From memory so not exact, just search Richard Stallman Apple fanboys are fools)

Semi-Hemi-Demigod,
@Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social avatar

MacOS gets much more fluid to use when you memorize the keyboard commands. Command+Shift+G in the Finder brings up a menu where you can type any path you want, including ~

majestictechie, in How do I exit vim?

Don’t save: :q!Save: :x

synae,
@synae@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

I like :cq for if I want to cancel my git commit message (or similar)

user224,
@user224@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Additionally for save and exit: :wq (read as write and quit) or ZZ (without colon).

palordrolap,

Dude's in bed. ZZ is clearly the superior choice for the sleepy vi user.

dukk,

Personally prefer :xprobably because it’s a little more ergonomic, as Z is all the way in the corner (QWERTY), and is the same key twice, while : and x are in two different spots, and can therefore be hit faster.

I know, it’s like millisecond differences, but, hey, I’m a vim user.

erev,
@erev@lemmy.world avatar

:x will save and exit. The difference between :x and :wq is that the latter will always write to the buffer, while the former will only do so if theres a change.

user224,
@user224@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Sup. And ZZ is like :x, write only if change was made.

kubica, in So sad when it happens
@kubica@kbin.social avatar

I'm paying the tech debt of not switching sooner.

Damage, in Linux community be like ...

Dead horse

_cnt0,
manefraim, (edited ) in Come to the Linux side of the force

The amount of woosh in this thread. Hold onto you’re hats, everyone.

cosmicrookie,
@cosmicrookie@lemmy.world avatar

Your right

ogoflowgo,

*rite

scottywh, in Linux mint = best beginner distro

Mint with Maté gets no love but it’s so fucking great.

TwoBeeSan,

Have not tried a mate based de yet. Gonna try this out after kde fedora.

Been struggling to find a distro with good multi monitor multi aspect ratio setup without it fucking up when one is turned off.

What sets mate apart in your opinion?

scottywh,

I guess I just think that it’s one of the easiest desktop environments for a transitioning Windows user to get used to despite the fact that I’ve personally used Linux for over 25 years starting with old school Red Hat 5 command line.

It doesn’t default to dark themes like many DEs do lately…

There’s other things … Desktop shortcut naming… idk

d_k_bo, in Text editor war

I prefer micro.

ichmagrum,

so intuitive!

RoyaltyInTraining,
@RoyaltyInTraining@lemmy.world avatar

Micro gang!

Rustmilian, (edited ) in I am THIS close to joining the Chromium monopoly gang
@Rustmilian@lemmy.world avatar

Have you tried firefox-nightly?
Also, chat.mozilla.org

grue,

Firefox nightie? What, did new merch just drop?

Sonotsugipaa, (edited )
@Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I wasn’t planning on installing another browser (ignore the post’s title), and joining a Matrix chat for technical help is the last thing I would do due to me being socially awkward…

I appreciate the advice though

ryannathans,

My brother it’s a matrix chat not a public speaking event

azurefirefly, in If linux distributions were tools.
@azurefirefly@lemmy.basedcount.com avatar

Debian instead of ubuntu for the multitool

XEAL, (edited )

Ok, but the multitool must have a steeper learning curve and less GUIs

Pantherina,

Agree

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