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kittenzrulz123, in alias 2024='echo "YEAR OF THE DESKTOP"'

Most people will install Windows 11, complain about it, complain about the lack of Windows alternatives, then get offended and spam downvote anyone who mentions an alternative.

juipeltje,
@juipeltje@lemmy.world avatar

This pretty much sums up the pcmasterrace community and i ended up leaving because of it.

at_an_angle,

I’m trying to learn Linux, got Cinnamon to dip my toes into, and love it.

And being someone who is computer literate, finding a distro that was similar to windows to learn with was a pain. With all the infighting and superiority complexs on forums, the absolute number of variations of distros, combined with the avalanche of information you need to digest just to get a basic understanding…

Yeah, I get why people will stick to Windows and ignore free/better alternatives, all while complaining. It’s just not worth it to a vast majority of users.

Adramis,

Yeah…this is going to be a super unpopular opinion, but there needs to be a designated distro for new users who aren’t sure what to go with. If someone asks “What distro should I-” the rest doesn’t matter. We just agree on one distro and that’s it. Once they have a reason to look for another distro, they’ll have the knowledge to find it themselves.

You have to make the first step easy.

pathief,
@pathief@lemmy.world avatar

Linux Mint should be the default answer for newbies. Tech savvy users can probably find “the right distro” themselves.

user224,
@user224@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

But not only for newbies, just to add.

callyral,
@callyral@pawb.social avatar

Yeah, I used Linux Mint when I started using Linux in 2021, and I would definitely still use it if I didn’t prefer rolling release.

vic_rattlehead,

What does rolling release get a user if they’re not tinkering with hardware all the time?

callyral,
@callyral@pawb.social avatar

To me? I use a laptop and don’t really tinker with my hardware at all, the benefits for me is I get the latest-ish versions of software (including user applications), and there isn’t this big jump between new versions

ares35,
@ares35@kbin.social avatar

that 'designated distro' for newcomers used to be ubuntu. probably still is. as much as i'd want to say mint or some other variant of ubuntu or debian that i happen to like.. 'one man shows' and distros with very small teams aren't what a new user should be going with. there's a reason why so many base off ubuntu. it's big. it's solid. and it just works.

Adramis,

Ubuntu was always the answer I gave, but it feels like they’ve fallen out of favor with the whole snap debacle.

ChunkMcHorkle,
@ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world avatar

As a technically literate person who is mostly new to Linux, Snaps along with Canonical’s corporate behavior was initially a dealbreaker for me.

Except now I’m on Zorin (a Ubuntu fork) and find I can install flatpak, apt, etc as well, so I’m not wholly opposed to it anymore.

Still think they’re assholes for taking initial steps in a paywall direction, though, not to mention doing the FOSS community that way.

Chakravanti,

Don’t act this is some social parasite symptom. I do that shit in the real world and get the same response. Or rather lackthereof.

paintbucketholder,

Most people will buy a computer, that computer will have Windows 11 on it, they’ll start using that computer and the pre-installed OS that came with it, and maybe, occasionally, they will complain that “this is different now” and that “they always change things, it’s so annoying” and that will be the end of it.

If you’re talking about people who install or even just upgrade the OS on their computer by themselves, are aware of such a concept as “alternative operating systems,” engage in any kind of conversation about operating systems on social media, and then care enough about the topic to downvote people who disagree with them on purely ideological grounds, you’re already talking about a tiny, tiny minority of computer users.

kittenzrulz123,

As tech illiterate as people are they also love complaining. Mostly complaining that Microsoft has a monopoly over computing. They generally don’t know what an OS is as you said but will still complain. Of course since they don’t know much telling them anything will get them offended as they feel that their intelligence was questioned.

Schmeckinger,

I have never see a tech illiterate person complain that Microsoft has a monopoly over computing.

spikespaz,

My grandma thought it was a duopoly until I explained that clouds are made of penguins.

Surp, in The most secure OS named windows
@Surp@lemmy.world avatar

You laugh but windows defender is awesome. People give windows shit but the reason it’s attacked the most is because of it’s market share being above and beyond leaps and bounds sun vs tiny fleck of dust in space os market shares that Linux and Mac os have. No one’s wasting time hacking the tiny stuff as much just because its a numbers game. Guarenfuckingtee you if Linux was number one market share OS it would be getting attacked way more often than any other OS as well. Dont kid yourselves.

pigup,

Hey cut it out we’re trying to circle jerk here

RmDebArc_5, (edited )
@RmDebArc_5@lemmy.ml avatar

macOS and Linux have additional security features at a system level, on Linux most software comes through controlled repositories or sandboxed flatpaks. There are also tons of multi million dollar companies that constantly try to find and fix kernel level vulnerabilities and a distro like Debian, which is very popular for servers, has had less major vulnerabilities than windows 7 throughout its entire lifecycle and Debian exists for other 30 years. So I’d say Linux is would have a few less (different) attacks

Cowbee, in Distros bad

This meme is fake! Espresso only takes 15 minutes from start to end! At least, if you cut out preheating the machine…

cries

YodaDaCoda,
@YodaDaCoda@sh.itjust.works avatar

I worked out that I can better/ more quickly preheat my portafilter using the water from the kettle for the wife’s instant coffee.

Cowbee,

Giga brain Chad over here! Nah, my partner and I wake up at different times, and she doesn’t even like coffee in the first place. I usually start preheating my machine before taking a shower in the morning, and that gives enough time for my flair to preheat. All I need to do is manually grind, start the kettle, and do my puck prep, then good to go!

It’s honestly a comfy ritual, plus you get to pull a great turbo shot every morning for pennies compared to even a Starbucks, for far better quality. Does it “save” money? No, but it’s a hobby I love!

qprimed,

everyone needs a good vice hobby.

Jorgelino, in alias 2024='echo "YEAR OF THE DESKTOP"'

Lose*

Kerb, (edited ) in alias 2024='echo "YEAR OF THE DESKTOP"'
@Kerb@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

oh you think so?
i’ll tell you, the saying:

echo $(date -d “$(date +%Y) + 1 year” +%Y) will be the year of the linux desktop

has never been wrong

TigrisMorte,

Yes, but their desktop is their phone.

sv1sjp, in alias 2024='echo "YEAR OF THE DESKTOP"'
@sv1sjp@lemmy.world avatar

Many people and even businesses are still running Windows XP and Windows 7 and we are still talking about security updates on Windows 10?😂 People will never take their security seriously if they don’t lose a lot of money at first…

AceFuzzLord,

A big problem is that there are hospitals and medical facilities using old versions of windows for reasons like the cost of upgrading all their computers or more importantly legacy software that they have to use just simply not working on more recent versions for various reasons. As much as having an up to date OS is important for safety, it’s just not feasible in some areas and it’s terrifying.

h3ndrik, in alias 2024='echo "YEAR OF THE DESKTOP"'

What’s the pun?

auf, in alias 2024='echo "YEAR OF THE DESKTOP"'

People with money will buy redhat idk

ipsirc, in ***buntu
@ipsirc@lemmy.ml avatar

…and be userfriendly and must be lightweight on my brand new 32core ryzen.

nitefox, in alias 2024='echo "YEAR OF THE DESKTOP"'

Why would they need money? Linux based OSes are both free and much lighter than Windows

everett,

The meme, which wasn’t well-written, is suggesting that the cost savings of switching to Linux isn’t significant to most people. It’s saying

Most people

  • don’t care enough
  • have enough money

rather than

Most people don’t

  • care enough
  • have enough money
NumbersCanBeFun, (edited ) in ***buntu
@NumbersCanBeFun@kbin.social avatar

I get it but I picked Mint not only for my recommendation to new users but the platform I advocate the most for on my YouTube channel. For anyone who isn’t computer savvy there isn’t a more straightforward and easy to use distro. If we want to grow the Linux community we have to be open to users with extremely limited knowledge regarding computing in general.

This does mean hand holding people through a setup even if there is a guide available. That’s my goal with my channel. To spread FOSS awareness and to show people how easy it is to make the switch to an overall better computer experience.

ILikeBoobies,

What makes it more user friendly than anything else?

NumbersCanBeFun,
@NumbersCanBeFun@kbin.social avatar

Linux Mint is like the most stable Windows 10 out there. It’s easy to download new software, it’s GUI is extremely customizable and it has a “it just works” magic to it I can’t really explain. Every issue I’ve encountered was solvable albeit after lengthy reading.

If you’re brand new to Linux you can download it to a USB, boot to it from bios (disable secure boot if needed) and test it out without installing it. I’d say give it a shot if you got some free time and you’re curious.

ILikeBoobies,

That doesn’t sound any different than any other distro I’ve tried

NumbersCanBeFun, (edited )
@NumbersCanBeFun@kbin.social avatar

That’s fair. It’s an out of the box, easy to understand distro. The fact you would get a user to even consider trying Linux is a huge ask. Making it as straight forward as possible is extremely important for a user experiencing Linux for the very first time.

If they get hung up on this process they will quit and go back to windows because they are afraid of something they don’t quite understand yet. Linux Mint is the right solution because of its ease of setup, ease of use and deployment of familiar elements Windows users will understand even if they are labeled slightly different.

AnUnusualRelic, in They caught us
@AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world avatar

The purpose of Unix was to be user friendly. And it is. You haven’t seen what it replaced.

Also friendliness doesn’t require a Fisher Price interface.

ILikeBoobies,

You should amend

You haven’t seen what it replaced

With

You aren’t used to it

AnUnusualRelic,
@AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world avatar

Unix was meant to be much friendlier than the mainframe systems that wer prevalent at the time and which wer horrible to use without a lot of training (or even with it). By contrast, Unix commands were simple, self documenting. Anyone could use it.

ILikeBoobies,

I’m aware but it’s not unfriendly today

People are just used to DOS

AnUnusualRelic, (edited )
@AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world avatar

Well, today it’s arguably more advanced, interface wise, than the other systems since they keep copying stuff from the X11 front ends.

All the current GUIs are basically the same Once you’ve seen a couple WIMP interfaces, you’ve seen them all.

TiredInsomniac,

Let me say that I really like “Fisher Price interface”

InternetCitizen2,

Its called xp

01189998819991197253,
@01189998819991197253@infosec.pub avatar

This genuinely made me laugh hahaha

BlueSquid0741,

When I first saw XP was when I stopped using windows. So bad.

Anti_Face_Weapon, in Distros bad

I’m really sad there isn’t a French press on here. That’s what I use and I was hoping to discover what my coffee distro is :-(

SpaceCadet,
@SpaceCadet@feddit.nl avatar

I’m really sad there isn’t a French press on here

Nor a moka pot, which is my preferred way.

dejected_warp_core,

Seeing as how the grounds are still sitting in the finished product, I’m going to say BSD but you don’t clear out the ports tree.

Anti_Face_Weapon,

I’m not a BSD guy, but I like your analogy

keefshape,

As a French press user, I also opt for easier routes to Arch (EndeavourOS), and my head canon says so do we all.

aniki,

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  • keefshape,

    Still scarred from my first Arch introduction years ago, I guess. Before it did.

    Anti_Face_Weapon,

    It has a step-by-step guide on the wiki lol

    keefshape,

    Yup, those scars.

    Agent641, in Distros bad

    Mint linux is a cup of tea.

    JoeKis,

    *Mint tea precisely

    callyral, in How do I exit vim?
    @callyral@pawb.social avatar

    Wait, has he entered Vim in his mind??

    fl42v, (edited )

    That’s what everyone who starts learning it does. Then you.jjjj websites or :wq documents, and eventually end up installing vim-like plugins for everything

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