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pip1, in So sad when it happens

But think of all the programs that don’t even exist on Windows:)

vaionko,

Not quite a program but I fricking love KRunner. And Kate and Dolphin, though available in Windows, don’t work as well.

boomzilla,

AFAIK the Same situation with KDE Connect which I couldn’t properly exist without. Also KRunner & Dolphin. Kate would be possible but hard AF.

Full on agree with KRunner. One of the MVP applications of KDE. So far none of the alternatives I tried on Windows 10 and MacOS come anywhere close to its power and elegance. Maybe Alfred which I tested years ago.

I could write 10 more paragraphs about why KRunner is one of the most advanced laucher/search/command application but I think everyone should experience it themselves. Best not to over-do it with the KRunner-plugins where an overwhelmingly long search result list could ruin your experience.

aes,

Foliate is hands down the best ebook reader

Andrew15_5,
@Andrew15_5@mander.xyz avatar

Okular is good enough for me. It has at least 3 dark modes and I can hide all the UI in non-fullscreen mode.

boomzilla,

Okular is the MPV of documents it seems. Regarding file-formats and UI. I only use it for PDF’s and I honestly had no clue it can read e-books and so much other formats. Even docx and odt with plugins. Also didn’t knew it has 3 dark-modes. Tyvm for your post.

Andrew15_5,
@Andrew15_5@mander.xyz avatar

BTW, I love mpv. It’s minimalistic, supports all necessary shortcuts and can be controlled via Lua script. As a scripter/keyboard-only user it’s perfect.

boomzilla,

Yeah it’s great. I use it for youtube and twitch and I don’t need more than the volume, mute, forward/backward and fullscreen keys to use it. Never touched Lua. Do you use it with MPV yourself?

Andrew15_5,
@Andrew15_5@mander.xyz avatar

Yes, for auto fullscreening, changing subtitles/audio, skipping some chapters etc.

lemmyingly,

WSL ;)

I quite like both OSs but mostly for different reasons.

ShinyRanger, in You have no power here

You guys are quick to forget that Wine (Wine Is Not an Emulator) is, in fact, not an emulator. Most windows ransomware will successfully encrypt your files if ran with wine.

RoyaltyInTraining,
@RoyaltyInTraining@lemmy.world avatar

That is why I always try to avoid installing Wine natively

Conman_Signor, in Can you install thid 25 year old program?
@Conman_Signor@lemmy.one avatar

Gonna be honest the only older game I had trouble on windows with was Dragon Age Origins. No matter what I did, it crashed out every time

FuglyDuck,
@FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

Dragon age is…. Old?

Origins was released in ‘09. So was windows 7.

Jolteon,

2009 was almost 15 years ago

v4ld1z,
@v4ld1z@lemmy.zip avatar

You take that back

MNByChoice,

Just a blink of the eye…

tryptaminev,

It is closer to the release of the first Doom than it is to today.

FuglyDuck, (edited )
@FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

Uhm. Doom was originally released in 1993. 30 years ago. Dragon age Origins was released in 2009. 14 years ago.

So…
Not quite. got a couple years before that’s true.

FWIW, the first game I beat was the OG legend of zelda. I was 7, it was my dad’s game and i wasn’t supposed to be playing it for some reason. I got caught when my dad was strugling on the puzzles in the water temple and I gave some helpful advice… (“We won’t tell mom about this. now where did you say I go?”)

the first PC game I got heavily into was Age of Empires, though, a lot of my friends played starcraft, and insisted it was better than AoE; so I played one game with them. (They were all so very patronizing… so I let them be patronizing and then turned my ally to hostile and carpet-nuked the entire map.) (yeah. I went back to AoE after that, lol.)

tryptaminev,

my bad. I had 1996 in my memory, but that was the first Quake.

FuglyDuck,
@FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

incidentally, I noticed that the doom comics were issued in '96 when I was double checking my facts. It’s maybe annoying that I’m old enough to remember sneaking a copy of it

Anafabula,
@Anafabula@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

I have seen multiple streamers have problems with it on Windows, but for me it works completely fine on Linux with PROTON_FORCE_LARGE_ADDRESS_AWARE=1 (even mods work).

There is a large address aware (LAA) patch for windows too that fixed it for one streamer, but you have to download a patched executable.

BuboScandiacus, in Just because it’s better than windows doesn’t make it good
@BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz avatar

MacOS is UNIX™

kratoz29, in Just because it’s better than windows doesn’t make it good
@kratoz29@lemm.ee avatar

What is wrong with the Mac? Is the only device that that makes me feel attached to Linux somehow.

jackoneill,

There’s nothing wrong with it if you like it. At work, our servers are windows and I hate them. IN my home lab, I have a couple of guinea pig windows servers to play with and my actual home stack run on various flavors of linux - mainly ubuntu and centos. My gaming rig is windows because i just want to play the game, not play learn how to make the game run. And my workstation that I sit in front of and work at every day is a Mac because at work my job is to fix other people’s shit, and I don’t want to have to fix my own workstation in the middle of a client’s fire like my old windows workstation did to me many a time. I also don’t want to have to learn weird ways to do basic tasks when I’m on the clock like I do with my linux laptop. Every OS has a way that is shines, and if your use case aligns don’t let anybody make you feel bad about it.

Titou,
@Titou@feddit.de avatar

Linux but perverted version

panicnow,

Well if you put it like that I just want it more…

sarmale, in It does Sound stupid

Brain.

Moshpirit, in Damn...
@Moshpirit@lemmy.world avatar

I would like to add: old as old Manjaro forum. There are many issues that seemed to be solved there but there is no way to get to it.

Samsy,

To my defence, I didnt know there are old and new. I dont use arch based distros anymore but searching an error, which could be on any distro, there are different kind of Websites which discuss the error. if I could sort them it would look like this:

  1. mailinglists (good described, but you know, you are fucked)
  2. arch wiki
  3. stack overflow
  4. reddit (solution got deleted)
  5. a clickbait guide (you realise your problem was dumb)
  6. arch forum (you read about people dumb like you, getting virtual killed)
  7. manjaro forum (try reinstall)
Exec,
@Exec@pawb.social avatar

I not too long ago ran into a kernel issue that was posted on the day I’ve set up my first arch install. Thus, the #1 result when searching for the bug was the arch forums and the issue was resolved about two weeks later.

Moshpirit,
@Moshpirit@lemmy.world avatar

Don’t worry, I didn’t even know it was your meme haha :)

Moshpirit, in It does Sound stupid
@Moshpirit@lemmy.world avatar

GNL is difficult to pronounce or longer if you spell it.

RmDebArc_5,
@RmDebArc_5@lemmy.ml avatar

And the mascot no longer works

BeardedGingerWonder,

What’s wrong with the penguin?

RmDebArc_5,
@RmDebArc_5@lemmy.ml avatar

The Gnu

catharso,
@catharso@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

GNULi

fakeman_pretendname, (edited )

Ginnel

Unfotunately, might not mean much to 99.925% of the world.

I’m not sure what the mascot would be. Perhaps a fence, dog poo, lager can or discarded mattress.

sxan, in How do I exit vim?
@sxan@midwest.social avatar

One great thing about this joke is a that I doubt there’s anyone left who doesn’t know how to exit vim.

jrbaconcheese,

I have no idea, but I know it’s awful

ArcaneSlime, (edited )

It’s really not that bad. [ESC] :wq Escape to exit input mode and enter command mode, then the command indicator : w for write and q for quit. To quit without writing force it with :q!. Done.

moonpiedumplings,

Was watching a twitch streamer learning linux, and chat convinced them to open vim for the first time. Not a single person gave the real answer of how to exit, all joke answers like “Power off,” and it was hilarious.

Aceticon, (edited )

Well, depending on how long one is trying to exit Vim and hence the level of frustration, exiting Vim might involve the use of a sledgehammer…

extant, (edited ) in On another partition, right?

And if you do try and dual boot in windows you get this.

https://i.redd.it/utj02yi1akb61.jpg

MonsiuerPatEBrown, in Can you install thid 25 year old program?

Which package manager would you like to use today ?
> _

Spider89,

apt

ColdWater, (edited )
@ColdWater@lemmy.ca avatar

Ahh… Winget?

neonred,

that’d be dpkg, but I agree

DmMacniel,

yum

corsicanguppy,

Apt is a good call. It predates yum, which itself predates yumv2-oops-dnf, and that beautiful porting gift from the Brazilian folks is still working hard at RPM management faster and more consistently than yum v1/v2 ever will.

Try PCLinuxOS (conectiva’s great-grandchild) - its template creation is horrible as they’ve forgotten how to anaconda, but otherwise it’s amazing.

chuck, in On another partition, right?
Oisteink, in The most secure OS named windows

Looking at Kenny most Linux users seems to be clueless fanboys

AtmaJnana,

I think they’re probably just young and enthusiastic. I was like that about linux 20 years ago when I had the energy for it.

recapitated,

I would argue most Linux users have no clue they’re Linux users.

neshura, (edited )
@neshura@bookwormstory.social avatar

Depends on how you categorize “Linux” User, if you include anything running a Linux Kernel as “Linux” then the vast majority have no clue they’re using Linux.

ChiefSinner, in You have no power here

I think the majority of exploits in metasploit are for Linux, but could be wrong.

franklin, in Just because it’s better than windows doesn’t make it good
@franklin@lemmy.world avatar

I mean Mac OS has its place. There’s a reason so many music producers and coders choose that OS. It’s a rock solid stable approach for those use cases.

That being said, personally I would always prefer Linux but that’s mostly because I don’t do those things.

I don’t even particularly hate windows, I just like PopOS better

aidan, (edited )

Genuine question, how is MacOS better for coders? I think those that do usually choose it because they’re used to it or their company offered either a bulky ThinkPad or a Mac and they wanted something thin and light.

Everytime I see tutorials for setting up or building something there will be a simple Linux install command, downloading a zip for windows (or if you’re lucky you can find it on Choco), and then there will be the multiparagraph homebrew setup.

Pipoca,

I don’t really think it’s better. They’re fine for coding.

They’re basically the corporate default because they’re easier for companies to buy and remotely administer, they’ve got good VPN software, good resale value, etc.

Stumblinbear,
@Stumblinbear@pawb.social avatar

They’re significantly better than windows, and you could make an argument on the stability front compared to Linux

franklin,
@franklin@lemmy.world avatar

Exactly this. I was about to answer the question and realize you pretty much already had. Thanks very much.

custard_swollower,

Macs are pretty solid for coding. You don’t need to tinker with them, most of the time stuff just works. On the other hand, I spent lots of time to make sure stuff just works well on my Dell or ThinkPad with Ubuntu or pop.

For software, I’ve found that some software doesn’t give you much help if you get into problems on Linux.

And there is always something with Linux that doesn’t work for me. Like my Dell laptop with pop!os doesn’t charge over usb-C from Dell monitor (it worked on windows). Touchscreen doesn’t always work after waking up. I had ThinkPad with awful fan control on linux and hibernation issues. I had issues with scaling with external screens.

adrian783,

yeah it’s mostly because of the official support that reduces a lot of faffing about. I don’t wanna be a nix guru I just want to search stackoveflow and paste in commands when I have issues.

BURN,

Windows is a nightmare for development. Linux is generally not an option, so a UNIX based system is still easier than windows

aidan,

For C++/C I used to agree, but now with WSL it’s easy.

BURN,

My problems come with Java (versioning is a pain), JavaScript, Node, etc

C/C++ is probably the second easiest after C#

aidan,

Node really? nvm makes it very easy, or using choco

BURN,

Despite trying at least 6 times, I’ve never been able to successfully start a node project on windows. No such problems on Linux or Mac.

I tend to do my dev work at home with an Ubuntu server VM and ssh into it from my windows desktop now. Find that it’s the best of both worlds.

aidan,

Despite trying at least 6 times, I’ve never been able to successfully start a node project on windows.

Huh fair, for me that’s cmake projects on Windows.

with an Ubuntu server VM and ssh into it from my windows desktop now.

That’s just WSL 💀

BURN,

WSL wasn’t a thing when I started with that, and it still doesn’t do everything I want it to, so I much prefer to not use WSL at all and instead manually manage the VM.

There’s nothing wrong with the WSL approach, it’s just not one I like

Stumblinbear,
@Stumblinbear@pawb.social avatar

Ah yes, I love WSL deciding to consume 12 of my 16gb of memory

aidan,

That’s a fair complaint

jadedwench,

I code daily on mine, by choice. I also have no issue coding on Linux and will happily spend all day in a CLI. Homebrew is just as easy as using apt or what have you, at least in my personal experience.

It isn’t always perfect.There was a bit of head scratching over shared libraries one time, until I figured out what stupidity I had to do to make Apple happy, but that is the only notable thing I can remember.

However, coding on Windows can be super painful depending on the language, especially with all of the backwards paths. The only coding work I enjoy doing on Windows is C#. Worst case WSL2 is around when I need some sanity.

No matter what, I have any of them available to me and the battery life on a MacBook Air is amazing. The corporate laptop is actually a decent machine and the size and weight is pretty good, especially considering the monstrous bricks the previous models were. Mobile workstation woes I guess. The most amusing part is AutoCAD 2024 running smoothly on the Mac. I never knew it could be that snappy.

thehatfox,
@thehatfox@lemmy.world avatar

macOS offers a lot of stability, it’s reliable, predictable, boring even. It works out of the box and stays that way, it survives upgrades, and rarely crashes.

The release cycle is steady, and changes are generally gradual and incremental. Mac users don’t usually have to worry about a new release breaking their system or their workflow because a developer wants to reinvent the wheel or a UI designer wants to make their mark. The only big shifts have been processor transitions.

The Mac ecosystem also allows users to have a foot in both the proprietary and open source ecosystems on a single platform. Being able to run, say, web development environments and Adobe CS for example, can be a lot easier than farting around with Wine or WSL.

Granted, there’s plenty of downsides to the Mac as well, but the platform definitely has merits.

pimeys,

I’m a dev and I mainly see issues with removed… Every update breaks some tools the cli tools are ancient, homebrew is slow as hell and breaks quite often, docker is really slow and costs money if you don’t know how to avoid that, it’s very expensive to get to a certain amount of RAM that costs nothing on PC and so on.

max,

Docker costs money? What?

pimeys, (edited )

The docker desktop does. It is very tricky to install docker without it on the Mac.

You can try installing it on GitHub actions for your CI runs with the Mac runner. It can be done, but takes forever, is hacky and breaks very often.

Orygin,

Use colima ;)

flop_leash_973,

For my simple local container needs I switched to Podman for that reason. Work gave me a Macbook Pro among my other systems I am wanted to use it as a daily driver to learn the platform better.

pimeys,

I use podman on NixOS. It’s cool, but be warned there are subtle and less subtle differences.

datavoid, (edited )

I wonder what highly offensive word you wrote in the first line, the only thing I know for sure is that it was clearly filled with misogynistic hate (thanks Lemmy.ml!)

It’s baffling to me that the devs would choose to cripple their own instance. I have not once seen someone use a blocked word in the context where it would be harmful - it is literally always just confusing and annoying.

pimeys,

It is just me wanting to filter 🍎 completely from the instance, so all mentions to 🍎 products get redacted. That is kind of an insider joke due to that company being so prevalent in internet forums such as HN or Reddit. At least in my own instance all mentions of removed are hidden.

datavoid,

Haha interesting, that was absolutely not what I expected. Lemmy.ml bans words like “female dog” and “woman who has sex for money”, so I assumed it was something along those lines since that’s the instance I’m on.

Yours is funny, but also insanely confusing

AtmaJnana,

Homebrew recently broke for me permanently on a macbook because it was made in 2013 and is now blocked from upgrading, so xcode no longer can be upgraded…Which means lots of other shit also no longer works. Including homebrew. Soon have to put a distro on it, I guess.

projectsquared,

Open core legacy patcher has kept my 2012 MBP able to run modern versions of macos (currently on latest update to Monterey). No stability issues, but AirDrop is flakey and I am no longer able to run anything in a VM using Apple’s hypervisor. It runs well; might be worth looking into for your use case.

CapeWearingAeroplane,

I was starting to get issues with a macbook from 2012 (specifically homebrew / xcode) when I upgraded. I’m going to be honest: Having a powerhouse of a machine for 10 years before it becomes obsolete, I’m not going to complain for one second. Got myself a new macbook, and it runs like the wind. Works seamlessly with all the tools I need in an environment where we rely on gfortran / gcc, and a lot of my coworkers use Linux.

To be fair: Part of the reason I waited for so long before upgrading was that I was waiting for them to ditch the butterfly keyboard / touchbar, and get some ports back into the machine. Once they did that I was sold. My only issue with macbooks would be the absurd price for an adequate amount of RAM, but as far as having a good computer, once it’s paid for it’s fantastic.

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