savvywolf,
@savvywolf@pawb.social avatar

You know, I do wonder how many of these statistics are influenced by Linux users tendancy to use adblockers and block tracking. Linux could be more popular than it looks.

Also, they should tell us how much of that increase is due to the Steam Deck. :P

juli,

An adblocker does not hide the os

TheGrandNagus,

No but it could potentially block the tracker that’s used to verify it

Pantherina,

True, btw I am on Windows 10 Chrome 😉

lightnegative, (edited )

Found the closet Arch user

Nix,
@Nix@lemmy.world avatar

Unfortunately, due to the constant willful or untested shenanigans of various website I have set up all my system’s Firefox profiles to spoof by default its user agent (and other JavaScript properties) as Windows 11, x86_64, Firefox LTS (even if I use latest, Aurora or beta). Some blantant recent example: YouTube uses lower quality options on browsers running on Arm-based systems — misreporting as an x86 CPU appears to be a widespread browser fix

Doing so has helped me and many friends/family I switched to a flavor of Linux (mostly Mint, but sometimes LMDE or Ubuntu or specific requirements/demands) avoid numerous dumb problems.

Even on mobile sometimes UX breaking issues creep up.

RedIce25,

How many Steam deck users are looking up porn?

DharmaCurious,
@DharmaCurious@startrek.website avatar

At least one!

fiercekitten,

I hope you dock it first or you’re going to end up with a sprained wrist and a sticky deck.

DharmaCurious,
@DharmaCurious@startrek.website avatar

… Don’t kink shame me

0ops,

New-to-me technology never feels broken in and truly “mine” until that first wack

Phoenix3875,

Is it comfortable to use with a single hand? Asking for a friend.

Darorad,

Nah, it’s pretty heavy

lazynooblet,
@lazynooblet@lazysoci.al avatar

They meant the steam deck

MajorHavoc,

I missed the “PornHub” in the corner at first. Maybe I won’t share this with colleagues…

Johanno,

So what we can see is that Linux user watch 31% more porn?

m_r_butts,

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  • MajorHavoc,

    Agreed. PornHub is probably a pretty solid representation of all web traffic. --Todo: insert obvious joke here–.

    s_s,
    @s_s@lemmy.one avatar

    Porn sites have been at the forefront of nearly all online content innovation.

    MajorHavoc,

    That is true.

    whodatdair,

    Dozens of us! Dozens!

    sturlabragason,

    That’s my go to comment for most posts here 🥲

    ramble81,

    I hate when people say “oh we had 100% growth!” Ignoring the fact they went from 4 to 8 clients. Meanwhile the one that only shows 0.5% growth considers 8 people a rounding error.

    There’s liars, damn liars and statisticians.

    ISMETA,

    Relevant xkcd: xkcd.com/1102/

    FaeDrifter,

    I hate when people respond to a post with a little anecdote that is completely irrelevant to the original post.

    ramble81,

    I’ll feed the troll… it’s very relevant with the bottom part of the graphic. It’s touting that it’s got the biggest increase of traffic change at ~32%, however overall it still only has a 3.2% share. That ties in exactly what what I’m stating and the xkcd that was posted too. There was nothing anecdotal or that was irrelevant in my post.

    FaeDrifter,

    Ignoring the fact they went from 4 to 8 clients.

    You think the 3.2% is on the order of single digits of machines? You think 3.2% market share is 8 people?

    Obviously you don’t. It’s 10s of thousands of machines and you exaggerated the actual situation so far it no longer made any sense.

    Vorticity, (edited )

    Okay, so here’s some more easily interpreted numbers. In addition to having the largest change in traffic share relative to its previous share, Linux actually had the largest change in actual traffic share. It was just BARELY above Mac OS. If more significant digits were allowed here, Linux rose 0.0085 while Mac OS rose 0.0082.

    OS 2023 Share 2022 Share Share Change
    Windows 0.632 0.647 -0.015
    Mac OS 0.292 0.284 0.008
    Linux 0.036 0.027 0.009
    Chrome Book 0.029 0.026 0.003
    Other 0.011 Unknown* 0.005*

    2022 percentages computed as:

    
    <span style="color:#323232;">share_2022 </span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:#a71d5d;">= </span><span style="color:#323232;">share_2023 </span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:#a71d5d;">/ </span><span style="color:#323232;">( </span><span style="color:#0086b3;">1 </span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:#a71d5d;">+ </span><span style="color:#323232;">relative_percent_change )
    </span>
    

    and percent change computed as:

    
    <span style="color:#323232;">absolute_percent_change = share_2023 - share_2022
    </span>
    
    • The relative percent change for “other” is not reported in the graphic. There is a remainder of 0.005 in the Share Change which is, presumably, attributable to change in the “other” category.

    Last year’s results

    I just found last year’s results. It looks like my math bears out, though it appears that they rounded differently.

    Notably, last year’s changes were very different.

    OS 2022 Share 2021 Share Share Change
    Windows 0.647 0.646 0.001
    Mac OS 0.284 0.273 0.011
    Linux 0.028 0.028 0.000**
    Chrome Book 0.025 0.025 0.000**
    Other 0.011 Unknown*** 0.015***

    ** Linux and Chrome Book’s absolute change was less than 0.0005.

    *** As with 2023, the percentage change for “other” is not reported in the graphic. There is a remainder of 0.012 in the Share Change which is, presumably, attributable to change in the “other” category. This seems large, though, given that the total traffic share for “other” is only 0.016. That would imply a change from 0.001 to 0.012. Looking at the 2021 numbers this doesn’t appear to be correct.

    PropaGandalf,
    @PropaGandalf@lemmy.world avatar

    I’m doing my part!

    joeyv120,

    🫡

    chiliedogg, (edited )

    Is it that Linux is getting popular, or that most people don’t buy new computers anymore now that their phone does everything they used it for, so it’s only the enthusiasts still buying?

    themoken,

    That’s an interesting thought. I’ve wondered this about Chrome’s market share in browsers too. How much of it is just that so much traffic is now from phones where, even if you have another browser installed, apps open links in embedded Chrome web views.

    camelbeard, (edited )

    Do we really want to be bigger anyway? I kind of like where Linux as a desktop isn’t really big enough for all the scammers and malware makers to care.

    (And I know it’s huge for servers and malware also targets that, but they are usually maintained by professionals, not your parents that would probably run every shell script they are offered as help)

    If Linux would become the biggest desktop os you are going to find so much more bad advice whenever searching for help online. I wonder if the nice people we have now are really ready for when the terrible people invade the community.

    Murdoc,

    Perhaps a little lesd nice for those of us already using linux, but definitely better for the majority of people for getting less scammed by big corps. But one plus for us would be better support for apps and games that are still mostly or exclusively on other OSes.

    mynamesnotrick,

    So many distros, getting bigger overall with maybe one popular linux distro doesnt have the issue when there are so alternatives.

    Cannacheques,

    Yeah kind of partially agree but not entirely sure what to say man. I’ve had my windows machine and my Linux box hacked in the past, didn’t do much besides ruin my ability to do my homework and general productivity, so I can’t say much.

    I would prefer there to be more actual meaningful stuff out there for there to be hacked and or made different but a lot of the time almost all complex systems compound into or towards static failure, just look at the USA with being a military hegemony like Sparta or China slowly running out of people to sell junk to, the big oil companies slowly trying to micromanage the shift to renewables, people that believe in conformity, confucianism and “the myth of stability” ironically usually slow down all of societies progress rather than supporting an actual stable diffusion of change

    CosmicCleric, (edited )
    @CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

    Do we really want to be bigger anyway?

    YES. It needs more market share to influence companies financially to make products for it.

    It’s truly starting to make inroads recently, but it still has a ways to go.

    I kind of like where Linux as a desktop isn’t really big enough for all the scammers and malware makers to care.

    It’s also not big enough for gaming companies to truly care, unfortunately.

    Darorad,

    Thankfully valve does, linux gaming’s gotten to a really great state in the last few years.

    SapphironZA,

    Year of the Steamdeck. Praise Gaben!

    vexikron, (edited )
    banneryear1868,

    .2 to 3.6%

    itshappening.gif

    DragonTypeWyvern,

    Literally all Steam Decks

    Praise Gaben

    laurelraven,

    That is what we like to call a “gateway drug”, first they try out an Android, then “just a taste” of Steam Deck, and next thing you know they’re installing arch btw on their grandparents’ computers

    platypus_plumba,

    Next thing you know they are looking at packages compile in Gentoo on a Friday night.

    lightnegative,

    Next thing Gentoo is too easy so they spend a week setting up Linux From Scratch

    Luky3000,

    Linux is cumming my friends. 🥳

    ExLisper,

    Nah, it was all me. All of it.

    Secret300,

    Just found another PC in the dump and installed Linux on it. That makes 1,984

    SanndyTheManndy,

    Unless the number of GNU/Linux maintainers also matches the growing userbase, we’re heading towards a world of pain.

    Devs overrun by unhelpful bug reports, scammers and malware abound, forums stretched beyond capacity by the exact same queries.

    If PC Linux can be monetized, it will be.

    loaExMachina,

    2024 will be the year of the GNU/Linux desktop!

    Johanno,

    As will be every year after that

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