onlinepersona,

I’m actually curious what BSD provides in comparison to Linux. What does it add, do better, or worse?

The only thing I know is that they introduced some stuff way before linux did, but that’s simply due to the age. BSD jails for example have been around for a long time. Buy beyond that, it was never apparent to me why linux took off and BSD didn’t.

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Trollception,

Yea I don’t use Linux much but both my router and nas are running BSD. Also I found out the PS5 runs BSD. Guessing the benefits are a stable OS as my router/nas often have uptime in the months with my NAS once running over a year without being restarted.

0x4E4F,
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No, it’s because BSD has a permissive license, unlike Linux. You have to release source if you change the source, which is not what BSD is about. BSD says “here’s the source, do whatever you want with it”.

redcalcium,

ZFS is stable as fuck there. Perfect for running a file server.

0x4E4F, (edited )
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

BTRFS is there as well in the past few years or so.

namingthingsiseasy,

I would say the biggest advantage is that OpenBSD is a very security-focused distribution, in a way that I don’t think any Linux-based distro has adopted.

The other advantage is ZFS. 10-20 years ago, there was no equivalent, and btrfs was in its infancy. These days, btrfs has proven that it is pretty stable and resilient. There might still be some advantages of ZFS over btrfs, but I haven’t used either one at all, so I can’t really be sure.

Outside of that, the BSDs are basically just different distros. Back in the 90s, when there was a lot more diversity in Unix, a lot of people just started out with *BSD because there was no clear choice at the time. People just like to use what they are more comfortable with - but most new users pick Linux over BSD these days, and a lot of people who started out on BSD have assimilated onto Linux.

Still, diversity is a good, nice thing, especially with the advent of systemd. So I’m glad we still have the BSDs around, even if I disagree with their stance toward the GPL.

cyberpunk007,

Also zfs on Linux has been a thing for a while now

0x4E4F,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

Still, now I’d use BTRFS over ZFS any time.

0x4E4F,
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There might still be some advantages of ZFS over btrfs, but I haven’t used either one at all, so I can’t really be sure.

Curently, there are none. In fact, BTRFS has outperformed ZFS in every aspect in the past few years, including filesystem growth (when changing drives, put in bigger ones, something you could never do with ZFS).

Outside of that, the BSDs are basically just different distros. Back in the 90s, when there was a lot more diversity in Unix, a lot of people just started out with *BSD because there was no clear choice at the time. People just like to use what they are more comfortable with - but most new users pick Linux over BSD these days, and a lot of people who started out on BSD have assimilated onto Linux.

The main reason is more drivers and software. Sure, it might be fun compiling from source when you’re young, but at the end of the day, when you wanna get work done, you really can’t tell your customer (or boss) “look, I really can’t deal with this right now, I’m building FF from source”. Also, one of the main reasons why Gentoo and LFS have a fairly small user base.

Still, diversity is a good, nice thing, especially with the advent of systemd. So I’m glad we still have the BSDs around, even if I disagree with their stance toward the GPL.

There are distros that don’t use systemd, Void being the most prominent of them all (mainly because of the number of packages it has in it’s repo).

cyberpunk007,

Bsd is a complete package and tested as such. All the software and everything. It’s like windows, when it’s released you install it and you get wordpad, edge, calculator etc. Bsd is the same that way. Linux is just a kernel, with the distributions bolting on the gnu software. I know it sounds kinda the same but it’s not.

Also the license. With Linux I think you need to cite it’s use and you can’t charge for something build with it (of course there’s exceptions, like packages you create do not need to be for example), but bsd license is the most permissive. You can charge a customer for it and dress it up however you want.

No systemd.

There’s some other stuff too

joonazan,

You don’t need to cite, you need to provide source code. The point of GPL is to allow the user to inspect and modify the software. You can even sell it as long as you provide the modified source code under the same license.

onlinepersona,

Thanks, that’s the best explanation I’ve gotten so far 👍

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0x4E4F, (edited )
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You get to write your own drivers from scratch, so you know for sure no one is spying on you 👍.

Linux took off because, one, it wasn’t backed up by an institution or a company, just one guy doing weird stuff with his computer, and two, because of the license. People don’t like investing time in something that others might use for free in their commercial products. And not only that, but they’re not bound by law to release the source for that. And this is the reasson why every printer out there runs a BSD variant, not Linux.

possiblylinux127,

This is a old meme

ImplyingImplications,

You can tell because it suggests Linux isn’t for gamers but Valve has its own game console that runs on Linux. It’d be pretty stupid if a game console couldn’t run games.

RIP_Cheems,
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What is hoodie?

tpihkal,

You would choose no.

RIP_Cheems,
@RIP_Cheems@lemmy.world avatar

But what is it?

RIP_Cheems,
@RIP_Cheems@lemmy.world avatar

But what is it?

emergencyfood,

Stereotypical h4X0r wear.

Kolanaki,
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Hoodie with ears and thigh high socks; the only thing h4X0rs wear.

emergencyfood,

You forgot the fedoras and capes. And of course OG h4X0rs wore XXL t-shirts and ancient jeans, and lived on honey coffee, locusts cigarettes and stuff that got stuck between their toes.

AVincentInSpace, (edited )

People who wear cat ear headphones and thigh high socks are actually respectable. When OP says “hoodie” they mean “script kiddie who feels like a badass for changing the color of his terminal”.

Note the lack of use of gender neutral pronouns. I do not believe that any woman or enby, trans or otherwise, would stoop so low.

NickwithaC,
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Hoodie OS. Used by people who type one line into a terminal to bring down the government and say “I’m in” when they extract data from databases.

bartolomeo,
@bartolomeo@suppo.fi avatar

Lmao that was a fun ride

Steamymoomilk,

My comment is still compiling from source

0x4E4F,
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lol 🤣🤣🤣

FrankTheHealer,

Alma Linux being on here gave me a chuckle. Pour one out for a real one.

eskuero,
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The menace of those who run kali as a daily driver for the lulz

febra,

I’m on NixOS where do I fit

Scribbd,

On the hidden “Do you believe that everything should be defined as code?”

akincisor,

Do you “see the matrix”?

0x4E4F,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

That’s a new concept… should be somewhere between Linux admin and Hoodie IMO… or maybe before Linux admin.

Grass,

This one didn’t age quite as poorly as some of the others. I have gotten to the point of generally preferring Linux gaming now though. Bsd is still a bit lacking for my general computing but opnsense on my router is one of those ‘where has this been all my life?’ things.

0x4E4F,
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OpnSense wasn’t quite there yet a few years ago. Now, it’s golden 👍! Don’t know why people still prefer pfSense over OpnSense, it’s so much easier to set up and maintain.

Grass,

I didn’t try pfsense but it sounded like opnsense suited me better and I have had no reason to change so far. It has also made managing my self host stuff so much easier but a lot of it is pending being redone with more future proofing.

BambiDiego,

Are you rich?

Are you bad with money?

SquirtleHermit,

Just because you’re bad with money does not mean you can afford an Apple product.

teegus,

Just because you cant afford an apple product doesn’t mean you won’t buy one (on credit)

SquirtleHermit,

… Damn, good point…

ObsidianZed,

Pay only 29.95/month! (for 100 months)

M137,
@M137@lemmy.world avatar

Worth every penny IMO, MacOS is super nice and so is the hardware.

(I don’t have a mac, wish I did though).

Cue the apple hater replies, this will be fun.

AlfredEinstein,

Mac was fantastic in the '80s

Mac was great in the "90s

Mac was good in the '00s

Linux Mint was fantastic in the '10s

LSNLDN,

Ok but it’s the 20s and I want to run apps that are only on new chip MacOS computers and i don’t have one what do I do, saaave me linukz

dustyData,

ARM compatibility is still shit. All actually useful desktop apps are still primarily x86-64, the compatibility layer Rosetta is hit or miss, everything is proprietary and expensive, and Apple decided the Pro model should only have 8GB for a shit ton of money. Apple is overpriced trash in the '20s.

lolcatnip,

I think this is the first time I’ve seen someone refer to the 2020s as the 20s. I’ve kind of been waiting for it.

cm0002,

(I don’t have a mac, wish I did though).

Worth every penny IMO, MacOS is super nice and so is the hardware.

Putting all my legitimate Apple/MacOS concerns/arguments aside, how can you declare a product as “Worth every penny” when you yourself have not used it for an extensive period of time? Attempted to integrate it into your workflow?

0x4E4F,
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I seriously doubt any community out there gets as much comments as Linux Memes 🤣🤣🤣. You just drop a pic and everyone is like “uuu, I gotta comment on that, can’t resist 😬” 🤣🤣🤣.

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    WTF man, I was just trying to make a funny comment 🤦.

    readyno,
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    🏆 here we all chipped in and got you this participation trophy.

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    Well, at least you’re honest.

    Da_Boom,
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    This flowchart is wrong.

    If I follow this reasoning, I should be running windows. I am not running windows, Ergo, either it is incorrect or I am incorrect. And I refuse to believe I’m incorrect.

    CannedTuna,
    DannyBoy,
    BeardedGingerWonder,

    It’s pronounced gpeg

    alp,

    No, I’m sure it’s pronounced as jpej.

    AVincentInSpace,
    victorz,

    Love the “A KNOW”

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    By “gamer” they probably don’t mean someone who plays games. They probably mean someone who think 69 is a funny number and saying the n word is cool

    xia,

    Wherefore art thou Fedora? Et tu Rocky?

    casual_turtle_stew_enjoyer,

    Alma

    That’s a funny way to spell Rocky

    Veneroso,

    All roads lead to Hannah Montana Linux.

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    I’m waiting for a Mariah Carey Christmass Edition Linux.

    AngryCommieKender, (edited )

    https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/5fcb67b0-4472-4395-8238-aaf82bc92272.webm

    I may have spent too many years in the service industry

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