possiblylinux127,

EFI is so much better****

avidamoeba,
@avidamoeba@lemmy.ca avatar

Not sure if serious.

db2,

GPT you mean. Linux can boot in a non-EFI machine that has GPT disk partitions… Windows can’t because it’s dumb.

Max_P,
@Max_P@lemmy.max-p.me avatar

Yes but by doing so you’re using the same principles as MBR boot. There’s still this coveted boot sector Windows will attempt to take back every time.

What’s nice about EFI in particular is that the motherboard loads the file from the ESP, and can load multiple of them and add them to its boot menu. Depending on the motherboard, even browse the ESP and manually go execute a .efi from it.

Which in turn makes it a lot less likely to have bootloader fuckups because you basically press F12 and pick GRUB/sd-boot and you’re back in. Previously the only fix would be boot USB and reinstall syslinux/GRUB.

taladar,

I just had a bug on both of my EFI computers where they wouldn’t boot any more and a grub-install fixed it, apparently the regular update processes do not update the version on the ESP for some reason and my assumption is that it became incompatible with the modules in /boot

Adding an EFI Boot Entry for netboot.xyz after it happened on the first one really helped fix the second one though.

possiblylinux127,

No I mean EFI. It is a much simpler than MBR.

frokie,

I’m not having an AI boot my computer!

droans,

GPT is a partitioning table. EFI is a bootloader firmware interface.

db2,

MBR is also a partitioning table.

0x4E4F,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

Not in my experience… and apparently a lot of people that dual boot 🤷.

My main boot partitions are far from the 2TB threshold of MBR, I’m not that rich.

c0mbatbag3l,
@c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah cause that’s the only benefit 🙄

0x4E4F,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

I can’t see any other really 🤷.

pryre,

Start using and efistub and never worry about boot loaders again!

vox,
@vox@sopuli.xyz avatar

systemd-boot is a reasonable compromise. i like it

pryre,

The reality is that a bootloader will seemingly always be needed to account for difficult BIOS’ and legacy setups (I’m looking at you, dual-booted Ubuntu 20.04).

BeigeAgenda,
@BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca avatar

Naah I just disable secure boot altogether, then you don’t have to worry about all that TPM security theatre.

Vash63,

You don’t need secure boot to use EFI. It’s better all around regardless of SB.

BeigeAgenda,
@BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca avatar

Fair enough I don’t miss the old BIOS.

0x4E4F, (edited )
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

Yeah, but Windows 11 needs it.

Can be disabled though. Easiest way - use Rufus when burning the USB.

Fun fact, you can also install Win11 in MBR mode, no UEFI needed whatsoever.

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